Ribo says 9/11 hijackers more deserving of respect than Bruce

[24KT]

Let's face it, we already know you're capable of saying some pretty daft things.  This is no exception.

FVCK OFF BRUCE!!!

my political point being you're a complete fvcktard! 

[240 is Back]

I can not defend anything related to 9/11... HOWEVER, they have shown that the supposed 9/11 hijackers, are still alive and well in the world, so they must not have been the terrorists either.

I don't know why this doesn't matter to people.

There were ZERO arabs autopsied at the Pentagon.  Zero Arab plane tickets.  And they found the one magic passport.  That was the only connection.

I can't believe people don't ask how these men got on the plane with no tickets.

[OzmO]

wow i didn't know this was going to be a double feature tonite!

 

[ribonucleic]

I don't know why this doesn't matter to people.

There were ZERO arabs autopsied at the Pentagon.  Zero Arab plane tickets.  And they found the one magic passport.  That was the only connection.

I can't believe people don't ask how these men got on the plane with no tickets.

"The how and the who is just scenery for the public. Keeps them guessing like some kind of parlor game. Prevents them from asking the most important question. Why?"

[BRUCE]

FVCK OFF BRUCE!!!

my political point being you're a complete fvcktard! 

Take a few seconds out to relax, okay?  That can't be good for your health.

[ieffinhatecardio]

FVCK OFF BRUCE!!!

my political point being you're a complete fvcktard! 

 

If you get this worked up over a message board you must be a blast in the real world.

[BRUCE]

If you get this worked up over a message board you must be a blast in the real world.

Don't say that - she'll have to purchase some carbon offsets.

[Dos Equis]

Those who murder innocent people and intentionally kill themselves in the process, dying a painless death, the result of which they believe is "heaven" with 70 (or whatever) virgins for themselves are evil cowards. 

[24KT]

If you get this worked up over a message board you must be a blast in the real world.

Those who know... know.
Those who don't, ...wish they did. 

[Dos Equis]

Those who know... know.
Those who don't, ...wish they did. 

And in which rest home can we find those who did? 

 

[BRUCE]

Those who murder innocent people and intentionally kill themselves in the process, dying a painless death, the result of which they believe is "heaven" with 70 (or whatever) virgins for themselves are evil cowards. 

Amen to that.

[Thin Lizzy]

Of course, we've killed at least 57,000 innocent civilians to advance our agenda.

But we're Americans. So we're not terrorists.

Hope this helps.

No, it doesn't help. Moslem fighters have been known to set up shop in civilian areas and mosques and then bitch about the civilian casualties.

But, you, an America hater, will find every rationalization to justify the actions of America's enemies.

[ribonucleic]

No, it doesn't help. Moslem fighters have been known to set up shop in civilian areas and mosques and then bitch about the civilian casualties.

But, you, an America hater, will find every rationalization to justify the actions of America's enemies.

During the Revolutionary War, the British always whined about how the Americans would hide in forests and stage guerrilla attacks - rather than forming ranks and fighting a pitched engagement like civilized people. They were quite frustrated by the inability of their superior conventional forces to prevail against a fluid domestic resistance. And thanks to some material support from France, we made the war too costly for them to sustain at such a distance from the heart of their empire. They went home and we were free to get down to the business of killing Indians and making money.

I'm sure you're not getting it yet, so I'll draw you a diagram...

Then                  Now
-----                 ----

The British          The Americans
The Americans     The Iraqis
The French          The Iranians
The Indians         The Kurds

Now I know that you're never going to accept the premise that some dirty brown-skinned sand-ni@@er with a crazy name who speaks gibberish instead of English might be as passionate and sincere in wanting to get rid, by any means necessary, of the imperial forces that are raping his women, killing his children, and stealing his shit. So I won't waste time on that.

But I will ask you to reflect on the central point in my little analogy...

The British lost.

We, too, are going to lose. It's an historical inevitability. [Of course, as Dr. Rice demonstrated recently, history is not the neocons strong suit.]

I'd like us to acknowledge that inevitability and end the war now before more people on both sides are killed for no fucking purpose.

[Dos Equis]

No, it doesn't help. Moslem fighters have been known to set up shop in civilian areas and mosques and then bitch about the civilian casualties.

But, you, an America hater, will find every rationalization to justify the actions of America's enemies.

These nuts aren't just setting up shop in civilian areas and mosques, they are blowing up civilian areas and mosques. 

