Author Topic: Cutler Vs. Yates (Read 12353 times)

wannabebig5 · « **Reply #50 on:** January 22, 2007, 01:41:38 PM »

damn i love it when all the dorian lovers post that pic with levrone and nasser owning his ass. hahahahahahahaha!

nukkaready · « **Reply #51 on:** January 22, 2007, 01:55:16 PM »

The 93' or 95' version of Yates would have deafeted any version of Jay Cutler. Cutler defeated a sub-par Coleman but is no match for a 98' 99' or 03' Coleman whearas Dorian clearly is.

Hulkster · « **Reply #52 on:** January 22, 2007, 02:26:01 PM »

even though I think 93 dorian is better, both he and jay have the same dough like arms...uncanny comparison.

benjamin pearson · « **Reply #53 on:** January 22, 2007, 02:36:39 PM »

Early Yates in my opinion destroys Cutler..... the man has no vascularity and his waist is as wide as a fridge.... and anyone who says vascularity for cutler is all genetic look at his early pics before gh made his skin so thick

Hulkster · « **Reply #54 on:** January 22, 2007, 02:38:26 PM »

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the man has no vascularity and his waist is as wide as a fridge....

are you talking about jay or dorian?

Royalty · « **Reply #55 on:** January 22, 2007, 03:32:16 PM »

at 5'9 274lbs, you can just discount Jays overall mass and width.

Even at that heavy body weight, Jay had striations in his vastus lateralis, and his calves were shredded. He has tremendous depth in his 6 pack. On the downside, Jay only as visible veins in his delts and back.

pobrecito · « **Reply #56 on:** January 22, 2007, 03:34:48 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on January 22, 2007, 03:32:16 PM

at 5'9 274lbs, you can just discount Jays overall mass and width.

Even at that heavy body weight, Jay had striations in his vastus lateralis, and his calves were shredded. He has tremendous depth in his 6 pack. On the downside, Jay only as visible veins in his delts and back.

Striations don't mean jack shit when it comes to condition. Flex Wheeler had more striations in his quads at 10% BF than most bodybuilders have at 3%.

Wombat · « **Reply #57 on:** January 22, 2007, 04:28:26 PM »

I think 2001 Jay beats any package that Yates has put out..

Royalty · « **Reply #58 on:** January 23, 2007, 04:11:54 AM »

Quote from: pobrecito on January 22, 2007, 03:34:48 PM

Striations don't mean jack shit when it comes to condition. Flex Wheeler had more striations in his quads at 10% BF than most bodybuilders have at 3%.

striations mean a lot more than vascularity! thats for sure. pound for pound and inch for inch, Jay is bigger that Yates and Nasser at their peaks. And Jay doesnt have any glaring weak body parts. Jay is balanced...his best poses are 1) rear double bicep 2) side tricep 3) Abdominal/Thigh.

Nasser = 5'11 @ 275
Yates = 5'10 @ 260
Cutler = 5'9 @ 274

Saxon · « **Reply #59 on:** January 23, 2007, 04:21:54 AM »

The thing to remember about Cutler is

1) There is a very noticeable difference in the size of his arms

2) There is a very noticeable difference in the size of his legs

3) From the front, there is a very noticeable difference in the size of his lats

How such a asymmetrical physique can place in a bodybuilding show, let alone win one is beyond me.

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #60 on:** January 23, 2007, 04:30:33 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on January 23, 2007, 04:11:54 AM

striations mean a lot more than vascularity! thats for sure. pound for pound and inch for inch, Jay is bigger that Yates and Nasser at their peaks. And Jay doesnt have any glaring weak body parts. Jay is balanced...his best poses are 1) rear double bicep 2) side tricep 3) Abdominal/Thigh.

Nasser = 5'11 @ 275
Yates = 5'10 @ 260
Cutler = 5'9 @ 274

You do know we are talking about this guy right...

nycbull · « **Reply #61 on:** January 23, 2007, 05:25:16 AM »

Jay needs to train forearms.

Royalty · « **Reply #62 on:** January 23, 2007, 05:37:19 AM »

Quote from: nycbull on January 23, 2007, 05:25:16 AM

Jay needs to train forearms.

LOL....youre just another guy who will never step foot onstage telling MR Olympia how to train. I think he has a good handle on training. He is #1 in the world right now.

Its funny seeing all the negative stuff being said about Yates and Cutler. Its mostly by guys who never even attended a pro show.

Royalty · « **Reply #63 on:** January 23, 2007, 05:45:58 AM »

Quote from: MikeThaMachine on January 23, 2007, 04:30:33 AM

You do know we are talking about this guy right...

yeah. Melvin and Victor had their shot to beat Jay. They have been trying year after year after year. Jay has beat them every single time they competed. Melvin and Victor have a hard time with guys like Branch Warren and Gustavo Badell. Jay will be around 280lbs in 2007...and Victor and Melvin will not be able to beat that.

