Raising the Bar 2 - Advance clip

[Moen]

This was the first and hopelfully the last time I saw someone actually cheating on leg extensions LOL

[gatomjp]

you don't have to be 100% strict in the gym at all times, like I said his form is a little loose for my tastes but if it works for him then great.  People need to realize that you can do things 150% different than someone else and still get results, it's about finding what works for you, there isn't one good way to build muscle...there's a ton of different roads to choose.  I didn't see enought footage to give advice or put the guy down, I'm sure he'd still be busting his balls if he was going super strict.  Anyone who can train that hard, even if it's only for short periods of time is ok in my book.

That's nice of you to say but what is surprising to me about all of this controversy is that no one commented on the actual topic of the clip...the difficulty of finding good workout partners. All they concentrated on was his form and his clothes. Surface stuff. That bothers me from a moviemaker's point of view. That means I didn't get my point across.

Isn't finding someone who is dedicated and will show up on time something that you guys struggle with constantly? Or do most of you work out solo?

[Moen]

The video in itself looks well produced man, thats all fine

[Overload]

It's really hard to find a "good" training partner...i've been through so many it's retarded.

i was training with some upper level power lifters for a while and i was making insane gains. work schedules messed that all up.

[eastcoastbbman]

This was the first and hopelfully the last time I saw someone actually cheating on leg extensions LOL

bro, do me a favor. get under a 300 lb stack on a leg extension machine, imitate my form and get 50 reps like i do. i swear to you, there is nothing like the pain you will experience in your quads. ONLY YOUR QUADS. NOT YOUR LOWER BACK ETC, IF YOURE DOING IT RIGHT!

ive NEVER gotten that feeling from doing them "textbook"..seriously!

[Pollux]

lol!! bro, i know how it is here on getbig. ive been reading it for years!! its part of why i prefer it over other boards. actually, i think you guys are funny as shit and ive spent the last day and a half reading your responses and laughing harder than i have in a long time!  i dont take any of it personally. you dont have to stroke my ego. i know where my faults lie.  I CANT TAKE THE HEAT!!! LOL!!

anyway, to answer your questions. bro, i have no problem telling you like it is. i dont give a shit. i will outline anything i do. first off, i want to list the things i do NOT use:

1) any fatburners you can buy over the counter.
2) t-3,4,5, or whatever! did it once, burnt all my muscles away
3) clen. dont like the way it makes me feel. havent touched it since 1991.
4) anything with stimulants in it. cant deal with how i feel on it.

ok, heres what i really believe is the key to my dryness and y'all are gonna probably make fun of me for it, cause its not drug related. dont get me wrong. i do everything everyone else does "supp" wise. its just that i dont believe thats what gives me my dry , crisp look. plenty of guys do all the drugs, then show up fat and watery. weve all seen it.

i start no less than 20 weeks out. i truly eat nothing but 6 foods from day 1, till the show. i drink nothing but water. and i start cardio off slowly, but i end up doing 45 minutes in the am and 30 in the pm, 7 days a week from 8 weeks out till the day of the show. i have found that , if you remove EVERY LAST BIT OF FAT FROM YOUR BODY, YOUR DRY OUT WILL HAPPEN ALMOST EFFORTLESSLY. the more fat you have come dry out time, the harder it will be to get dry. just that simple. i truly do not stop until the skin on my "trouble spots" is as thin as the skin on the back of my hand. then i know im ready!

now, i will sit back and wait to get blasted for not revealing my secret drug weapon!! lol!!!

And that's why I respect ya, Dave. You one cool muthafucka! 
You keep it real, without givin' a fuck.

[eastcoastbbman]

And that's why I respect ya, Dave. You one cool muthafucka! 
You keep it real, without givin' a f**k.

THANKS, BRO!!!!...I TRY!

[Pollux]

By the way, Dave... your brother BEST use Getbig as an outlet to notify us its official release.
I'm waitin' on this shit, holmes.

[gatomjp]

By the way, Dave... your brother BEST use Getbig as an outlet to notify us its official release.
I'm waitin' on this shit, holmes.

Will do P! I'm working on it right now!!

[natural al]

That's nice of you to say but what is surprising to me about all of this controversy is that no one commented on the actual topic of the clip...the difficulty of finding good workout partners. All they concentrated on was his form and his clothes. Surface stuff. That bothers me from a moviemaker's point of view. That means I didn't get my point across.

Isn't finding someone who is dedicated and will show up on time something that you guys struggle with constantly? Or do most of you work out solo?

I havent' had a workout partner in 13 years so it doesn't even enter my mind.  I honestly don't think anyone would want to do what I do when I do it, nobody I see training when I'm trianing could do what I want to do in the gym. 

[BigAnt]

yo!! big ant!! wassup!!!??

al's shoulder is 100% healed and hes doing great! hes about 240 and looking fairly hard. we will see if he can put it all together for the arnold.

as for you and me and the north amercans...i believe we should stay in our respective classes and "divide and conquer" lol!

