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Re: Wtf. Why isn't this massive news.
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2015, 08:40:12 PM »
that's about twice as long as I wanna live.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2015, 09:15:08 PM »
that's about twice as long as I wanna live.

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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2015, 09:47:03 PM »
Wes is on the trial version of this drug. Trials started in 1980....

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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2015, 10:12:38 PM »
Wes is on the trial version of this drug. Trials started in 1980....
I`m holding up quite well too I might add!   ;)

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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2015, 11:10:13 PM »
Will devastate social security and welfare even further. Elite will not let this get out!

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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2015, 11:17:26 PM »
Because the only ones who care forgot about it?



Sorry.  I met a guy with oldsheimers.  Perfectly fine until he stood up and said he'd like to go home... while in his own house.  It's shitty and rough on his son.

Anyway, if you'll excuse me, I gotta go post on Getbig now. 

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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2015, 11:42:18 PM »
Will devastate social security and welfare even further. Elite will not let this get out!
They will just move retirement age up to 100

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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2015, 01:13:07 AM »
I've been saying this for the past ten years: it's going to happen, and a lot sooner than many could think. Maybe not with this drug, but with another, or a few... it is pretty obvious to these who are up to date with the current state of regenerative sciences.
 The fears of welfare are pretty much overstated, to say the least. Keep in mind that for a bussiness it is a lot more beneficial to have a buyer/user for a loooong time to come, instead of raising up a new one from the start again and again. Keep in mind another thing - the birth rate will decrease even more, logically - there's not muh point to reproduce for a genome when it can sustain it's survival for a long time.
 Eventually it will be the medicine science that will save white race from extinction. Like always has been - whites outsmart other races, regardless of numbers.

p.s. - this isn't massive news because stuff like this already became a "naturally understandable" thing, like - well yeah, that's how it should be. The big breaking nes in a whole world will be when they will manage to keep a mice alive and young for an indefinite time and most of you reading this will be able to witess that in your lifetime, have no doubt about it.

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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2015, 02:21:56 AM »
Because the only ones who care forgot about it?



Sorry.  I met a guy with oldsheimers.  Perfectly fine until he stood up and said he'd like to go home... while in his own house.  It's shitty and rough on his son.

Anyway, if you'll excuse me, I gotta go post on Getbig now. 

I see what you did there.
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2015, 02:25:37 AM »
It's that nice man from New Mexico.

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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2015, 02:30:21 AM »
They tested it on roundworm C. I guess that's good news for roundworms.

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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2015, 02:47:42 AM »
They tested it on roundworm C. I guess that's good news for roundworms.

LOL!
Their celebration party is keeping me awake...

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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2015, 03:07:11 AM »
I read nothing about telomeres in that article. Their shortening is one of the main factors to aging.

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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2015, 03:08:21 AM »
you cant make money by making people live longer without putting them on permanent medication

health is business. nobody is interested in a one cure all pill that only has to be taken once.

guess why nobody cares about actually HEALING diabetes.
todays medicine is interested in fighting SYMPTOMS, not CAUSES. people are kept sick on purpose: money.

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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2015, 03:25:55 AM »
you cant make money by making people live longer without putting them on permanent medication

health is business. nobody is interested in a one cure all pill that only has to be taken once.

guess why nobody cares about actually HEALING diabetes.
todays medicine is interested in fighting SYMPTOMS, not CAUSES. people are kept sick on purpose: money.

Well said.
People will fall for any bullshit. Why should the average Joe be allowed to live longer if not for his tiny self to serve the "health" machine.
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2015, 05:32:57 AM »
that's about twice as long as I wanna live.


agree 100%

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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2015, 05:57:13 AM »
http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com//health/no-more-alzheimers-worlds-first-anti-aging-drug-could-let-you-live-more-than-120-years-in-good-health




Because it's really old news, metformin has had this aspect of it's mechanism known for a while.

The problem with this, and perhaps the researchers are unaware is that using alzheimers models and glucolytic agents is a slippery slope, alzheimers may be type 3 diabetes, which makes this study really had to generalize. Starvation extends life span longer then metformin in all trials conducted for example.