Royalty · « **Reply #64 on:** January 23, 2007, 05:49:39 AM »

Quote from: Saxon on January 23, 2007, 04:21:54 AM

The thing to remember about Cutler is

1) There is a very noticeable difference in the size of his arms

2) There is a very noticeable difference in the size of his legs

3) From the front, there is a very noticeable difference in the size of his lats

How such a asymmetrical physique can place in a bodybuilding show, let alone win one is beyond me.

I have trained right next to Jay. Your 3 points are all completely false.

the shadow · « **Reply #65 on:** January 23, 2007, 05:57:50 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on January 23, 2007, 04:11:54 AM

striations mean a lot more than vascularity! thats for sure. pound for pound and inch for inch, Jay is bigger that Yates and Nasser at their peaks. And Jay doesnt have any glaring weak body parts. Jay is balanced...his best poses are 1) rear double bicep 2) side tricep 3) Abdominal/Thigh.

Nasser = 5'11 @ 275
Yates = 5'10 @ 260
Cutler = 5'9 @ 274

absolutely correct.hell jay is bigger than ronnie too pound for pound.

the shadow · « **Reply #66 on:** January 23, 2007, 06:01:00 AM »

Quote from: Saxon on January 23, 2007, 04:21:54 AM

The thing to remember about Cutler is

1) There is a very noticeable difference in the size of his arms

2) There is a very noticeable difference in the size of his legs

3) From the front, there is a very noticeable difference in the size of his lats

How such a asymmetrical physique can place in a bodybuilding show, let alone win one is beyond me.

this year ronnie had..
1)2 torn lats

2)left leg torn

3)left tri torn

ronnies phyisue is not even asymmetrical,its complete shit shit and shit.a bit of imbalances are easily over looked as opposed to torn muscle.ronnie had more tron muscle than yates ever had in an olympia.

Royalty · « **Reply #67 on:** January 23, 2007, 06:02:23 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on January 23, 2007, 05:57:50 AM

absolutely correct.hell jay is bigger than ronnie too pound for pound.

the only guy that has truly more volume than Jay is Markus Ruhl. Ruhl takes up more space. Markus takes more space than Ronnie too.

the shadow · « **Reply #68 on:** January 23, 2007, 06:06:14 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on January 23, 2007, 06:02:23 AM

the only guy that has truly more volume than Jay is Markus Ruhl. Ruhl takes up more space. Markus takes more space than Ronnie too.

yep.i think so its because of ruhls shoulder width.same was the case with dillet.hell dillet at his peak took even more space than ruhl

Royalty · « **Reply #69 on:** January 23, 2007, 06:10:47 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on January 23, 2007, 06:06:14 AM

yep.i think so its because of ruhls shoulder width.same was the case with dillet.hell dillet at his peak took even more space than ruhl

Dillett was dissplaced by Nasser IMO. Dillet didnt look so big when Nasser landed on the scene. The 1996 and 1997 Mr Olympia video would be interesting to watch.

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #70 on:** January 23, 2007, 06:11:23 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on January 23, 2007, 06:01:00 AM

this year ronnie had..
1)2 torn lats

2)left leg torn

3)left tri torn

ronnies phyisue is not even asymmetrical,its complete shit shit and shit.a bit of imbalances are easily over looked as opposed to torn muscle.ronnie had more tron muscle than yates ever had in an olympia.

What a retard, he didn't tear anything, look at old pics next to new ones. There isn't much of a differece except he is older and getting more beat up but torn muscles, no.

Royalty · « **Reply #71 on:** January 23, 2007, 06:19:25 AM »

Quote from: MikeThaMachine on January 23, 2007, 06:11:23 AM

What a retard, he didn't tear anything, look at old pics next to new ones. There isn't much of a differece except he is older and getting more beat up but torn muscles, no.

Chad said that Ronnie has Arthritis

the shadow · « **Reply #72 on:** January 23, 2007, 06:25:04 AM »

Quote from: MikeThaMachine on January 23, 2007, 06:11:23 AM

What a retard, he didn't tear anything, look at old pics next to new ones. There isn't much of a differece except he is older and getting more beat up but torn muscles, no.

damn man you're one stupid irritating girl.he did tear muscles and he'll never admit it.this was even in the mags and the flex blog.you don't know shit shithead

Saxon · « **Reply #73 on:** January 23, 2007, 06:49:10 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on January 23, 2007, 05:49:39 AM

I have trained right next to Jay. Your 3 points are all completely false.

You should tell people to stop photoshopping all the pics of him then

IceCold · « **Reply #74 on:** January 23, 2007, 06:50:27 AM »

Quote from: Hulkster on January 22, 2007, 02:26:01 PM

even though I think 93 dorian is better, both he and jay have the same dough like arms...uncanny comparison.

take a hint already.

2 guys have won the Olympia based on your "flaws".

you are obvisiouly wrong with anything and you are too delusional to accept reality - like contest results.

instead you ingore qualified people and instead rely on your own expert opinion.