Steve Kuclo deadlifting 635 for three reps.

[texasRUSH]

yeah i noticed that i tuck my body in somehow when i tried it that way..so i went to hooking it instead...looks like benedikt pics it up that way too...


either way...anything over 600 is nutz!

[voiceofreason]

These threads make me laugh.  Someone could post a clip of Steve deadlifting the Titanic for 3 reps and people's insecurities would still get the best of them, focusing on whether or not he is "all drugs" and how much he bounced he reps, its funny to me. 

[natural al]

These threads make me laugh.  Someone could post a clip of Steve deadlifting the Titanic for 3 reps and people's insecurities would still get the best of them, focusing on whether or not he is "all drugs" and how much he bounced he reps, its funny to me. 

I agree...it's crazy.

[legbreaker]

All pros train differently and guess what?  They all build world class physiques.

That is what I mean by Dante "selling" his program.  Not literally selling it - but making it out to be any different than anything else.  You can get enough resistance off a bowflex to build your physique to its max potential.  That's my point: specific training techniques mean little, if anything at all.

Also, who cares about Steve's form?  Really now - the dude is a powerhouse.  How many pros can even lift that weight?!  Johnnie O. Jackson only did 675 for three in his training video and he is considered one of the strongest pros out there - to some, he is considered THE strongest pro.

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/johnnieojacksonallamericanworkout.html

Lastly - what's wrong with rinsing your beef?  Are the naysayers saying it hurts in some manner?

i didn't see where anyone said rinsing beef is bad......did someone in this thread?

[sarcasm]

All pros train differently and guess what?  They all build world class physiques.

That is what I mean by Dante "selling" his program.  Not literally selling it - but making it out to be any different than anything else.  You can get enough resistance off a bowflex to build your physique to its max potential.  That's my point: specific training techniques mean little, if anything at all.

Also, who cares about Steve's form?  Really now - the dude is a powerhouse.  How many pros can even lift that weight?!  Johnnie O. Jackson only did 675 for three in his training video and he is considered one of the strongest pros out there - to some, he is considered THE strongest pro.

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/johnnieojacksonallamericanworkout.html

Lastly - what's wrong with rinsing your beef?  Are the naysayers saying it hurts in some manner?

bluto's sister rinses my beef every night.

[ILLICON]

this thread is funny. those guys look better than all of the haters on this thread..... funny what bouncing heavy ass weights does for your body.

ps: who cares if they are using straps really,,,,,,,,,,,,,they aren't PL and dont want to be. plus their forearms are bigger than your upper arms...

[rocket]

What weirds me out about these people posting about "haters" in this thread is that there are hardly any "haters" in this thread atall.

[natural al]

Remember, the definition of "hater" is different depending on the board.  On mayhem for instance, a "hater" is defined as someone not kissing ass.  Offering constructive criticism is grounds for being banned.  But guess what?  Steve, trop, etc, will only really pay attention to what is said on HERE.  Because when WE say you're good - you're good.  On mayhem, it just means the person posting it doesn't want to be banned.

I don't post that much on mayhem but I've never gotten that impression....honestly.  I spend more time here so it's not like I'm sticking up for them or anything..is it really that bad?  That's an honest question.

[natural al]

Not really.  I haven't been there for ages.  Maybe it's changed - hopefully I should say.

it's funny cause I hear such bad things about dugdales wife, massive g, people getting banned....I don't know, maybe I just don't go looking for it or maybe I jsu don't notice it but it's not that bad.  I pretty much mind my own business over there and only post once in awhile on the main discussion board and a little on the training board but I really don't see why everyone goes nuts.  Maybe they see something I'm not seeing.  There's people over here that HATE massive g...I don't know him, never pm'd him, I don't think I've ever responded to one of his threads but he does not seem like that big of a dick.  Maybe I'm wrong, I honestly don't know.

[sarcasm]

it's funny cause I hear such bad things about dugdales wife, massive g, people getting banned....I don't know, maybe I just don't go looking for it or maybe I jsu don't notice it but it's not that bad.  I pretty much mind my own business over there and only post once in awhile on the main discussion board and a little on the training board but I really don't see why everyone goes nuts.  Maybe they see something I'm not seeing.  There's people over here that HATE massive g...I don't know him, never pm'd him, I don't think I've ever responded to one of his threads but he does not seem like that big of a dick.  Maybe I'm wrong, I honestly don't know.

it's not that he's that much of an asshole on the board itself but he deletes anything where anyone questions what drugs a pro takes or just questions a pro on anything, then he bans you or gives you the BI tag, on the board itself he can actually be pretty cool sometimes and is very laid back about some things.

[natural al]

it's not that he's that much of an asshole on the board itself but he deletes anything where anyone questions what drugs a pro takes or just questions a pro on anything, then he bans you or gives you the BI tag, on the board itself he can actually be pretty cool sometimes and is very laid back about some things.

don't they have a "chemical forum"?  I've never been in that one but can you ask those questions there?  Maybe he's just trying to keep that stuff away from the general public....again, I don't know, I'm just asking and trying to look at it logically.

[chris_mason]

I had our photog send me a pic from the Olympia.  Here I am at my 40% body fat (per the "guru" TA)!  




This was my 645 lbs raw pull.

