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Re: clear as day, 2 North Tower explosions caught on tape
« Reply #75 on: January 11, 2007, 01:44:37 PM »
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
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6. How could the WTC towers collapse in only 11 seconds (WTC 1) and 9 seconds (WTC 2)—speeds that approximate that of a ball dropped from similar height in a vacuum (with no air resistance)?

NIST estimated the elapsed times for the first exterior panels to strike the ground after the collapse initiated in each of the towers to be approximately 11 seconds for WTC 1 and approximately 9 seconds for WTC 2. These elapsed times were based on: (1) precise timing of the initiation of collapse from video evidence, and (2) ground motion (seismic) signals recorded at Palisades, N.Y., that also were precisely time-calibrated for wave transmission times from lower Manhattan (see NCSTAR 1-5A).

As documented in Section 6.14.4 of NIST NCSTAR 1, these collapse times show that:

“… the structure below the level of collapse initiation offered minimal resistance to the falling building mass at and above the impact zone. The potential energy released by the downward movement of the large building mass far exceeded the capacity of the intact structure below to absorb that energy through energy of deformation.

Since the stories below the level of collapse initiation provided little resistance to the tremendous energy released by the falling building mass, the building section above came down essentially in free fall, as seen in videos. As the stories below sequentially failed, the falling mass increased, further increasing the demand on the floors below, which were unable to arrest the moving mass.”

In other words, the momentum (which equals mass times velocity) of the 12 to 28 stories (WTC 1 and WTC 2, respectively) falling on the supporting structure below (which was designed to support only the static weight of the floors above and not any dynamic effects due to the downward momentum) so greatly exceeded the strength capacity of the structure below that it (the structure below) was unable to stop or even to slow the falling mass. The downward momentum felt by each successive lower floor was even larger due to the increasing mass.

From video evidence, significant portions of the cores of both buildings (roughly 60 stories of WTC 1 and 40 stories of WTC 2) are known to have stood 15 to 25 seconds after collapse initiation before they, too, began to collapse. Neither the duration of the seismic records nor video evidence (due to obstruction of view caused by debris clouds) are reliable indicators of the total time it took for each building to collapse completely


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Re: clear as day, 2 North Tower explosions caught on tape
« Reply #76 on: January 11, 2007, 01:44:45 PM »
joker didn't answer, did he?  (or did i miss it?)

joker - Do you see any conflict of interest with this man leading the investigation?

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Re: clear as day, 2 North Tower explosions caught on tape
« Reply #77 on: January 11, 2007, 01:47:30 PM »
joker didn't answer, did he?  (or did i miss it?)


I took the liberty of answering the moot question.


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Re: clear as day, 2 North Tower explosions caught on tape
« Reply #78 on: January 11, 2007, 01:48:59 PM »
joker didn't answer, did he?  (or did i miss it?)

I answered it in your other tread.
Why, because he had defense contracting job.?
No.

The reports aren't about him anyway. It is about the universities and engineering organizations that support the report and the reports were peer reviewed.
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Re: clear as day, 2 North Tower explosions caught on tape
« Reply #79 on: January 11, 2007, 01:51:04 PM »
See the problem with anwering a quesiton like that is we could draw the same conclusion with anyone assiciated with BUSH. 

Now that's as far out as we could get.   

Guilt by association.

Guilt by connection.

the point is:  Bement, wasn't the only investagating, and it's the scientific communities opinion of the NIST report that matters

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Re: clear as day, 2 North Tower explosions caught on tape
« Reply #80 on: January 11, 2007, 01:55:55 PM »
The reports aren't about him anyway. It is about the universities and engineering organizations that support the report and the reports were peer reviewed.

HE was personally appointed right after 9/11.

If you don't believe he helped choose the flavor, you're nuts.

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Re: clear as day, 2 North Tower explosions caught on tape
« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2007, 02:01:58 PM »
HE was personally appointed right after 9/11.

If you don't believe he helped choose the flavor, you're nuts.

Guilt by circumstance?

Com on.  that doesn;t even qualify as circumstancial evidence.  It's pure conjecture. 

Why would the president appoint someone he has had experiences with?  Perfectly reasonable.  plus whether he is or isn't is besides the point.


the Dr. Jones thing............  i never knew about him not letting his findings be peer reviewed.  That's major.

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Re: clear as day, 2 North Tower explosions caught on tape
« Reply #82 on: January 11, 2007, 05:06:24 PM »


witin the first 3 seconds of the video ...

''it was a military plane''

- they were too far away to identify the plane
- would this be your first reaction when you saw the plane hit?
- notice its just a voice over

ive seen hundreds of pictures of the planes hitting the buildings,, they were american airlines planes,, therefore your being played by conspericy theorists and their editing equipment

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Re: clear as day, 2 North Tower explosions caught on tape
« Reply #83 on: January 11, 2007, 07:04:25 PM »
I think you guys are missing something here, we are looking at videos, and those can easily be manipulated. Yeah, I see little explosions, that doesnt mean they weren't later added. Believe half of what you hear, none of what you see.