Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?

[Playboy]

Speak for yourself. To each his own.

PB

[pinchharmonic]

Do you really want to hire a Attny to represent you and pay him several thousand? DO you really want to work off the charges with about 150 hrs of community service?

how does competing or doing photo shoots change that in the least bit?

[Knives]

Same thing applies to anyone doing any drug.  I couldn't care less if steroids are against the law.  I will not have ANYONE tell me what I can or cannot put into my body.  That is my moral decision and nobody else's.  And that is not to say I would even use gear, but it is most definitely my choice.  My mom thinks I was rebelling the one time I used ecstasy and the five times I tried marijuana.    I just wanted to try it, and I wasn't a rebel to the law - I wasn't even taking the law into consideration, nor will I ever, when it comes to decisions like that one.

Simple - don't sign for anything.  If they make you sign for it, explain that you don't know what the package is and refuse to sign for it.  If you do that, you can't be charged.  Once the package is delivered to your door and the mailman walks away, it would take a minimum of 24 hours to get a warrant to search your house anyway.  If you have a domestic source with two day delivery, they wouldn't even have the paperwork on time to search your house before you can hide it somewhere.  Also, drug dogs cannot smell steroids.  You can easily hide the gear so well that literally taking your house apart piece by piece will not uncover them.  Does the DEA really want to spend $10,000 trying to take $500 worth of steroids for personal use off the streets?  Nope - believe me, I know how the system works just from years of being perceptive and making observations.  I plan to promote safe steroid use as much as possible on my website, including advice like this.

I assure you, the law is NO incentive to me and never will be.  I will NOT participate in morally reprehensible laws where third parties feel they can tell me what is and is not in my best interest.  If I want to put something in my body - whether it be a a chocolate bar or a line of cocaine - I WILL.  With enough public resistance to these types of government infringes of our liberty, change will be made.  In 50 years, all drugs will be legal.  You read it here first.

Hey, I pretty much agree with what you're saying about how we should be able to take any drug we want, but what about a possible threat that that poses to other innocent bystanders?  What if someone is a victim of a violent crime because the perpetrator was doped up on something?

[Benny B]

Same thing applies to anyone doing any drug.  I couldn't care less if steroids are against the law.  I will not have ANYONE tell me what I can or cannot put into my body.  That is my moral decision and nobody else's.  And that is not to say I would even use gear, but it is most definitely my choice.  My mom thinks I was rebelling the one time I used ecstasy and the five times I tried marijuana.    I just wanted to try it, and I wasn't a rebel to the law - I wasn't even taking the law into consideration, nor will I ever, when it comes to decisions like that one.

Simple - don't sign for anything.  If they make you sign for it, explain that you don't know what the package is and refuse to sign for it.  If you do that, you can't be charged.  Once the package is delivered to your door and the mailman walks away, it would take a minimum of 24 hours to get a warrant to search your house anyway.  If you have a domestic source with two day delivery, they wouldn't even have the paperwork on time to search your house before you can hide it somewhere.  Also, drug dogs cannot smell steroids.  You can easily hide the gear so well that literally taking your house apart piece by piece will not uncover them.  Does the DEA really want to spend $10,000 trying to take $500 worth of steroids for personal use off the streets?  Nope - believe me, I know how the system works just from years of being perceptive and making observations.  I plan to promote safe steroid use as much as possible on my website, including advice like this.

I assure you, the law is NO incentive to me and never will be.  I will NOT participate in morally reprehensible laws where third parties feel they can tell me what is and is not in my best interest.  If I want to put something in my body - whether it be a a chocolate bar or a line of cocaine - I WILL.  With enough public resistance to these types of government infringes of our liberty, change will be made.  In 50 years, all drugs will be legal.  You read it here first.

Obeying the law only when it suits you reflects your moral shortcomings.

[Richard2004]

Dont you have to go outside and attempt to tell neighborhood kids about your lifts from the 50's and show them "recent" pictures taken in 1971

Now, now, Benji, I've taken a whole bunch of flames from you w/o responding...guess it's time to finally respond!

Uhhh...I don't need to "tell neighborhood kids about my lifts made in the 1950's", since, thanks to the Squad gang's repeated flaming and challenges on Getbig, I finally posted my officially documented lifts...fully backing up my claims!

Now, my challenge to YOU...with all of the BB drugs now available to artificially inflate your physical strength; plus all of the multi-ply support equipment/clothing available to provide added support/aid to your weak body...let's see if you can lift merely 340 lbs. from the floor overhead in a controlled manner, totally unassisted, as I did...over 47 years ago, in an official weightlifting contest, totally drug-free, weighing only a skinny 185 lbs., and wearing only a single-ply 4 in. wide flimsy "lifting belt".

