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Re: Wtf. Why isn't this massive news.
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2015, 05:27:07 PM »
Holy shit, what happened, some sort of magnetic thing?

Looks like some kind of cable was on the ground and got sucked up into the spinning brushes of that street sweeper

Either that or magic.  I kind of hope it was magic
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« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2015, 04:34:06 AM »
you cant make money by making people live longer without putting them on permanent medication

health is business. nobody is interested in a one cure all pill that only has to be taken once.

guess why nobody cares about actually HEALING diabetes.
todays medicine is interested in fighting SYMPTOMS, not CAUSES. people are kept sick on purpose: money.

No they are not, they are in the process of curing type 1 diabetes, it's not something you could have cured without advanced tech like genetic therapies. In type 1, it's autoimmunity, meaning your body attacks the islet B cells of the pancreas, these produce insulin, it would be like asking them to cure castration.

You would need testosterone or a set of new nuts.

Type 2 is person induced, aka the cure exists, it's called being a active human. Type 2 is generally due to insulin resistance (could be iatrogenic, drug induced as in antipsychotics) in which there is insulin, but your fat shitty muscles won't take it up, they resist work like the person resists work. It's a fat lazy person problem.

So now that you know a little more, how would you suggest they cure type 2? by prescribing table push aways? how would they cure type 1? if not
supplying insulin? pancreatic transplant? that won't go very well most often. The antibodies to the beta cells will still be present, they will attack the shits again, so that won't work. There are many other avenues but they are also not going to really work out, gene therapy and stem cells offer the best hope, clone the cells or use pluripotent stem cells (this means they can differentiate into any tissue) which can create new B cells, the underlying auto-immunity would need to be addressed as there are often other systemic issues.

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« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2015, 04:36:38 AM »
WOO look into the sirtuin system and hormesis. both viable imo.

Metformin may still help also, I would argue that it does, most agents that reduce glycation do extend life as AGE's kill people over time. Would it reduce all cause mortality? no, but glucose related damage, yes.. would I take it for this reason, fuck no, it does have sides, i have seen people shit themselves hardcore on it.

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Re: Wtf. Why isn't this massive news.
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2015, 04:43:31 AM »
The autism is strong in this thread.
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Re: Wtf. Why isn't this massive news.
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2015, 04:46:27 AM »
But would you want to live forever? I'll take the gamble on the death.

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« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2015, 04:48:13 AM »
WOO look into the sirtuin system and hormesis. both viable imo.

Metformin may still help also, I would argue that it does, most agents that reduce glycation do extend life as AGE's kill people over time. Would it reduce all cause mortality? no, but glucose related damage, yes.. would I take it for this reason, fuck no, it does have sides, i have seen people shit themselves hardcore on it.


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« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2015, 05:18:16 AM »
WOO look into the sirtuin system and hormesis. both viable imo.

Metformin may still help also, I would argue that it does, most agents that reduce glycation do extend life as AGE's kill people over time. Would it reduce all cause mortality? no, but glucose related damage, yes.. would I take it for this reason, fuck no, it does have sides, i have seen people shit themselves hardcore on it.

How does Metformin work and how is it different from insulin?

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« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2015, 05:20:44 AM »

Read my second link

I'm just trolling

It's all bullshit

It's not though, human life span has been increasing, ipso fucking facto you can increase life span. So while taking metformin may not make you live to 120, it may help, there is reason to believe it. Other animals, some marine species don't age, it's very fucking possible and observed all the time.

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« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2015, 05:48:26 AM »
It's not though, human life span has been increasing, ipso fucking facto you can increase life span. So while taking metformin may not make you live to 120, it may help, there is reason to believe it. Other animals, some marine species don't age, it's very fucking possible and observed all the time.



Us pop life span peaked 10 years ago

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« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2015, 08:13:20 AM »


Us pop life span peaked 10 years ago

your right, it will never go up we hit the limit, it did increase but we hit the upper limits now.

we will be cloning our own organs in the future, need a new liver? here is your brand new liver, no immune shit to worry about, it's you.

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« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2015, 08:35:32 AM »
How does Metformin work and how is it different from insulin?

Metformin really only works in type 2, it increases insulin sensitivity, so it helps with the uptake of glucose in the muscles, if your pancreas is done, you need insulin. In type 2 there is often enough insulin, the muscles simply won't acknowledge it, they are resistant. Type 1 insulin is out, so your muscle won't ever get the message in the first place, your body thinks you are staving despite your blood glucose being high.


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« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2015, 09:08:10 AM »
your right, it will never go up we hit the limit, it did increase but we hit the upper limits now.

we will be cloning our own organs in the future, need a new liver? here is your brand new liver, no immune shit to worry about, it's you.


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« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2015, 04:27:28 PM »
A first human trial with gene therapies for age reversal has already started actually:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/3ocsbi/ama_my_name_is_liz_parrish_ceo_of_bioviva_the/

By 2016 they are determined to show first evidence of physical age reversal on a human. May turn out true, may not, but if positive - anyone invested in this company may become a millionaire overnight I guess..
Just merely the fact that this is happening is pretty damn amazing.

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Re: Wtf. Why isn't this massive news.
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2015, 04:31:13 PM »

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« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2015, 04:32:17 PM »
A first human trial with gene therapies for age reversal has already started actually:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/3ocsbi/ama_my_name_is_liz_parrish_ceo_of_bioviva_the/

By 2016 they are determined to show first evidence of physical age reversal on a human. May turn out true, may not, but if positive - anyone invested in this company may become a millionaire overnight I guess..
Just merely the fact that this is happening is pretty damn amazing.

I read the reddit thread, reeks of a cash grab

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Re: Wtf. Why isn't this massive news.
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2015, 04:38:31 PM »
It's only really rich sociopaths who want to live forever. Imagine being part of the 1% and believing in an afterlife knowing the amount of people you steamrolled along the way to get there?

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« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2015, 12:53:29 AM »
It's only really rich sociopaths who want to live forever. Imagine being part of the 1% and believing in an afterlife knowing the amount of people you steamrolled along the way to get there?

Purpose of life is to.... be alive. But you are right actualy, life in itself is pretty damn sothiopatic activity.