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Re: How hard would it be
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2022, 08:29:49 AM »
I don't understand why Putin is even doing this, does he want Ukraine to become russia? Will Ukraine lose its name and identity?
I can't believe this is even being allowed to happen in this day and age.

I've seen that as well.  Texts to parents saying as such.  Never thought they were going to kill innocents.  That tank veering to drive over that car purposely on a civilian is a war crime and evil as fuck.  Luckily, I heard the person(s) lived somehow.  Crazy if true.  I really don't know what to believe at this point other than Putin is fucking crazy, and it was never Trump that did shenanigans with him.....it was the Clintons, Bidens, and Obama(see hot mic footage on YT for that part)

As for the last 2 questions of your post...I don't know the answer to either one, but my guess is no to the first and I don't get it either to the second.  From what I've seen they have gone after civilian sites more than anything.  Only thing I've seen that was strategic was the nuclear site and the satellite tower.  Really makes no sense.  This is genocide in my opinion

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Re: How hard would it be
« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2022, 10:12:28 AM »
I don't understand why Putin is even doing this, does he want Ukraine to become russia? Will Ukraine lose its name and identity?
I can't believe this is even being allowed to happen in this day and age.

Hench what do you mean by you cant believe its being allowed to happen? No one wants to start WWIII, that's why no one will declare a no fly zone over Ukraine.

People in power dont play by idealistic rules.

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Re: How hard would it be
« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2022, 05:35:58 PM »
Hench what do you mean by you cant believe its being allowed to happen? No one wants to start WWIII, that's why no one will declare a no fly zone over Ukraine.






People in power dont play by idealistic rules.




Without a no fly zone Ukraine is doomed.  It looks like the lessons of history cannot be learned.  See the same kind of waffling and appeasement that lead to WWII spinning out of control.  Putin does not care about sanctions or his people.  He is an egomanical piece of shit who is driven by a dillusional sense of himself trying to carve out his place in history.

With America's lead a no fly zone can be enforced.  American air power is superior to Soviet air power. If you think Putin will use nukes I think it's a bluff.  The west should call it.

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Re: How hard would it be
« Reply #53 on: March 04, 2022, 05:50:13 PM »



Without a no fly zone Ukraine is doomed.  It looks like the lessons of history cannot be learned.  See the same kind of waffling and appeasement that lead to WWII spinning out of control.  Putin does not care about sanctions or his people.  He is an egomanical piece of shit who is driven by a dillusional sense of himself trying to carve out his place in history.

With America's lead a no fly zone can be enforced.  American air power is superior to Soviet air power. If you think Putin will use nukes I think it's a bluff.  The west should call it.

Putin going after the nuclear power plant shows that he has no regard for people his people included. You can’t reason with this type of person.

I’m concerned we, the US, will get involved after all the damage has been done.

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Re: How hard would it be
« Reply #54 on: March 05, 2022, 02:31:15 AM »
I don't understand why Putin is even doing this, does he want Ukraine to become russia? Will Ukraine lose its name and identity?
I can't believe this is even being allowed to happen in this day and age.
He doesn't want Ukraine to join NATO and have his enemies all around him. NATO broke the original agreement by accepting Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland and Romania into their ranks.

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Re: How hard would it be
« Reply #55 on: March 05, 2022, 04:38:03 AM »



Without a no fly zone Ukraine is doomed.  It looks like the lessons of history cannot be learned.  See the same kind of waffling and appeasement that lead to WWII spinning out of control.  Putin does not care about sanctions or his people.  He is an egomanical piece of shit who is driven by a dillusional sense of himself trying to carve out his place in history.

With America's lead a no fly zone can be enforced.  American air power is superior to Soviet air power. If you think Putin will use nukes I think it's a bluff.  The west should call it.

I don't think Putin wants WW3. I think the Russians have legitimate concerns about NATO encircling them and we were probably building up Ukraine behind the scenes and he put a stop to it. I don't think he starts invading the rest of Europe. I don't think Ukraine is like the Sudetenland was for Germany and that they just keep going.

I agree that if we wanted to enforce a no fly zone we could probably do so, at great cost. But I don't think we should. If Europe is that worried about Russia they should have their own air forces enforce the zone.

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Re: How hard would it be
« Reply #56 on: March 05, 2022, 07:52:11 PM »
There's a short, UK House of Commons report if you're into the politics of this stuff:

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201617/cmselect/cmfaff/119/119.pdf

When you read of people 'blending in', it's not just walking around in local clothes. Guys can sometimes wear Hollywood-level costumes and makeup, lol. You would never know.


I am, especially with this.  I have it opened in another tab, but it's 53 fucking pages and I have the attention span of a gnat so it will take me a couple of days.  It's almost 10 pm here so I'm not starting tonight as I am about to go to bed.  Just wanted to reply to your post, and say thanks for the link.

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Re: How hard would it be
« Reply #57 on: March 05, 2022, 07:54:54 PM »
He doesn't want Ukraine to join NATO and have his enemies all around him. NATO broke the original agreement by accepting Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland and Romania into their ranks.

This.

We (US) allowed this to happen and now we are acting like we can impose sanctions to change what’s going on. We are Clueless.

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Re: How hard would it be
« Reply #58 on: March 05, 2022, 08:14:36 PM »
He means "You're Death", you will become Death Incarnate, The GrimReaper.

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Re: How hard would it be
« Reply #59 on: March 06, 2022, 10:48:45 AM »

I am, especially with this.  I have it opened in another tab, but it's 53 fucking pages and I have the attention span of a gnat so it will take me a couple of days.  It's almost 10 pm here so I'm not starting tonight as I am about to go to bed.  Just wanted to reply to your post, and say thanks for the link.

No problem, man. This news article is an accurate write-up on the military missions and a lot shorter than the HoC report. It's pretty cool.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16573516

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Re: How hard would it be
« Reply #60 on: March 07, 2022, 09:04:04 AM »
Who wins in a fight Putin or Biden?

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Re: How hard would it be
« Reply #61 on: March 07, 2022, 09:14:08 AM »
Who wins in a fight Putin or Biden?

They’re both on the same side. Seems we’re funding both sides of this war. Biden is just as dirty as Putin….I keep telling people, whatever the left accused Trump of doing, they’re doing the exact same thing 10 fold


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Re: How hard would it be
« Reply #62 on: March 07, 2022, 09:16:10 AM »
I hate corruption

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Re: How hard would it be
« Reply #63 on: March 07, 2022, 10:38:59 AM »
I hate corruption

 Brutal if true.