Author Topic: Top 5 That Own Jay Cutler... (Read 5028 times)

ThaRealist · « **on:** December 23, 2006, 03:56:05 AM »

Nothing against Jay Cutler, but these guys have all the potential in the world to beat him when:

1.) Victor Martinez - He will own Jay if he gets his conditioning to 100% hands down.
2.) Phil Heath - When this rookie puts on just a little bit more size he has Mr.Olympia written all over him.
3.) Dennis Wolf - He has great symmetry and small waist.This is another rookie that when he puts on more size he will be the new blond white boy the IFBB will be going after.
4.) Ronnie Coleman - This man owns anyone on stage and has proven this for years. If Big Ron can bring his injuries up and get his conditioning right for next year than no one holds a candle to him.
5.) Dexter Jackson - Great symmetry, great conditioning, awsome density...If he can improve himself any further and not let his stomach extend at all he can own Jay.

You guys give your best Top 5.........

JasonH · « **Reply #1 on:** December 23, 2006, 04:03:26 AM »

Well I agree with none of that.

Jay Cutler is Mr Olympia for a reason - because he is the best bodybuilder in the world right now.

Ronnie won't beat him again - too old
Phil Heath won't beat him - too small.
Dexter won't beat him - same reason as Heath
Dennis Wolf - not even top ten Olympia material - don't know how the hell you can eevn consider him.
Martinez - possibly, but not for several years down the line.

TheAnimal · « **Reply #2 on:** December 23, 2006, 04:05:51 AM »

Quote from: BigJ on December 23, 2006, 04:03:26 AM

Dennis Wolf - not even top ten Olympia material - don't know how the hell you can eevn consider him.

Yes, you are right his waist isn't big enough if he can work on thickening up his stomach he would be in good stead.

ThaRealist · « **Reply #3 on:** December 23, 2006, 04:07:43 AM »

Quote from: BigJ on December 23, 2006, 04:03:26 AM

Well I agree with none of that.

Jay Cutler is Mr Olympia for a reason - because he is the best bodybuilder in the world right now.

Ronnie won't beat him again - too old
Phil Heath won't beat him - too small.
Dexter won't beat him - same reason as Heath
Dennis Wolf - not even top ten Olympia material - don't know how the hell you can eevn consider him.
Martinez - possibly, but not for several years down the line.

I am not saying that they should have beat him this year read into it more...Jay won because he was the best and I don't argue that, but these other guys have the ability to beat him...Jay is not by far an over-powering Mr. Olympia the way the kings of the past were...By the way, Martinez has the ability to beat Jay right now if he gets his conditioning perfect...Watch out for Dennis Wolf too alot of people are not giving him much credit, but time will tell and this year will be a big factor on what comes to hold for Jay....

denvmuscle · « **Reply #4 on:** December 23, 2006, 04:15:08 AM »

Quote from: ThaRealist on December 23, 2006, 03:56:05 AM

Nothing against Jay Cutler, but these guys have all the potential in the world to beat him when:

1.) Victor Martinez - He will own Jay if he gets his conditioning to 100% hands down.
2.) Phil Heath - When this rookie puts on just a little bit more size he has Mr.Olympia written all over him.
3.) Dennis Wolf - He has great symmetry and small waist.This is another rookie that when he puts on more size he will be the new blond white boy the IFBB will be going after.
4.) Ronnie Coleman - This man owns anyone on stage and has proven this for years. If Big Ron can bring his injuries up and get his conditioning right for next year than no one holds a candle to him.
5.) Dexter Jackson - Great symmetry, great conditioning, awsome density...If he can improve himself any further and not let his stomach extend at all he can own Jay.

You guys give your best Top 5.........

If, If If.... that's alot of "ifs", man.

ThaRealist · « **Reply #5 on:** December 23, 2006, 04:20:54 AM »

Quote from: denvmuscle on December 23, 2006, 04:15:08 AM

If, If If.... that's alot of "ifs", man.

Its called speculation....I am proving the point that Jay has alot to worry about as reigning Mr. Olympia...Much more than the last 3 Mr. Olympia's....

Below Me · « **Reply #6 on:** December 23, 2006, 04:25:38 AM »

Most every pro has the "ability" to beat Jay or anyone on the right night and circumstance. All this has been said about Jay in the past.

bic_staedtler · « **Reply #7 on:** December 23, 2006, 04:35:43 AM »

Martinez may be a runner, but only if he gets a little bigger and can make those calves look a lil less small in comparison to Jay's.

The thing about the O is that it doesn't matter what type of body you have, so long as it's bigger and more ripped than the champ. The Martinez of today with his lines and such won't be the Martinez of tomorrow should he develop a physique that will give him the My O title.

He'll look like Jay with a different head on his shoulders.

Scimowser · « **Reply #8 on:** December 23, 2006, 04:38:25 AM »

Vic and Phil CAN beat him, but only if he lets himself slip and they come in at their absolute best. Jays name alone carries alot of weight with the judges, and he has all the tools needed to be the best - hence why hes Mr O. Coleman is finished IMO, his peak is passedand hes on his way out. Wolf - are you kidding me? He'll be gone in 2 years the way things are going, and Dex has lost his advantage over the field as he hasnt changed his physique.

