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RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« on: March 06, 2007, 09:14:55 PM »
Today my old man receved a call from Skandor Akbar saying that Ray Stern passed away.  This is very sad he is always at all of the wrestling reunions.

Ray "Thunder" Stern, who died early Tuesday morning at age 74, may have been the greatest of all professional wrestling's self-made men. "The Million Dollar Man" had nothing on the success of Stern, from aviation to bodybuilding to real estate.

The title of his autobiography kind of says it all -- Power of Thunder: The Rags to Riches Story of One Man's Adventure of Fame, Fortune, Romance & Fitness (Wolff Creative Group, 1994).

Born Walter Bookbinder in Brooklyn, New York on January 12, 1933 to a cab driver and a homemaker, he grew up in modest surroundings. "We lived in a small apartment," Stern told the The Dallas Morning News in 2005. "Eight members of my extended family and I all lived there, with only one bathroom for all of us." He developed a love of reading, especially about far-off places.

Bookbinder joined the Merchant Marines at the age of 13 under the name Paul Davis. It was there that he fell in love with bodybuilding -- legend has it that Stern would carry a pair of 50-pound dumbbells in his duffel bag for impromptu workouts.

"I broke into wrestling in 1950 at age 17 in New York City, working for Rudy Dusek. The only thing bigger than wrestling in those days was Milton Berle, so I quickly became a 'star,'" Stern told Lou Thesz' biographer Kit Bauman. "I worked five nights a week, two of them on TV, and everyone thought I was a celebrity -- except my parents. I was making $10 a match, and half of that seemed to go for travel. My parents couldn't figure it out, how come I was this 'star' and wasn't bringing home enough money to carry my share. 'You're a bum,' my dad used to tell me."
 

Bookbinder would wrestle for 16 years, first under his real name, and then under his mother's maiden name, Stern. The nickname? "I became known for these spectacular aerial maneuvers in the ring," Stern told the Dallas newspaper. "So my promoters nicknamed me 'Thunder.'"

In California, he met Joe Gold of Gold's Gym fame, and another well-known workout guru, Armand Tanny. They would be a heavy influence on Stern, and convince him that his riches would lie in California.

On the west coast, Stern would get into bodybuilder further, befriending other future pro wrestlers like Pepper Gomez and Fritz Von Goering. During his career, he would hold versions of the World and Tag Team titles. In the early days of Roy Shire's San Francisco promoter, Stern would battle Ray Stevens at the top of the cards.

"I wrestled for 16 years and really can't say why I stayed in it so long. When Claire (his second wife) and I got married, I knew that I wanted roots, a home life, so I announced that I was retiring. Then I got to looking around at my situation; here I was driving a new Cadillac with gold wire-rim wheels and wearing these sharp clothes and being treated like a celebrity, and it came to me that I couldn't do anything that would enable me to live that same quality of life. So I stayed in wrestling another 10 years," Stern told Bauman. "We used to sit around and laugh at the squares -- you know, the people working a 9-to-5 and busting their ass for a house in the suburbs and making insurance payments and going to some nowhere place for two weeks a year in the summer. Living a routine. Ugh!"

Away from the ring, Stern was a pioneer in the health club field, and opened America's first co-ed gym in San Francisco with his then-wife Clare, and first health club with a nursery so parents could exercise. The money he made in the fitness field allowed him to further enhance his financial situation through real estate and rental properties.
"My discipline for fitness and body building has always provided me with the competitiveness, and drive, needed for my successes," Stern told BestAreoNet.com.

Up until recently, Stern and grappling great Red Bastien would still get together on a regular basis to workout when both were in Dallas.

The main passion of Stern's life was flying. He first learned to fly in the early 1950s, taking two weeks' worth of lessons in Tampa, Florida. Shortly thereafter, he bought a Bellanca Cruise Air, and when he was ready to upgrade, Stern got a Beechcraft Twin Bonanza. The planes allowed him to expand his wrestling work, traveling the continent for bouts.