Why, I'm only asking you to lift a DOCUMENTED mediocre 340 lbs. overhead unassisted, not a full 155 lbs. over your bodyweight overhead, as I did!  Surely, you can do this with all of the artificial, CHEATING, aids/advantages available to you today!??

[gtbro1]

But if you dont compete or are NOT getting PAID to do a shoot then why committ a felony and risk negative side affects like gyno and balding?

Why worry about what any of us do?  mind your business. There is nothing wrong with sensible gear use.Yes it is illegal and everyone must make the choice if it is worth  the risk to them.It has no effect on you if I decide to use so why do you care?

[Devon97]

Why worry about what any of us do?  mind your business. There is nothing wrong with sensible gear use.Yes it is illegal and everyone must make the choice if it is worth  the risk to them.It has no effect on you if I decide to use so why do you care?

TRUE, I am NOT worried, I was simply asking.... hence the TITLE of the thread " WHy do guys who DONT compete take AAS?"

..... and you along with everyone else has not been able to provide a concrete answer

[Devon97]

Like I said, don't sign for the package and you can't get charged.  The end.

Incorrect

[Earl1972]

..... and you along with everyone else has not been able to provide a concrete answer

there have been plenty of good answers you just don't want to accept them for whatever reason

E

[benjamin pearson]

Now, now, Benji, I've taken a whole bunch of flames from you w/o responding...guess it's time to finally respond!

Uhhh...I don't need to "tell neighborhood kids about my lifts made in the 1950's", since, thanks to the Squad gang's repeated flaming and challenges on Getbig, I finally posted my officially documented lifts...fully backing up my claims!

Now, my challenge to YOU...with all of the BB drugs now available to artifically inflate your physical strength; plus all of the multi-ply support equipment/clothing available to provide added support/aid to your weak body...let's see if you can lift merely 340 lbs. from the floor overhead in a controlled manner, totally unassisted, as I did...over 47 years ago, in an official weightlifting contest, totally drug-free, weighing only a skinny 185 lbs., and wearing only a single-ply 4 in. wide flimsy "lifting belt".

Why, I'm only asking you to lift a DOCUMENTED mediocre 340 lbs. overhead unassisted, not a full 155 lbs. over your bodyweight overhead, as I did!  Surely, you can do this with all of the artificial, CHEATING, aids/advantages available to you today!??

I didnt challenge yoiu to a lift off I said you are a delusional old man

[Darth Muscle]

I didnt challenge yoiu to a lift off I said you are a delusional old man

Pussy

[Devon97]

there have been plenty of good answers you just don't want to accept them for whatever reason

E

Well of course you think they are GOOD answers, your delusional you ACTUALLY think someone needs AAS who doesnt compete, doesnt  require HRT and Doesnt need them for their profession (model or athlete).

[Playboy]

Well of course you think they are GOOD answers, your delusional you ACTUALLY think someone needs AAS who doesnt compete, doesnt  require HRT and Doesnt need them for their profession (model or athlete).

Is there any reason why you're so concerned about OUR choice to take anabolics? I mean after all, ITS REALLY NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

PB

[Devon97]

Is there any reason why you're so concerned about OUR choice to take anabolics? I mean after all, ITS REALLY NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

PB

Well I am more CONFUSED then concerned.... which is why I asked the question " Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?"   So far I still havent gotten any logical answers.

[incognegro]

I thought I told you de-von its also a money factor, I

[incognegro]

why spend 80 dollars on  some fake over the counter steroid knock-off when I can buy the real thing for 50 bucks enough said, My physique looked good when I was natural

[Irongrip400]

I dont feel like sifting throught this thread, so if its been said, sorry.  Its the same as asking why anyone does any drugs.  You like it.  Simple as that.  Why drink?  Why do any drug for that matter.  Its to feel good.

[Devon97]

Are you saying I could have a package of gear sent to your house and you could go to jail for it?  In that case we could all just send random packages to the homes of people we dislike and they could go to jail.  It doesn't work that way.  If you deny it up and down - providing there is no other evidence - you will not get charged.  Courts have a burden of proof you know.  A random package arriving at your door with no other evidence will not hold up in court.  Hope this helps.

Just out of curiosity, do you work for the DEA?  If so, I will definitely squash all of your propaganda point by point.  I will not allow people to forego doing a drug if they so choose in fear of the law.  The solution to the drug problems in the world is not that.  Only through education can we promote health and safety.