Dave;
You where on last year!

Just bring the same package...and please take it easy on me in the Overall pose down LOL!

[BigAnt]

bro, do me a favor. get under a 300 lb stack on a leg extension machine, imitate my form and get 50 reps like i do. i swear to you, there is nothing like the pain you will experience in your quads. ONLY YOUR QUADS. NOT YOUR LOWER BACK ETC, IF YOURE DOING IT RIGHT!

ive NEVER gotten that feeling from doing them "textbook"..seriously!

In RTB #1 Dave has-had his share of injuries, he is doing what works best for him.  And it is working.  I did train in the off-season with him and Al.  They don't train all that sloppy, just enough cheat to kick through the sticking point!

[gatomjp]

I havent' had a workout partner in 13 years so it doesn't even enter my mind.  I honestly don't think anyone would want to do what I do when I do it, nobody I see training when I'm trianing could do what I want to do in the gym. 

And you don't ever feel like you could use one from time to time? To help motivate you and help force out extra reps?

[gatomjp]

In RTB #1 Dave has-had his share of injuries, he is doing what works best for him.  And it is working.  I did train in the off-season with him and Al.  They don't train all that sloppy, just enough cheat to kick through the sticking point!

BigAnt makes a good point. As a filmmaker I was looking for the wildest sets, the most intensity. I probably ended up choosing all the sets with the loosest form because that's where he's pushing himself the hardest. In the earlier sets his form is much better...but that don't make for good video. So, it's MY fault y'all think he's sloppy!  ;-)

[bigger]

Yo Dave,
You now where to go if you wanna train.Its on your way to golds.lol

[Wombat]

lmao!!! daaaaaaaamn!!!! thank god im not overly sensative!! you guys are brutal!! loL!!

however, i am guilty as charged on all accusation. i admit i am still stuck in 80's gym fashion. im working on that. my form on everything has been personlized and modified over the years and is, admittedly far from textbook on alot of movements. but, as was mentioned, alot of those clips are out of context and are triple sets and drop sets etc, so the weights arent monstrous and the form...well it works for me.

drinking out of a bowl is not done for effect. ive been doing that for years only because its easier to get all the powder into a bowl rather than a mixing cup. lol!

in fact, nothing in that clip is done for effect. im not putting on faces on purpose or "trying to look like" anything. its just me being me. sorry if it came across otherwise...

arvilla, thanks for the love,,bro...lol!!

When they make(or if they make) a Titus movie.  Make sure you show up and try to land the role...Talk to Chick about it...Your almost a spitting image of titus..

[Rami]

 

 

[eastcoastbbman]

 

 

whats your point, rami?!?!?

[eastcoastbbman]

 

 

that is a still shot of 1 rep of one of my  sets, obviously posted to try to make me look silly.this was my heaviest set, which, by the way, was a set of 20 reps with a 400 lb. stack, so sue me if i use body english. all i know is when im done, my lats are swollen like a stuffed thanksgiving turkey! lol! get your head out of the textbook and into a goddam gym!

[dr.chimps]

that is a still shot of 1 rep of one of my  sets, obviously posted to try to make me look silly.this was my heaviest set, which, by the way, was a set of 20 reps with a 400 lb. stack, so sue me if i use body english. all i know is when im done, my lats are swollen like a stuffed thanksgiving turkey! lol! get your head out of the textbook and into a goddam gym!

Body english!? LOL Wow, you could be on a dolly underneath a car with such 'english.'

/you seem to be reponding to criticism well. good on ya

[gatomjp]

Hey! Who posted that still?? That's copyright infringement!! I'll sue yur ass!!  ;-)

[donthate1]

This guy needs someone to show him CORRECT FORM to lift weights!!!  What the hell?

[gatomjp]

By the way, as an outsider to the world of bodybuilding and a lover of internet bulletin board debates, I gotta tell ya...this is the stupidest argument ever! It's the RESULTS that count. I just don't see the sense in deriding someone's exercise form (or pants) when it clearly has produced the body that wins competitions. It doesn't make any sense to me.

[Pollux]

 

 

I thought the same shit when I saw your performance on this exercise, Dave.
I was like, 'WTF!?!?', but if that shit and form works for you then go on with yo bad self. 

[eastcoastbbman]

I thought the same shit when I saw your performance on this exercise, Dave.
I was like, 'WTF!?!?', but if that shit and form works for you then go on with yo bad self. 

look. i have modified my form on most movements over the years to suit me. i go by feel and how damned sore i get in the target muscle the next 2 days. plain and simple.

look at that still shot for a moment, please. isnt that the same exact anatomical position as a seated row? arent seated rows for back?? yes!

so, lets not call what i am doing "pulldowns", cause theyre not! theyre clearly not pulldowns. lets call them "ROW-DOWNS" ..they are "dave row-downs"

now...look again at that still shot, and you will see i am doing perfect "textbook form on ROW-DOWNS!!

I HOPE THIS MAKES EVERYONE HAPPY.