[240 is Back]

ribo,

mad props.  that is an amazing post about the similiarities.  France helping the colonists to hurt their neighboring UK was their way of keeping the UK weak enough to not move into their neck of the woods for british imperialism. 

wow, this puts it all in perspective.  I know you'll have the irrational neotaints here, calling you names because they don't understand American history. 

Fascinating...

[militarymuscle69]

What I think is interesting is that if they give their lives for their country, they're a terrorist.

If you give your life for yours... you're a patriot... Kinda fucked up if you ask me.

I know I have explained this before, but for all you knuckle heads like tu_holmes (great name by the way...snicker...) We are the biggest kid in the playground. You come here and fuck up our swingset, you are a terrorist, and until you can stop us we will come beat your ass and call ourselves the good guy...which will be forever

[Cavalier22]

I don't have time to get too much into the substance of the post--guerilla warriors are by no means destined to win any war they start.  

As for "During the Revolutionary War, the British always whined about how the Americans would hide in forests and stage guerrilla attacks - rather than forming ranks and fighting a pitched engagement like civilized people."  By and large the majority of the  battles during the Revolutionary War were pitched engagements...a notable exception being the guerilla warfare taken up by Americans in some of the southern colonies.

Like I said, if I have time later I will show you how the premise of your argument is full of holes...I seriously doubt you have read 1/6 of the literature I have on the Rev War.  

As for this revealing gem, "imperial forces that are raping his women, killing his children, and stealing his shit. So I won't waste time on that."....wow.  So American forces are raping women, killing children, and stealing his (the Iraqi's) shit???  American forces would not be there anymore if the Iraqi's themselves werent doing these things you name to each other at a barbaric pace.  That you can even believe that more than a few degenerates in the US Armed Forces would do any of these things tells me how warped your worldview is. You obviously have no experience in dealing with the US military or how quickly you would get thrown under the bus exhibiting this kind of behavior.  American soldiers killing children...they are not fanatical islamists or nazi death squads...they go out of their way to protect these kids.

One last thing for now: the Kurds as the Indians?   I know that comparison fits well into your little list, but it doesn't make sense on any level.  Even the biggest US critic recognizes that the Kurds are our steadfast ally and staunchest supporter; the Indians in the US Revolution were solidly on the British side, with some exceptions.  THey felt the British were their best chance to hamper American expansionism.

[OzmO]

I don't have time to get too much into the substance of the post--guerilla warriors are by no means destined to win any war they start. 

As for "During the Revolutionary War, the British always whined about how the Americans would hide in forests and stage guerrilla attacks - rather than forming ranks and fighting a pitched engagement like civilized people."  By and large the majority of the  battles during the Revolutionary War were pitched engagements...a notable exception being the guerilla warfare taken up by Americans in some of the southern colonies.

Like I said, if I have time later I will show you how the premise of your argument is full of holes...I seriously doubt you have read 1/6 of the literature I have on the Rev War. 

As for this revealing gem, "imperial forces that are raping his women, killing his children, and stealing his shit. So I won't waste time on that."....wow.  So American forces are raping women, killing children, and stealing his (the Iraqi's) shit???  American forces would not be there anymore if the Iraqi's themselves werent doing these things you name to each other at a barbaric pace.  That you can even believe that more than a few degenerates in the US Armed Forces would do any of these things tells me how warped your worldview is. You obviously have no experience in dealing with the US military or how quickly you would get thrown under the bus exhibiting this kind of behavior.  American soldiers killing children...they are not fanatical islamists or nazi death squads...they go out of their way to protect these kids.

One last thing for now: the Kurds as the Indians?   I know that comparison fits well into your little list, but it doesn't make sense on any level.  Even the biggest US critic recognizes that the Kurds are our steadfast ally and staunchest supporter; the Indians in the US Revolution were solidly on the British side, with some exceptions.  THey felt the British were their best chance to hamper American expansionism.

well said.  nice post

[ribonucleic]

So American forces are raping women, killing children

<< A US Army soldier has pleaded guilty to raping a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and helping murder her and her family. James Barker agreed to the plea deal at the start of his court-martial in the US to avoid the death penalty... Specialist Barker is one of four US soldiers charged with murder... All four soldiers belong to the 2nd Brigade of the elite 101st Airborne Division. >>

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6152118.stm

"Elite" is highlighted in anticipation of the inevitable whining about "a few bad apples". These 4 psychopaths were the gung-ho ones -  "the best of the best".

But there's no need to quibble. If you send 100,000 19-year olds far from home, give them automatic weapons, require them to perform a hopeless mission as their buddies are blown up, and continually reinforce them to dehumanize "the enemy", this kind of thing is a mathematical inevitability.

