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Re: Dutch news piece
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2006, 03:33:36 AM »
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Re: Dutch news piece
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2006, 04:12:32 AM »
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/301006_b_Dutch.htm

I've seen this piece already because i'm Dutch but i have to say that they raise an interesting question: if it wasn't a plane but a missile wich caused the crash in Shanksville, where the fuck are the people who were supposedly on the plane to begin with?
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Re: Dutch news piece
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2006, 06:38:06 AM »
I've seen this piece already because i'm Dutch but i have to say that they raise an interesting question: if it wasn't a plane but a missile wich caused the crash in Shanksville, where the f**k are the people who were supposedly on the plane to begin with?

That is a step we cannot get to yet.  First we have to find out what happened at that scene.  If the OFFICIAL story is a lie (I thinkk many admit there are giant holes in it), getting the people involved under oath and on the stand would lead to the next step, people starting to point fingers.  Then, those with power and responsibility on that day will be forced to answer questions and the location of the plane might become clearer. 

At this point, there is so much information out there which punches holes in the official story, I believe that anyone who completely swallows the official story is either a blindly loyal idiot, or just uneducated.  No offense to those who do... but some people here could be handed a signed and sealed confession from Cheney himself and they'd refuse to even open it.  It feels better to trust what the cable news tells you, and it feels reassuring to mock those whose words bring uncertainty to your life.

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Re: Dutch news piece
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2006, 06:46:44 AM »
That is a step we cannot get to yet.  First we have to find out what happened at that scene.  If the OFFICIAL story is a lie (I thinkk many admit there are giant holes in it), getting the people involved under oath and on the stand would lead to the next step, people starting to point fingers.  Then, those with power and responsibility on that day will be forced to answer questions and the location of the plane might become clearer. 

At this point, there is so much information out there which punches holes in the official story, I believe that anyone who completely swallows the official story is either a blindly loyal idiot, or just uneducated.  No offense to those who do... but some people here could be handed a signed and sealed confession from Cheney himself and they'd refuse to even open it.  It feels better to trust what the cable news tells you, and it feels reassuring to mock those whose words bring uncertainty to your life.

I hear what you are saying and for the most part am agreeing with you but: i think we can get to that step yet.
If it was a missile and not a plain where the hell did those people who where supposed to be on that plain go? They must live somewhere in captivity by the bush government ?
If this is  a cover up i'm sure they are not going to testify in court because they are suppose to be dead in the first place... :-\ You really believe your government killed them all so they could say it was a plane which crashed and there where no survivors?

ps: theres always Guantanamo bay i guess... :-\
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Re: Dutch news piece
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2006, 07:18:25 AM »
I am not saying my govt - I am saying a small group of people in the US who helped the 19 guys on the plane.  Someone had to disarm NORAD that day.  Someone placed bombs in the WTC towers.  WTC7 doesn't fall like that from gravity and fire- scientifically impossible and not even the govt funded NIST will rubber stamp that report.

*IF* we believe that they considered 3000 people in the towers to be acceptable collateral damage, I am sure it would be no problem to make that plane disappear somewhere else.  Also noteworty that day are the media reports that a plane crashed at the Ohio Kentucky border.  These reports were quickly stopped.  But who knows... maybe one or more of the planes had a nice resting place in a field somewhere, perhaps a designated crash zone in the middle of nowhere hick country. 

The responsibility of proof goes on those with the official story.  If they want to tell us a plane hit the pentagon, then show us one of the 80+ camera angles, not some blurry freeze frame with poor quality which shows nothing but a white blur, which very easily could be a missile.  Much like a prosecutor presenting his case to the jury, the onus is on the state to prove their case.

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Re: Dutch news piece
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2006, 07:57:21 AM »
I am not saying my govt - I am saying a small group of people in the US who helped the 19 guys on the plane.  Someone had to disarm NORAD that day.  Someone placed bombs in the WTC towers.  WTC7 doesn't fall like that from gravity and fire- scientifically impossible and not even the govt funded NIST will rubber stamp that report.

*IF* we believe that they considered 3000 people in the towers to be acceptable collateral damage, I am sure it would be no problem to make that plane disappear somewhere else.  Also noteworty that day are the media reports that a plane crashed at the Ohio Kentucky border.  These reports were quickly stopped.  But who knows... maybe one or more of the planes had a nice resting place in a field somewhere, perhaps a designated crash zone in the middle of nowhere hick country. 

The responsibility of proof goes on those with the official story.  If they want to tell us a plane hit the pentagon, then show us one of the 80+ camera angles, not some blurry freeze frame with poor quality which shows nothing but a white blur, which very easily could be a missile.  Much like a prosecutor presenting his case to the jury, the onus is on the state to prove their case.

So now it's a "small group of people" and not the thousands required to carry out this conspiracy?   ::)

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Re: Dutch news piece
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2006, 08:53:51 AM »
So now it's a "small group of people" and not the thousands required to carry out this conspiracy?   ::)

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Overseas specialists were used.

And the *real* conspiracy was the 911 Commission.  Why in the hell no one was questioned on the NORAD standdown, how Guiliani knew WTC7 was coming down when it was still full of people and there were no fires, or why we haven't seen any real pentagon footage - THAT was the real conspiracy.

Each day, the group of people you belong to - the blind believers of everything the bush admin says - grows smaller.