1) If you sent me a 100 bottle order of Gear and one of the bottles cracked and leaked out... the Postal Inspector can open the package..... with an order as large as 100 bottles it would not be unsual at all for a judge to issue a search warrent for the  residence the package was addressed to, especally if it was local.

2) If a UG lab was busted and your addy was found on a customer list AND LOCAL dont be surprised if the local Narcotics division flagged your addy..... and then if u continued to have mulitple packages delivered they could EASILY get a search warrent. NO CONTROLLED DELIVER NEEDED ... I know this for a fact because I know someone this happened to and my friend is a narcotics investigator.

[Devon97]

I dont feel like sifting throught this thread, so if its been said, sorry.  Its the same as asking why anyone does any drugs.  You like it.  Simple as that.  Why drink?  Why do any drug for that matter.  Its to feel good.

SO basically your mentally, physically or emotionally addicted.... Got it.

[Devon97]

Don't keep the gear in your house.

Do you honestly believe that everyone who uses drugs gets busted?  I would say 95% of people who buy, sell, and use drugs do not.

You're like my mother.  To her smoking a joint is the same as abusing cocaine for 30 years.  Stop thinking in absolute terms.  There are many people who use drugs, both recreational and hormonal, who are not addicted to anything and are quite emotionally stable making a decision as an adult to do what they do.  Don't paint everyone with the same brush.

So your willing to risk a FELONIOUS record and addiction to drugs with out FINIANCIAL GAIN or Contest Success?

[Irongrip400]

So your willing to risk a FELONIOUS record and addiction to drugs with out FINIANCIAL GAIN or Contest Success?

people do it everyday man, legal and illegal drugs.  Do you drink caffene?  I personally am not an advocate of steroids, and dont smoke weed, but I also dont see a problem with it.  There are tons of things that are worse.  Not flaming you dude, just saying.

[Devon97]

people do it everyday man, legal and illegal drugs.  Do you drink caffene?   I personally am not an advocate of steroids, and dont smoke weed, but I also dont see a problem with it.  There are tons of things that are worse.  Not flaming you dude, just saying.

Yea Bro but its not a FELONY to drink caffene!

Your rightpeople do it every day and I wanted to know WHY they do it.

SO far no one has been able to provide a legit reason.

[Earl1972]

Well of course you think they are GOOD answers, your delusional you ACTUALLY think someone needs AAS who doesnt compete, doesnt  require HRT and Doesnt need them for their profession (model or athlete).

nobody here needs to lift weights either so what is your point

E

[Devon97]

I suspect that if you already have an anti-steroid attitude that nothing I say will change your point of view.  I'm going to be rational and logical in my reply to you and I will assume that you are open minded and intelligent enough to understand my points.

They say no one does their first line of cocaine expecting to become an addict, and this is true of addicts.  However, many do cocaine and do not become addicted - the difference is the fact that those who do not become addicted generally have the foresight to know what they are getting into, be aware of the dangers, and act accordingly to prevent such hazards from taking place.  Similarly, you can use steroids without being addicted - they are not physiologically addicting and they do not have to be psychologically addicting unless you allow them to (much like getbig).

There is also little financial gain in competitive bodybuilding and many juiced competitors make nothing from it.  So how does that justify the use of steroids?  Achieving contest success is no more relevant than achieving gym success.  Take finances out of the picture and all you are left with is personal fulfillment, be it in the gym or on stage.
Will I risk a criminal record to use steroids?  Absolutely!  I will not allow the state to tell me what I can or cannot put in my body.  With enough people resisting these immoral and controlling laws they will not be able to arrest everyone, and true progressive change can be made regarding drug use.
Take care, Devon97.  I hope that I have helped to show you a new perspective in some way.

But how does one get personal fulfillment if they dont even "document" the occasion.... like with a show or shoot?
If there is NOT an EVENT you are doing a cycle forthen HOW do u get fulfillment?

Good Idea , have you seen the movie "V" ?

[gtbro1]

But how does one get personal fulfillment if they dont even "document" the occasion.... like with a show or shoot?
If there is NOT an EVENT you are doing a cycle forthen HOW do u get fulfillment?

Good Idea , have you seen the movie "V" ?

You are not even making sense.The fulfilment is the way you look and how YOU FEEL ABOUT YOURSELF. If benching 400 lbs makes you feel better about yourself,and gear helps you do that,then that is your answer.It's a personal choice...just like any illegal drug.