"He maintains a heavy schedule of bouts on the East coast," explained a 1961 promo for Stern in a Hillsdale, Calif., newspaper. "Wrestling one night, flying his own plane, returns in time the following day to conduct business in Hillsdale."

"The Twin Bonanza was followed by a succession of Cessna 310s, Aero Commanders and Riley Rockets -- even a DeHaviland Dove. Ray also developed an interest in aerobatic flying," explained the BestAreoNet.com website. "He bought two Czechoslovakian aerobatic airplanes and traveled to Czechoslovakia five times to train with their national aerobatic champions. His aerobatic flying reached a level that allowed him to be named as a backup for the world aerobatic championships."

He found a home in Dallas, and created Stern Air out of Addison Airport. The charter flight service had the ability to switch from cargo to passenger to air ambulance quickly. Stern also developed a reputation of being able to get the job done, and was called upon for difficult flights to the Middle East or El Salvador.

In 2000, Stern was honoured by his peers with the Iron Mike Mazurki Award at the Cauliflower Alley Club reunion in Las Vegas; the award was created to celebrate wrestlers who succeeded outside of professional wrestling.
In 2005, Stern received the Senator Hugh Farley New York State Awards from the Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame and Museum. At the induction weekend, Stern raved about seeing old friends again, like Canadian Billy Two Rivers, whom he hadn't seen in 51 years. "I was back talking to him yesterday like it was 51 hours ago," Stern said.

Stern raved about the city of Amsterdam, NY, and the efforts of the PWHF. "I have been all over the world, many, many times, but the respect, the appreciation, that is being shown here to the wrestlers is beyond anything I truly have ever imagined," Stern said. "It's just overwhelming to be treated this way. It's beyond anything that I could have imagined."

He admitted that his wrestling days were well in the past, and joked about his own declining mobility. "I've been trying to tell my wife for eight years what a great athlete I was. 'Oh, you're so clumsy, you're the clumsiest thing! You break everything in the house, you can't get out of your own way, you're just helpless!'" Stern said. "Red tried to help me, but she won't believe Red Bastien. So we coming here, I hope that maybe Debi will be convinced — I've been telling her for eight years that I was a great athlete."

In an email announcing her husband's passing, his wife Debi said, "Ray will be remembered for so many of his accomplishments and his incredible spirit, drive and dedication to anything he set out to achieve. He was a very unusual man with visions and the energy and know how to make things happen. He lived life to its fullest and I am fortunate to have had the most perfect marriage for 10 amazing years to the most wonderful man on earth. Ray left pieces of himself in all our hearts. Thank you for the love and support you have given us."





http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2007/03/06/3704134.html


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Re: RIP Ray Stern
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2007, 09:18:57 PM »
So Ted DiBiase totally ripped off the "Million Dollar Man" thing, huh?

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Re: RIP Ray Stern
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2007, 09:20:27 PM »
Stern was a cool old cat. He would stop by Gold's Venice from time-to-time. Always real friendly. Nice guy for sure. He also always had a young hottie on his side. :)

RIP.
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Re: RIP Ray Stern
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2007, 09:21:43 PM »
So Ted DiBiase totally ripped off the "Million Dollar Man" thing, huh?

that i"m sure was not Dibiade's idea, but my old man was one of the guys who broke him in to the business

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Re: RIP Ray Stern
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2007, 09:25:19 PM »
Bad News Brown also passed today.


The Wrestling Observer is reporting that former WWF star Bad News Allen (Bad News Brown) has passed away at the age of 63 from a heart attack. According to reports, Allen passed away this morning at 5:30am in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.

Tim Stein over at Wrestle Talk Radio, who had Allen on their show numerous times in Calgary, sent the following in:

"We here at WrestleTalkRadio.com are saddened to announce the passing of one of the all-time greats in professional wrestling, Allen Coage -- also known globally as Bad News Allen or Bad News Brown.

