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Re: Ochsner will make unvaccinated spouses of employees pay $200 per month
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2021, 03:36:23 PM »
So is Slavery....... does that make it right?

I don't recall saying anything about whether I thought the vaccine mandates were right or wrong. I simply pointed out that this is not the first time the U.S. has mandated vaccines.

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Re: Ochsner will make unvaccinated spouses of employees pay $200 per month
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2021, 04:30:48 PM »
I don't recall saying anything about whether I thought the vaccine mandates were right or wrong. I simply pointed out that this is not the first time the U.S. has mandated vaccines.

but by someone says "its not the first time" aka "precedent" doesn't mean its something that should be pushed again just because there's a history of something being done

all I'm sayin'

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Re: Ochsner will make unvaccinated spouses of employees pay $200 per month
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2021, 10:30:28 AM »
Vaccination Mandates Are an American Tradition. So Is the Backlash. The roots of U.S. vaccine mandates predate both the U.S. and vaccines.



There is no American tradition of imposing a vaccine mandate in circumstances like this where the vaccine is new and essentially still experimental because we do not know the long-term side-effects and the vaccine doesn't give you immunity from either catching or spreading the disease. 

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Re: Ochsner will make unvaccinated spouses of employees pay $200 per month
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2021, 10:31:28 AM »
That's actually a good idea since second hand smoke has been shown to cause lung cancer. My stepdad didn't smoke cigarettes and my mom was a chain smoker. My stepdad died from lung cancer. My mom died from emphysema. If a family member smokes and you don't, insist that do it outside or at least in the garage.

No it isn't.  Your employer shouldn't dictate what your family members do in their private lives.  That's crazy. 

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Re: Ochsner will make unvaccinated spouses of employees pay $200 per month
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2021, 10:49:17 AM »
No it isn't.  Your employer shouldn't dictate what your family members do in their private lives.  That's crazy.

Pay attention bro

No one is making anyone do anything

They can CHOOSE to get the vaccine or they can CHOOSE to pay $200 more per month or they can CHOOSE find new insurance

I guess they could just charge EVERYONE more but that doesn't seem fair does it bro?

Did you happen to read the story you posted?

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"The reality is the cost of treating COVID-19, particularly for patients requiring intensive inpatient care, is expensive, and we spent more than $9 million on COVID care for those who are covered on our health plans over the last year," said Thomas in an emailed statement.

It's becoming more common for employers to make unvaccinated people on employer-sponsored insurance plans pay more to cover the high potential cost of COVID care.

Delta Air Lines, for instance, announced it would raise health insurance premiums by $200 per month for unvaccinated employees starting Nov. 1. In a memo to employees, Delta CEO Ed Bastian said that COVID-19 hospitalizations cost the company an average of $50,000 per case.


Thomas said the surcharge is part of an effort to keep health premiums low for employees. Unvaccinated patients accounted for 90% of COVID hospitalizations in Ochsner facilities.

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Re: Ochsner will make unvaccinated spouses of employees pay $200 per month
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2021, 11:02:22 AM »
but by someone says "its not the first time" aka "precedent" doesn't mean its something that should be pushed again just because there's a history of something being done

all I'm sayin'

Of course. Wars have happened multiple times, most would agree not to do it again if it is at all avoidable. What was interesting about the article to me was that it showed not only were vaccines mandated, many people objected to the mandate, just as they do now. There are times when we can learn something from past experiences even if it is to not repeat it.