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Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« on: September 23, 2008, 07:52:33 AM »
Some great rope line video from Joe Biden's recent Ohio swing, where he was asked by an anti-pollution campaigner about clean coal -- a controversial approach in Democratic circles for which Obama has voiced support, particularly during the Kentucky primary.

Biden's apparent answer: He supports clean coal for China, but not for the United States.

"No coal plants here in America," he said. "Build them, if they're going to build them, over there. Make them clean."

"We’re not supporting clean coal," he said of himself and Obama. They do, on paper, support clean coal.

The answer seems to play into John McCain's case that Obama has been saying "no" to new sources of energy.

In the primary, Biden opposed Obama's push for clean coal, which is seen as a way of maintaining or expanding America's coal-burning power plants -- many of which are in rust belt swing states.

"I don't think there's much of a role for clean coal in energy independence, but I do think there's a significant role for clean coal in the bigger picture of climate change," he told Grist last year. "Clean-coal technology is not the route to go in the United States, because we have other, cleaner alternatives," he said, but added that America should push for a "fundamental change in technology" to clean up China's plants.

Biden also was not shy on his own clean energy credentials.

"The first guy to introduce a global warming bill was me 22 years ago. The first guy to support solar energy was me 20 years ago," he said, apparently referring to the 1986 Global Climate Protection.

Think Progress has some more context, and Jake Tapper reports that Obama this morning rebuked Biden on a separate issue, his quick opposition to a federal bailout.

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2011, 01:54:11 PM »
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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2011, 01:56:59 PM »
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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2011, 05:54:01 PM »
POSITIVE!

You really are a piece of trash if you are cheering on thousands losing their jobs due to obamas insanity.   Seriously how can cheer on thouands being tossed out of work? 

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2011, 05:58:24 PM »
You really are a piece of trash if you are cheering on thousands losing their jobs due to obamas insanity.   Seriously how can cheer on thouands being tossed out of work? 

And you are a liar and a tool,  So what?

Coal must go, and it won't be painless.  It should be spread over the next 20-30 years.  And anyone who made a career out of coal made a serious mistake in foresight. 

They should all go into business for themselves like you.   ::)

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2011, 05:59:39 PM »
And you are a liar and a tool,  So what?

Coal must go, and it won't be painless.  It should be spread over the next 20-30 years.  And anyone who made a career out of coal made a serious mistake in foresight. 

They should all go into business for themselves like you.   ::)

Glad you support thousands losing their jobs.    Fucking sick.   

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2011, 06:01:46 PM »
Glad you support thousands losing their jobs.    Fucking sick.   

I support getting our head of the stone age ass. 

But at least i don't have to LIE about it weak sauce.   ::)


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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2011, 06:04:34 PM »
I support getting our head of the stone age ass. 

But at least i don't have to LIE about it weak sauce.   ::)



I used his own statements and James quoted it.    Btw I hope Obama targets your profession for bankruptcy and you suffer the same fate you wish on thousands of people working now. 

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2011, 06:13:58 PM »
I used his own statements and James quoted it.    Btw I hope Obama targets your profession for bankruptcy and you suffer the same fate you wish on thousands of people working now. 

Really?  Obama said:  " I promise to bankrupt the coal industry"?

Show me!

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look its just called progress.  Coal is from the 1800's   ::)

I feel bad for anyone who loses their jobs, but they had to know at some point its going to get phased out. 

Just like GM right 33333?

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2011, 06:21:41 PM »
Really?   Says who?  you?   Obama? 

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2011, 06:25:21 PM »
Really?   Says who?  you?   Obama? 

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2011, 06:26:41 PM »


look its just called progress.  Coal is from the 1800's   ::)

I feel bad for anyone who loses their jobs, but they had to know at some point its going to get phased out.  



That's an awesome leftist talking point. Get phased out and replaced with what, bright spot? This is the inherent problem with the Green Brigade. They think you can just cut consumption of products like oil by 20% and nothing will change as a result.