And undoubtedly occurring 10 times for each accusation we hear about.

[240 is Back]

I don't have time to get too much into the substance of the post--guerilla warriors are by no means destined to win any war they start.  

As for "During the Revolutionary War, the British always whined about how the Americans would hide in forests and stage guerrilla attacks - rather than forming ranks and fighting a pitched engagement like civilized people."  By and large the majority of the  battles during the Revolutionary War were pitched engagements...a notable exception being the guerilla warfare taken up by Americans in some of the southern colonies.

Like I said, if I have time later I will show you how the premise of your argument is full of holes...I seriously doubt you have read 1/6 of the literature I have on the Rev War.  

As for this revealing gem, "imperial forces that are raping his women, killing his children, and stealing his shit. So I won't waste time on that."....wow.  So American forces are raping women, killing children, and stealing his (the Iraqi's) shit???  American forces would not be there anymore if the Iraqi's themselves werent doing these things you name to each other at a barbaric pace.  That you can even believe that more than a few degenerates in the US Armed Forces would do any of these things tells me how warped your worldview is. You obviously have no experience in dealing with the US military or how quickly you would get thrown under the bus exhibiting this kind of behavior.  American soldiers killing children...they are not fanatical islamists or nazi death squads...they go out of their way to protect these kids.

One last thing for now: the Kurds as the Indians?   I know that comparison fits well into your little list, but it doesn't make sense on any level.  Even the biggest US critic recognizes that the Kurds are our steadfast ally and staunchest supporter; the Indians in the US Revolution were solidly on the British side, with some exceptions.  THey felt the British were their best chance to hamper American expansionism.

Would the Americans have won the Revolutionary War much faster if they had gone with 90% guerilla warfare?

I contend:  Hell yes.

[Thin Lizzy]

During the Revolutionary War, the British always whined about how the Americans would hide in forests and stage guerrilla attacks - rather than forming ranks and fighting a pitched engagement like civilized people. They were quite frustrated by the inability of their superior conventional forces to prevail against a fluid domestic resistance. And thanks to some material support from France, we made the war too costly for them to sustain at such a distance from the heart of their empire. They went home and we were free to get down to the business of killing Indians and making money.

I'm sure you're not getting it yet, so I'll draw you a diagram...

Then                  Now
-----                 ----

The British          The Americans
The Americans     The Iraqis
The French          The Iranians
The Indians         The Kurds

Now I know that you're never going to accept the premise that some dirty brown-skinned sand-ni@@er with a crazy name who speaks gibberish instead of English might be as passionate and sincere in wanting to get rid, by any means necessary, of the imperial forces that are raping his women, killing his children, and stealing his shit. So I won't waste time on that.

But I will ask you to reflect on the central point in my little analogy...

The British lost.

We, too, are going to lose. It's an historical inevitability. [Of course, as Dr. Rice demonstrated recently, history is not the neocons strong suit.]

I'd like us to acknowledge that inevitability and end the war now before more people on both sides are killed for no fucking purpose.

Once again, when put in an indefensible position, you respond with overly long nonsensicle drivel, complete with accusations that U.S soldiers are rapists. And don't point out a few isolated incidents either. According to your logic, Americans are rapists, because there are rapes committed by Americans every year.

And save the "Your not getting it" crap. I've dealt with people way brighter than you.

The bottom line is that your analogy is absurd:

Hiding in forrests is not the same as hiding behind women and children, and in Mosques.

[ToxicAvenger]

What I think is interesting is that if they give their lives for their country, they're a terrorist.

If you give your life for yours... you're a patriot... Kinda fucked up if you ask me.

<GASP>

you r anti american..   

[ribonucleic]

Once again, when put in an indefensible position, you respond with overly long nonsensicle drivel

Option 1: Whine and bitch about it.

Option 2: Stop reading and replying to my posts.

Hope this helps.

[Thin Lizzy]

Option 1: Whine and bitch about it.

Option 2: Stop reading and replying to my posts.

Hope this helps.

I'll go with Option 3:

Point out the many flaws and holes in your logic, shoot down your arguments with undeniable facts as I did with your "The Unemployment Rate is really higher" argument, and then watch you pout like a little girl at a supermarket check-out line, whose mommy just told her that she couldn't have that Snickers bar.

[ribonucleic]

I'll go with Option 3

Would that option also include learning how to spell the word "nonsensical"?

If so, I'm all for it.