Are the US the stupid capital of the world ??

[affeman]

'Are' is appropriate. States.

You're one smart dude, def not from Trumpland

[affeman]

 

[ProudVirgin69]

American education system lags behind other countries, no argument there

[IroNat]

American public school districts vary greatly in quality.

The quality of the school district is a large factor in where people buy homes.

More expensive property areas usually have better public schools.

Parental involvement is directly related to school quality.

The amount spent per student does not correlate to better schools.

Some of the highest cost per student districts are the worst.

[Thin Lizzy]

American education system lags behind other countries, no argument there

We’ve just had a massive technological revolution and most of it has taken place in the US, yet  the educational system hasn’t improved a bit. Why is that?

[Thin Lizzy]

American public school districts vary greatly in quality.

The quality of the school district is a large factor in where people buy homes.

More expensive property areas usually have better public schools.

Parental involvement is directly related to school quality.

The amount spent per student does not correlate to better schools.

Some of the highest cost per student districts are the worst.

Racist post reported.😂

[residue]

We’ve just had a massive technological revolution and most of it has taken place in the US, yet  the educational system hasn’t improved a bit. Why is that?

Because it's the same at it always is, the top ___% get the resources, i think it's only 5-6% of the gdp that goes towards education in the states. Meanwhile countries are spending 10-15 elsewhere, that's why. It's great for some things, american top level colleges are the best in the world, the rest of them are high school level elsewhere

[Thin Lizzy]

Because it's the same at it always is, the top ___% get the resources, i think it's only 5-6% of the gdp that goes towards education in the states. Meanwhile countries are spending 10-15 elsewhere, that's why. It's great for some things, american top level colleges are the best in the world, the rest of them are high school level elsewhere

Like clockwork, the money excuse:

NY school spending again led US, hitting all-time high in 2020-21 - Empire Center for Public Policy

Public elementary and secondary school spending in New York rose to $26,571 per pupil in 2020-21, according to the latest Census Bureau data—setting a new record high even as pupil performance was falling amid the disruption of in-person learning due to pandemic restrictions.

New York’s K-12 spending once again topped that of all states and the District of Columbia—fully 85 percent above the national average of $14,347 per pupil. In dollars-per-pupil terms,

https://www.empirecenter.org/publications/ny-school-spending-again-led-us-hitting-all-time-in-2020-21/

[Tapeworm]

American public school districts vary greatly in quality.

The quality of the school district is a large factor in where people buy homes.

More expensive property areas usually have better public schools.

Parental involvement is directly related to school quality.

The amount spent per student does not correlate to better schools.

Some of the highest cost per student districts are the worst.

It would be interesting to see exactly how the money is being spent and what expectations those who allocate it have year after year.

Martyrmade podcast just put one up that dug into the conflict between jewish educators and militant blacks in early 70s New York if you can spare 6 hours.

Imo public funding of schools should be abolished and parents pay to send their kid anywhere they choose, homeschool, whatever. It's none of the government's business and shouldn't be the taxpayer's burden.

[residue]

Like clockwork, the money excuse:

NY school spending again led US, hitting all-time high in 2020-21 - Empire Center for Public Policy

Public elementary and secondary school spending in New York rose to $26,571 per pupil in 2020-21, according to the latest Census Bureau data—setting a new record high even as pupil performance was falling amid the disruption of in-person learning due to pandemic restrictions.

New York’s K-12 spending once again topped that of all states and the District of Columbia—fully 85 percent above the national average of $14,347 per pupil. In dollars-per-pupil terms,

https://www.empirecenter.org/publications/ny-school-spending-again-led-us-hitting-all-time-in-2020-21/

The dollar is worth less, course there's more money being spent.. it's worth less. 

[Thin Lizzy]

It would be interesting to see exactly how the money is being spent and what expectations those who allocate it have year after year.

Martyrmade podcast just put one up that dug into the conflict between jewish educators and militant blacks in early 70s New York if you can spare 6 hours.

Imo public funding of schools should be abolished and parents pay to send their kid anywhere they choose, homeschool, whatever. It's none of the government's business and shouldn't be the taxpayer's burden.

In NYC, you have bloated, corrupt bureaucracies The Board of Ed and The Teacher’s Union which are laughably inefficient.

Rudy Giuliani tried to get rid of it back in the day but even he failed.

[Dokey111]

'Are' is appropriate. States.

no.  it doesn't say states, it says US.   so Is is appropriate. "THE US" .

[Griffith]

My impression when visiting is that many had very little general knowledge of the world outside their country.

But I wouldn't say they are 'stupid'.