I'm starting to think everyone from California is a fucking retard.

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2011, 06:27:08 PM »
Did he promise to bankrupt GM too 33333?   ::)

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2011, 06:29:17 PM »
Did he promise to bankrupt GM too 33333?   ::)

Huh?   Watch the damn clip .    If you cant understand his own words and actions - you really are beyond help.   

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2011, 06:29:56 PM »
That's an awesome leftist talking point. Get phased out and replaced with what, bright spot? This is the inherent problem with the Green Brigade. They think you can just cut consumption of products like oil by 20% and nothing will change as a result.

I'm starting to think everyone from California is a fucking retard.

Its a fucking fact.  It's not a dam talking point.   ::)

Coal is ancient form of energy that IS outdated.  

This phasing out of coal shouldn't have to happen all at once.  20 to 30 years.  It needs to replaced with Nuclear energy.  

Bright spot?  hahahaha

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2011, 06:31:17 PM »
Its a fucking fact.  It's not a dam talking point.   ::)

Coal is ancient form of energy that IS outdated.  

This phasing out of coal shouldn't have to happen all at once.  20 to 30 years.  It needs to replaced with Nuclear energy.  

Bright spot?  hahahaha

You sound like you're raging. I'll ask again, though. Phased out with WHAT?

Derp, let's just cut our energy consumption by 20% and not replace it with anything viable. That'll work. Really.

And California wonders why it's $25 billion in the hole. How's that whole "Let's go green" shit working out for you? Disastrously, that's for sure.

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2011, 06:31:26 PM »
Huh?   Watch the damn clip .    If you cant understand his own words and actions - you really are beyond help.   

I don't need to 33333.  YOU CLAIMED HE PROMISED TO BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY.  

Now fucking man up.

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2011, 06:33:36 PM »
You sound like you're raging. I'll ask again, though. Phased out with WHAT?

Derp, let's just cut our energy consumption by 20% and not replace it with anything viable. That'll work. Really.

And California wonders why it's $25 billion in the hole. How's that whole "Let's go green" shit working out for you? Disastrously, that's for sure.

I am not a green shit supporter, dude.  So stop trying to clump me up with them.  California is in trouble because of alot of things including what you just said.

our energy consumption doesn't need to decrease, the energy needs to be replaced with nuclear energy. 


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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2011, 06:34:35 PM »
I am not a green shit supporter, dude.  So stop trying to clump me up with them.  California is in trouble because of alot of things including what you just said.

our energy consumption doesn't need to decrease, the energy needs to be replaced with nuclear energy. 



Nuclear energy? Good luck hammering that through after Japan.

Didn't you know it's evil? Just ask the Germans who are closing all their nuke plants by 2020.  ::)

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2011, 06:35:04 PM »
I don't need to 33333.  YOU CLAIMED HE PROMISED TO BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY.  

Now fucking man up.

Yes as well as SKYROCKET OUR ENERGY PRICES! 

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2011, 06:37:18 PM »
Nuclear energy? Good luck hammering that through after Japan.

Didn't you know it's evil? Just ask the Germans who are closing all their nuke plants by 2020.  ::)

I know, it was a big blow to nuclear energy.  No one has seem to question why the (normally very careful) idiots put a nuclear facility next to the ocean in a tsunami area.  

But bottom line, all that other shit, hydro, solar, wind, will not replace it.  Coal is bad, old and evil.  

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2011, 06:38:48 PM »
Yes as well as SKYROCKET OUR ENERGY PRICES! 

that's not even accurately what he said.   ::)

Even if he just said that, that is far away from saying:  I promise to bankrupt the coal industry. 

do you need to go back to school or something?

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2011, 07:01:13 PM »
that's not even accurately what he said.   ::)

Even if he just said that, that is far away from saying:  I promise to bankrupt the coal industry. 

do you need to go back to school or something?

"Under my plan electric rates will necessarily skyrocket, they will pass along those costs to consumers".