Are the US the stupid capital of the world ??

[IroNat]

Trenton is fairly down the list, and wouldn't you know the best performing schools are in bergen\Monmouth countries
https://patch.com/new-jersey/across-nj/nj-schools-spend-18k-student-average-how-much-your-kid-gets

Those numbers are incorrect.

They don't have the highest spending per student which is my point.

The reason they are high performing is because the parents are highly educated, very competitive, and stress academics.

Go here: https://www.bestplaces.net/find/zip.aspx?st=nj

[Thin Lizzy]

Top 10 countries Best at Reading

    1-South Korea with an OECD score of 539
    2-Finland with an OECD score of 536
    3-Canada with an OECD score of 524
    4-New Zealand with an OECD score of 521
    5-Japan with an OECD score of 520
    6-Australia with an OECD score of 515
    7-Netherlands with an OECD score of 508
    8-Belgium with an OECD score of 506
    9-Norway with an OECD score of 503
   10- Estonia with an OECD score of 501

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Top 10 countries Best at Mathematics

    1-South Korea with an OECD score of 546
    2-Finland with an OECD score of 541
    3-Switzerland with an OECD score of 534
    4-Japan with an OECD score of 529
    5-Canada with an OECD score of 527
    6-Netherlands with an OECD score of 526
    7-New Zealand with an OECD score of 526
    8-Belgium with an OECD score of 515
    9-Australia with an OECD score of 514
    10-Germany with an OECD score of 513

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Top 10 countries Best at Science

   1- Finland with an OECD score of 554
    2-Japan with an OECD score of 539
    3-South Korea with an OECD score of 538
    4-New Zealand with an OECD score of 532
    5-Canada with an OECD score of 529
    6-Estonia with an OECD score of 528
    7-Australia with an OECD score of 527
    8-Netherlands with an OECD score of 522
    9-Germany with an OECD score of 520
    10-Switzerland with an OECD score of 517

The question to ask is how American students from those top countries perform. I’d bet Americans of Korean descent do very well.

[IroNat]

The question to ask is how American students from those top countries perform. I’d bet Americans of Korean descent do very well.

They do because the parents are very intense about education and really stress it.

[residue]

They do because the parents are very intense about education and really stress it.

Oh for sure it's the most important thing, growing up it was understood that we'd all get postgraduate degrees, not doing so wasn't an option. But i was fortunate in that i had 2 parents and my mom was also getting her doctorate so we had an example. Some people have a bad dice roll, a lot of people get their mom and she has to work 3 jobs to barely make ends meet, those kids need help

[IroNat]

Oh for sure it's the most important thing, growing up it was understood that we'd all get postgraduate degrees, not doing so wasn't an option. But i was fortunate in that i had 2 parents and my mom was also getting her doctorate so we had an example. Some people have a bad dice roll, a lot of people get their mom and she has to work 3 jobs to barely make ends meet, those kids need help

Yes, I agree that parental influence is key.

[ThisisOverload]

Yes, I agree that parental influence is key.

Education starts at home.

In my state we have the second worst public education system in the United States.

They just gave all the teachers 35% raises and more funds for schools.

Test scores went down.

It's not as easy as "more money". It's a parental problem.

When i lived in Germany i knew plenty of stupid people and thug life people.

It's just more celebrated in America.

Most countries don't make a spectacle of these people like we do here.

The stupid capitol of the world would be somewhere in South America or Africa.

[Humble Narcissist]

Americas top students can compete with anyone.

These other countries are not diverse in makeup.

The U.S. has people from all cultures and races.  Some are really dumb and bring down the score.

If the US was all white we'd be a giant Switzerland.

[Van_Bilderass]

What do you think about the claim that Asians are discriminated against in top University admissions. I think there's a lawsuit against A Harvard going on? And Jews are overrepresented.

I don't really know anything about academics but I read the claim that if you get into say Harvard you can't fail  they will not allow it. So if you have rich or powerful parents donating you can essentially buy a degree. Is this true?

[Tapeworm]

If you can't get near a 4.0 in US schools then you're not paying attention or you're an idiot. Read the assignment, remember what you read, you're gonna get an A. It's a cakewalk for anyone of average intellect like me.

This is bullshit to talk about it like it's some complicated affair and we have to align all these disparate elements to make the magic happen. Gimme a break. You guys remember school. There's nothing academically challenging going on.

It's basically a problem of disengagement. The kid is half assing the assignments while on tiktok and the parents can't be bothered. You want people more engaged? Make them pay for the school. Write that check every semester. Next thing you know everyone is a tiger mom.

[IroNat]

What do you think about the claim that Asians are discriminated against in top University admissions. I think there's a lawsuit against A Harvard going on? And Jews are overrepresented.

I don't really know anything about academics but I read the claim that if you get into say Harvard you can't fail  they will not allow it. So if you have rich or powerful parents donating you can essentially buy a degree. Is this true?

Absolutely true.  Indians also.

[Humble Narcissist]

What do you think about the claim that Asians are discriminated against in top University admissions. I think there's a lawsuit against A Harvard going on? And Jews are overrepresented.

I don't really know anything about academics but I read the claim that if you get into say Harvard you can't fail  they will not allow it. So if you have rich or powerful parents donating you can essentially buy a degree. Is this true?

Yes, I'm surprised no one has sued against legacy students.