Did Ali....

[Option D]

get in his current condition from boxing. maybe taking too many punches to the dome? BEcause im thinking about training with mark selbee. Dudesaid he will train me for free. I really wanna try and give it a shot. But im not trying to end up punch drunk.

[Fury]

I'm sure it didn't help but he's suffering from a severe case of Parkinsons disease. Michael J. Fox is almost as bad at this point and he was never a boxer. As far as I know there are no studies proving that boxing worsens the effects of Parkinsons.

[torquemada]

Ali suffers from ParkinsonISM.  He demonstrates the same symptoms as a Parkinson's disease patient from (reportedly) head trauma.  He did fight a very rough style and took a lot of punishment in his career.

[onlyme]

Getting punch has NOTHING to do with getting Parkinsons.  If so then Frazier would be their poster boy.  If you have ever heard Ali talk you can tell he is NOT punch drunk at all.  He is very articulate or at least he was back in the late 80's.  As the Parkinsons progresses I am sure it affects his speech.

[Fury]

Ali suffers from ParkinsonISM.  He demonstrates the same symptoms as a Parkinson's disease patient from (reportedly) head trauma.  He did fight a very rough style and took a lot of punishment in his career.

Could've sworn it was Parkinson's DISEASE. Never heard it called ParkinsonISM. Got an article or something highlighting this?

[Dredlock Rasta]

Getting punch has NOTHING to do with getting Parkinsons.  If so then Frazier would be their poster boy.  If you have ever heard Ali talk you can tell he is NOT punch drunk at all.  He is very articulate or at least he was back in the late 80's.  As the Parkinsons progresses I am sure it affects his speech.

get in his current condition from boxing. maybe taking too many punches to the dome? BEcause im thinking about training with mark selbee. Dudesaid he will train me for free. I really wanna try and give it a shot. But im not trying to end up punch drunk.

If you don't fight till your 40's or way past your prime then you prolly won't become punch drunk. Look at most retired boxers in there later 60's and 70's. They don't talk like normal people, they sound slow.

[BigNBloated]

I think it has some influence. Yes he has severe parkinsons but the constant barrage from headshots had to have played a roll in his condition. As far as it causing parkinsons, no, but does it have something to do with his mental state and motorskills yes.

[Beth Chapman]

I think it has some influence. Yes he has severe parkinsons but the constant barrage from headshots had to have played a roll in his condition. As far as it causing parkinsons, no, but does it have something to do with his mental state and motorskills yes.

His motor skills are consistent with parkinson's. 
You don't catch a disease from getting punched.  Would you think he got prostate cancer from getting hit too many times?

[onlyme]

I think it has some influence. Yes he has severe parkinsons but the constant barrage from headshots had to have played a roll in his condition. As far as it causing parkinsons, no, but does it have something to do with his mental state and motorskills yes.

His motor skills are because of the illness.  His slurred speach also has something to do with it.  At the Hall of Fame dinner in LA when I was with him he was slow in moving.  In fact I cut his steak for him.  When he went up on stage he needed some help.  He started his speech off slow but about a minute or so into it, if you closed your eyes you would have thought you were at an Ali press conference in the 60's or 70's.  He went off with the mike.  He was awesome.  It gave everyone goose bumps and several people were crying.  It was just unbelievable when he spoke and how he spoke.  The place went crazy after that.
I remember walking with Jake Lamotta and saying to him if he felt sorry for Ali.  He told me that "don't feel sorry for him, he has led a life that no one else can ever dream of.  He is the champ and always will be". 

I do think the punches did do a little to his speech.  But nothing to his mental state.  He is still quick thinking just his body can't keep up.  His wife told me 3 months after this pic in Miami that Ali had more funwith me than she had seen him have in years.  He tackled me and we went rolling on the ground.  He is very solid. He was weighing about 235 he told me.

[BigNBloated]

I cant make myself beleive that his boxing style and the length of his career didnt have any negative effects. Im a young guy but Ive seen his fights. I was never saying that he got parkinsons from boxing. Thats dumb. Im saying his boxing could have had an effect on the severity of the disease. Most of the people who responded to my post didnt read the whole fucking thing apparently otherwise you wouldnt be telling me that you cant catch a disease from getting hit.

I think it has some influence. Yes he has severe parkinsons but the constant barrage from headshots had to have played a roll in his condition. As far as it causing parkinsons, no, but does it have something to do with his mental state and motorskills yes.
 

[Fury]

I cant make myself beleive that his boxing style and the length of his career didnt have any negative effects. Im a young guy but Ive seen his fights. I was never saying that he got parkinsons from boxing. Thats dumb. Im saying his boxing could have had an effect on the severity of the disease. Most of the people who responded to my post didnt read the whole fucking thing apparently otherwise you wouldnt be telling me that you cant catch a disease from getting hit.

I think it has some influence. Yes he has severe parkinsons but the constant barrage from headshots had to have played a roll in his condition. As far as it causing parkinsons, no, but does it have something to do with his mental state and motorskills yes.
 

I actually agree with Keith. He's still sharp, his body can't keep up, which is because of the disease. Not because he was punched in the head. Michael J Fox and others are almost as bad as Ali is and they've never taken punches to the head.

[Thin Lizzy]

Ali suffers from ParkinsonISM.  He demonstrates the same symptoms as a Parkinson's disease patient from (reportedly) head trauma.  He did fight a very rough style and took a lot of punishment in his career.

From what I've read and heard, Ali took as much punishment in sparring as he did in actual fights. He felt that sparring wasn't realistic unless you got hit hard enough to the point of being hurt.

[Nathan]

He got hit by the heavyest hitters in the world, Gorges Forman hit harder that Tyson in his day!
They just don't make boxers like the old days, They were all starving and poor and motivated to kill anyone to get a meal ticket. Now adays people just talk allot and have no heart, want to fight but not get hurt etc..
I was an armature boxer for years and I have never suffered any dwn side. If u take enough punishment tho somthins gotta give sooner or later.

[BigNBloated]

How in the world can you guys not beleive that getting hit like that year in and year out doesnt have an effect on you? Your brain and skull were not meant to withstand that type of trauma. OK so nathan you were an amatuer boxer for years and didnt get hurt, yah lots of guys have done that(not hacking on your career or anything youve done), but you didnt have a career as long as ali's fighting the caliber and heaviest hitters of his time. Michael Jay fox can speak and move around without a walker. He is not anywhere near as bad as Ali.

[Nathan]

Yeah it's hard to prove if it's related tho. However I never took shoots like Ali did, I don't think too many fighters have. And back in the day the fighters did more dammage and there where way less rules.
Mick Folie said he has trouble counting etc.. and he said it was from getting hit in the head with chairs.