Eur Neuropsychopharmacol. 2014 Dec;24(12):1954-60. doi: 10.1016/j.euroneuro.2014.06.008. Epub 2014 Jun 28.
Type 3 diabetes is sporadic Alzheimer׳s disease: mini-review.
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Abstract
Alzheimer׳s disease (AD) is the most common cause of dementia in North America. Growing evidence supports the concept that AD is a metabolic disease mediated by impairments in brain insulin responsiveness, glucose utilization, and energy metabolism, which lead to increased oxidative stress, inflammation, and worsening of insulin resistance. In addition, metabolic derangements directly contribute to the structural, functional, molecular, and biochemical abnormalities that characterize AD, including neuronal loss, synaptic disconnection, tau hyperphosphorylation, and amyloid-beta accumulation. Because the fundamental abnormalities in AD represent effects of brain insulin resistance and deficiency, and the molecular and biochemical consequences overlap with Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes, we suggest the term "Type 3 diabetes" to account for the underlying abnormalities associated with AD-type neurodegeneration. In light of the rapid increases in sporadic AD prevalence rates and vastly expanded use of nitrites and nitrates in foods and agricultural products over the past 30-40 years, the potential role of nitrosamine exposures as mediators of Type 3 diabetes is discussed.

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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2015, 06:44:02 AM »
Because it's really old news, metformin has had this aspect of it's mechanism known for a while.

The problem with this, and perhaps the researchers are unaware is that using alzheimers models and glucolytic agents is a slippery slope, alzheimers may be type 3 diabetes, which makes this study really had to generalize. Starvation extends life span longer then metformin in all trials conducted for example.



Eur Neuropsychopharmacol. 2014 Dec;24(12):1954-60. doi: 10.1016/j.euroneuro.2014.06.008. Epub 2014 Jun 28.
Type 3 diabetes is sporadic Alzheimer׳s disease: mini-review.
de la Monte SM1.
Author information

Abstract
Alzheimer׳s disease (AD) is the most common cause of dementia in North America. Growing evidence supports the concept that AD is a metabolic disease mediated by impairments in brain insulin responsiveness, glucose utilization, and energy metabolism, which lead to increased oxidative stress, inflammation, and worsening of insulin resistance. In addition, metabolic derangements directly contribute to the structural, functional, molecular, and biochemical abnormalities that characterize AD, including neuronal loss, synaptic disconnection, tau hyperphosphorylation, and amyloid-beta accumulation. Because the fundamental abnormalities in AD represent effects of brain insulin resistance and deficiency, and the molecular and biochemical consequences overlap with Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes, we suggest the term "Type 3 diabetes" to account for the underlying abnormalities associated with AD-type neurodegeneration. In light of the rapid increases in sporadic AD prevalence rates and vastly expanded use of nitrites and nitrates in foods and agricultural products over the past 30-40 years, the potential role of nitrosamine exposures as mediators of Type 3 diabetes is discussed.

CRAN extends lifespan but is a pain in the ass and for many people would mean a reduced quality of life.

There's something like 40 million people that take metmorfin, I think if there was any significant longevity effect it would have been noticed by now.

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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2015, 07:26:45 AM »
CRAN extends lifespan but is a pain in the ass and for many people would mean a reduced quality of life.

There's something like 40 million people that take metmorfin, I think if there was any significant longevity effect it would have been noticed by now.

Not necessarily as the drug is only prescribed to people with pathology, one that lessens life span, so if they have normal lifespan versus say insulin therapy, that is evidence. The real question is, will it extend a healthy humans lifespan.

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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2015, 07:30:27 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2015, 01:55:37 PM »
What was this thread about again?

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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2015, 02:00:40 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2015, 02:12:58 PM »
you cant make money by making people live longer without putting them on permanent medication

health is business. nobody is interested in a one cure all pill that only has to be taken once.

guess why nobody cares about actually HEALING diabetes.
todays medicine is interested in fighting SYMPTOMS, not CAUSES. people are kept sick on purpose: money.


Right, because eating like a normal biped doesn't cure this shit.

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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2015, 05:17:58 PM »


Holy shit, what happened, some sort of magnetic thing?