[Thin Lizzy]

My impression when visiting is that many had very little general knowledge of the world outside their country.

But I wouldn't say are 'stupid'.

I’ve noticed the same thing with Europeans and Canadians when they speak about the United States. They’re completely clueless. People generally concern themselves with what affects them most directly.

[residue]

I’ve noticed the same thing with Europeans and Canadians when they speak about the United States. They’re completely clueless. People generally concern themselves with what affects them most directly.

not at all, if you count math, reading and science skills, america might not even crack top 40 in the world

[Griffith]

not at all, if you count math, reading and science skills, america might not even crack top 40 in the world

But still have enough highly skilled people and education facilities to be leaders in science and technology.

[mops]

I’ve noticed the same thing with Europeans and Canadians when they speak about the United States.

This is basically how Europeans imagine the U.S.

[residue]

But still have enough highly skilled people and education facilities to be leaders in science and technology.

you mean asians

[ProudVirgin69]

We’ve just had a massive technological revolution and most of it has taken place in the US, yet  the educational system hasn’t improved a bit. Why is that?

It’s a good question.  I think the disparity between school districts is at least partly to blame.  Deriving funding from local property taxes means that wealthy areas have more money for schools than poorer areas, and I don’t think that’s conducive to educating our nation’s youth as a whole.

It’s been a while since I checked but last I saw, the US was near the top of the test score rankings up until about middle school.  From that point onwards, we progressively fall in the rankings, landing in the 40s by the final year of high school.  Not sure what the cause is, but it’s an interesting phenomenon to be sure.

Personally, I think we should take some of our massive military budget and invest it in our schools and our nations youth.  Seems like a better use of the money to me.

[IroNat]

The dollar is worth less, course there's more money being spent.. it's worth less. 

No.

Trenton, NJ has the highest cost per student in NJ and they are the worst performing school district.

Throwing money around does nothing if the students and parents don't care about education.

[IroNat]

It’s a good question.  I think the disparity between school districts is at least partly to blame.  Deriving funding from local property taxes means that wealthy areas have more money for schools than poorer areas, and I don’t think that’s conducive to educating our nation’s youth as a whole.

It’s been a while since I checked but last I saw, the US was near the top of the test score rankings up until about middle school.  From that point onwards, we progressively fall in the rankings, landing in the 40s by the final year of high school.  Not sure what the cause is, but it’s an interesting phenomenon to be sure.

Personally, I think we should take some of our massive military budget and invest it in our schools and our nations youth.  Seems like a better use of the money to me.

No again.

The worst districts have the highest funding per student.

The students and parents in these districts for the most part don't care about education.

The family unit is broken.  Single mothers and absent fathers. 

[SF1900]

Top 10 countries Best at Reading

    1-South Korea with an OECD score of 539
    2-Finland with an OECD score of 536
    3-Canada with an OECD score of 524
    4-New Zealand with an OECD score of 521
    5-Japan with an OECD score of 520
    6-Australia with an OECD score of 515
    7-Netherlands with an OECD score of 508
    8-Belgium with an OECD score of 506
    9-Norway with an OECD score of 503
   10- Estonia with an OECD score of 501

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Top 10 countries Best at Mathematics

    1-South Korea with an OECD score of 546
    2-Finland with an OECD score of 541
    3-Switzerland with an OECD score of 534
    4-Japan with an OECD score of 529
    5-Canada with an OECD score of 527
    6-Netherlands with an OECD score of 526
    7-New Zealand with an OECD score of 526
    8-Belgium with an OECD score of 515
    9-Australia with an OECD score of 514
    10-Germany with an OECD score of 513

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Top 10 countries Best at Science

   1- Finland with an OECD score of 554
    2-Japan with an OECD score of 539
    3-South Korea with an OECD score of 538
    4-New Zealand with an OECD score of 532
    5-Canada with an OECD score of 529
    6-Estonia with an OECD score of 528
    7-Australia with an OECD score of 527
    8-Netherlands with an OECD score of 522
    9-Germany with an OECD score of 520
    10-Switzerland with an OECD score of 517

[IroNat]

Americas top students can compete with anyone.

These other countries are not diverse in makeup.

The U.S. has people from all cultures and races.  Some are really dumb and bring down the score.

[residue]

No.

Trenton, NJ has the highest cost per student in NJ and they are the worst performing school district.

Throwing money around does nothing if the students and parents don't care about education.

Trenton is fairly down the list, and wouldn't you know the best performing schools are in bergen\Monmouth countries
https://patch.com/new-jersey/across-nj/nj-schools-spend-18k-student-average-how-much-your-kid-gets

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