Im a massive Jay fan, and im honest enough to admit he has what can be seen as major flaws. But overall he brings a slightly better package than the rest.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 23, 2006, 04:48:48 AM »

vic phil ruhl shelestov shabunia wolf coleman dexter on and on

the shadow · « **Reply #10 on:** December 23, 2006, 05:11:08 AM »

Quote from: Scimowser on December 23, 2006, 04:38:25 AM

Vic and Phil CAN beat him, but only if he lets himself slip and they come in at their absolute best. Jays name alone carries alot of weight with the judges, and he has all the tools needed to be the best - hence why hes Mr O. Coleman is finished IMO, his peak is passedand hes on his way out. Wolf - are you kidding me? He'll be gone in 2 years the way things are going, and Dex has lost his advantage over the field as he hasnt changed his physique.

Im a massive Jay fan, and im honest enough to admit he has what can be seen as major flaws. But overall he brings a slightly better package than the rest.

absolutely right..but i won't count coleman out.ronnie has to do alot of work to improve himself and by the looks of his injuries its gonna be really tough..

kyomu · « **Reply #11 on:** December 23, 2006, 05:32:24 AM »

Quote from: Scimowser on December 23, 2006, 04:38:25 AM

Vic and Phil CAN beat him, but only if he lets himself slip and they come in at their absolute best. Jays name alone carries alot of weight with the judges, and he has all the tools needed to be the best - hence why hes Mr O. Coleman is finished IMO, his peak is passedand hes on his way out. Wolf - are you kidding me? He'll be gone in 2 years the way things are going, and Dex has lost his advantage over the field as he hasnt changed his physique.

Im a massive Jay fan, and im honest enough to admit he has what can be seen as major flaws. But overall he brings a slightly better package than the rest.

i agree with you except Wolf. He is the only man i saw who had good mass with extremely small waist.Normaly,if you have good legs,your waist grow. Believe me,its true. But,i think this guys waist will remain the same even he gets 20lbs heavier.
So,when he gets enough mass, i believe he is gonna be a mr.o.

Saxon · « **Reply #12 on:** December 23, 2006, 05:51:42 AM »

Any man whose arms and legs look the same size should beat Cutler, yes, even Vince G

theonlyone · « **Reply #13 on:** December 23, 2006, 06:05:00 AM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on December 23, 2006, 04:48:48 AM

shelestov shabunia

Right

Scimowser · « **Reply #14 on:** December 23, 2006, 06:21:17 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on December 23, 2006, 05:32:24 AM

i agree with you except Wolf. He is the only man i saw who had good mass with extremely small waist.Normaly,if you have good legs,your waist grow. Believe me,its true. But,i think this guys waist will remain the same even he gets 20lbs heavier.
So,when he gets enough mass, i believe he is gonna be a mr.o.

i dont see Wolf making a long term impact in the sport, maybe ill be proved wrong but better guys have disappeared without a trace when they have competed against the current crop. Plus the new faces coming through are looking like theyll rule the sport for the next decade

theonlyone · « **Reply #15 on:** December 23, 2006, 06:32:53 AM »

Will Alexey Shabunia rip apart the a the Jay Cutler?

musclehedz · « **Reply #16 on:** December 23, 2006, 06:34:16 AM »

I trained with Dennis Wolf a few weeks ago, his size and conditioning was simply amazing. Those guys look 2/3 times bigger in real life (especially the back) He's very open and friendly.

Arnold_Anabo · « **Reply #17 on:** December 23, 2006, 07:03:53 AM »

Dennis was 293 pounds 2 weeks ago, now he is over 300 in great offseason shape.(picture was taken 2 weeks ago)

theonlyone · « **Reply #18 on:** December 23, 2006, 07:14:58 AM »

Quote from: Arnold_Anabo on December 23, 2006, 07:03:53 AM

Dennis was 293 pounds 2 weeks ago, now he is over 300 in great offseason shape.(picture was taken 2 weeks ago)

Looking abnormal, the freak, I wonder who would have wanted to look like that?

MONSTER_TRICEPS · « **Reply #19 on:** December 23, 2006, 07:42:05 AM »

Quote from: Arnold_Anabo on December 23, 2006, 07:03:53 AM

Dennis was 293 pounds 2 weeks ago, now he is over 300 in great offseason shape.(picture was taken 2 weeks ago)

That's insane.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #20 on:** December 23, 2006, 07:43:39 AM »

Quote from: theonlyone on December 23, 2006, 06:32:53 AM

Will Alexey Shabunia rip apart the a the Jay Cutler?

not with those skinny legs.

NJ_Slinky · « **Reply #21 on:** December 23, 2006, 07:49:35 AM »

Phil Heath is just like every other next great in any other sport. People love to support the next champion prior to the championship for a multitude of reasons. Biggest reason is "I was a fan before any of you, I knew it all along" If Phil has staying power (no injuries, good health, desire to walk the wild side), he should be a consistent top tier star, but forget about Olympia status. If Flex Wheeler couldn't nab it, Phil sure won't.

Saxon · « **Reply #22 on:** December 23, 2006, 07:51:15 AM »

Quote from: NJ_Slinky on December 23, 2006, 07:49:35 AM

If Flex Wheeler couldn't nab it, Phil sure won't.

Maybe Phil can avoid the Ninjas....

Arnold_Anabo · « **Reply #23 on:** December 23, 2006, 07:52:15 AM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on December 23, 2006, 07:43:39 AM

not with those skinny legs.

Skinny legs?
I don`t think so

the shadow · « **Reply #24 on:** December 23, 2006, 07:56:52 AM »

Quote from: Arnold_Anabo on December 23, 2006, 07:52:15 AM

Skinny legs?
I don`t think so

jays legs are still bigger..waay bigger