The pic was taken by Josh Winsor of Hardcorepowerlifting, LLC.

[alexxx]

I had our photog send me a pic from the Olympia.  Here I am at my 40% body fat (per the "guru" TA)!  




This was my 645 lbs raw pull.

The pic was taken by Josh Winsor of Hardcorepowerlifting, LLC.

Chris! Where did that guy's shoulders go?

[rocket]

Hah, good stuff

Its never an attractive thing to have a pic of someone doing a heavy deadlift.

[legbreaker]

That's very impressive, good for you.  When in a meet do you go over/under?  Wow, that weight would fall through most hands with a over grip. 

[natural al]

I had our photog send me a pic from the Olympia.  Here I am at my 40% body fat (per the "guru" TA)!  




This was my 645 lbs raw pull.

The pic was taken by Josh Winsor of Hardcorepowerlifting, LLC.

I'm not a powerlifter, I worked out with one along time ago for a few days just to get the basics down so I have a question for you and it might be a dumb one, I just popped an ambien.....

How much of a DL is power and how much is technique?  I firmly believe that if people took the time to learn technique they could do better at almost anysport.  I had a hell ofan arm when I played baseball but couldn't pitch cause I didn't know a thing about technique....hell, last summer w/o picking up a baseball in probably 12 years I did one of those "what's your fastball" booths at a picnic and with no windup and no technique I can still hit 65mph on the first pitch.  I wonder what I could have been throwing in High school if I would have taken the time to learn the mechanics.  11 years ago I was pulling 455 for reps at about 180.  I'm betting I could have hit 500 pretty easily if I would have taken the time to learn the technique better.

[alexxx]

I'm not a powerlifter, I worked out with one along time ago for a few days just to get the basics down so I have a question for you and it might be a dumb one, I just popped an ambien.....

How much of a DL is power and how much is technique?  I firmly believe that if people took the time to learn technique they could do better at almost anysport.  I had a hell ofan arm when I played baseball but couldn't pitch cause I didn't know a thing about technique....hell, last summer w/o picking up a baseball in probably 12 years I did one of those "what's your fastball" booths at a picnic and with no windup and no technique I can still hit 65mph on the first pitch.  I wonder what I could have been throwing in High school if I would have taken the time to learn the mechanics.  11 years ago I was pulling 455 for reps at about 180.  I'm betting I could have hit 500 pretty easily if I would have taken the time to learn the technique better.

You are asking the right guy cause obviously he is not a big dude and probably uses 100% technique to lift that easy weight.

[legbreaker]

That lift, like the others on this thread is very impressive.  However, the most impressive thing about it to me is the grip....I would go ahead and say that most people in the gym can not do a 400 pound double over hand(no hook) grip.

[rocket]

That lift, like the others on this thread is very impressive.  However, the most impressive thing about it to me is the grip....I would go ahead and say that most people in the gym can not do a 400 pound double over hand(no hook) grip.

I think low reps people would probably be ok at a double.  A 1-2 rep max grip strength will be a lot higher than what you are capable of for reps.

I get the straps out as soon as I hit 315.  I know people would say that is counterproductive to grip strength but my grip is so far behind my ability to do the lift I can't be bothered wallowing in the depths of small poundages, waiting for something that may never happen (I don't believe my grip will ever parallel my lift potential).

That of course means that when I do deadlift 600 people will discredit the achievement but ah well..  nobody is that impressed with natural lifts except a small percentage of natural lifters themselves anyway.

[The True Adonis]

Chris,

I had you confused with another picture on here.

Sorry, I do apologize.

You are not 40 percent, but in the 20s.


My mistake.

[The True Adonis]

That lift, like the others on this thread is very impressive.  However, the most impressive thing about it to me is the grip....I would go ahead and say that most people in the gym can not do a 400 pound double over hand(no hook) grip.

Yah, I always have used double overhand.

To me, it just feels better.  Its like a groove.

[Jr. Yates]

Yah, I always have used double overhand.

To me, it just feels better.  Its like a groove.

Im the same. double overhand and I can really squeeze the lats together at the top of the movement this way.

[MattT]

Steve has a great physique, i can honestly say i thought he had bigger arms and delts for weighing 260+lbs

[chris_mason]

Chris,

I had you confused with another picture on here.

Sorry, I do apologize.

You are not 40 percent, but in the 20s.


My mistake.

Right.   

[chris_mason]

I'm not a powerlifter, I worked out with one along time ago for a few days just to get the basics down so I have a question for you and it might be a dumb one, I just popped an ambien.....

How much of a DL is power and how much is technique?  I firmly believe that if people took the time to learn technique they could do better at almost anysport.  I had a hell ofan arm when I played baseball but couldn't pitch cause I didn't know a thing about technique....hell, last summer w/o picking up a baseball in probably 12 years I did one of those "what's your fastball" booths at a picnic and with no windup and no technique I can still hit 65mph on the first pitch.  I wonder what I could have been throwing in High school if I would have taken the time to learn the mechanics.  11 years ago I was pulling 455 for reps at about 180.  I'm betting I could have hit 500 pretty easily if I would have taken the time to learn the technique better.

 

The deadlift is one of the least skill driven lifts.  Every lift requires neural acclimation to optimize your ability but the deadlift is definitely low on the skill scale especially when compared to something like a snatch.