Allen Coage first gained recognition in the seventies when he became the first American to win a medal in judo at the Summer Olympics, held in Japan at that time. From there, Bad News became a major force in professional wrestling, working for Stu Hart's Stampede Wrestling in Calgary, Canada, and then wrestling as Bad News Brown in the WWF. His most notable feuds in WWF were with Bret Hart and Hulk Hogan, and Bret and Owen Hart in Stampede Wrestling.

Allen was checked into Calgary's Foothills hospital on Monday night after complaining of chest pains. He passed away this morning at 5:30 am, MST

He leaves behind a big family who was very supportive and proud of him, as well as friends and fans worldwide who respected, admired and adored him.

Funeral arrangements are pending, with services expected to take place early next week. We will keep you posted as more information becomes available.

We here at WTR wish to express our condolences to the family, friends, and fans of our great friend, "Bad News" Allen Coage."

http://www.wrestleview.com/news2006/1173235339.shtml
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Re: RIP Ray Stern
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2007, 09:25:35 PM »
HEY NOW!

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Re: RIP Ray Stern
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2007, 09:27:11 PM »
bad news brown also passed today

http://www.wrestleview.com/news2006/1173235339.shtml

ya i know out of all the wrestlers I have had the pleasure of being around I have never got the chance to meet him

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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2007, 09:38:32 PM »

That is truly sad to hear. At the 2006 Europa Bodybuilding Show, Ray Stern sat next to me in the press pit, and we talked quite a lot about his life, bodybuilding, his businesses, his wife Debi and his gold watch that he was wearing. The guy was pretty cool, and his wife Debi was judging that evening.

Sad to hear this...

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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2007, 09:59:25 PM »
Here are some pictures, I'll try and find more.

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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2007, 10:08:46 PM »
found this on line.  I am gonna go to my dads when I get off work tomorrow,and he see if he has pics from the last reunion here in Dallas

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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2007, 10:17:16 PM »
When I was a freshmen in high school on the wrestling team my dad got Stern to help me with my first training program. At the time he was still in very good shape,  now that I look  back on it, it was very basic.  I had no idea at the time who he was or his involvement in bbing.  I just new he was one of the old guys who wrestled when my dad did. 

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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2007, 10:18:36 PM »
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Re: RIP Ray Stern
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2007, 01:26:35 AM »
Stern was a cool old cat. He would stop by Gold's Venice from time-to-time. Always real friendly. Nice guy for sure. He also always had a young hottie on his side. :)

RIP.

That was his wife Debi-Lee Stern who was an IFBB fitness competitor. John Balik introduced them.

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Re: RIP Ray Stern
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2007, 01:28:44 AM »
That was his wife Debi-Lee Stern who was an IFBB fitness competitor. John Balik introduced them.


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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2007, 01:59:59 AM »
bump for Ray

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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2007, 02:46:58 AM »
Thanks for posting that Karl, cool read. I had the pleasure of sitting next to Ray through a show, I think 97 Arnold, my wife was competing in the fitness with Debbie, it was Amanda's first pro show and Debbie was really kind to her. Ray was awesome I talked to him all weekend and was inspired by him.

Ron, I took a photo of that watch, I will try to find it. It was the most extravagent thing I have ever seen.

RIP Ray Stern

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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2007, 02:53:48 AM »
At least he lived twice as long as most wrestlers these days.

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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2007, 06:17:51 AM »
At least he lived twice as long as most wrestlers these days.

RIP.



ya My dad is just one year older

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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2007, 09:45:54 AM »
I think I met him in Vegas one time.  I had heard of him before and knew about his gym in San Diego but never went there.  Sorry to hear about his passing.

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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2007, 09:50:51 AM »
rip

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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2007, 10:25:44 AM »
Ray Stern
January 12, 1933 - March 6, 2007
 
On March 6, 2007, Ray Stern, age 74, passed away after a brief illness surrounded by his loving wife Debi and numerous close friends. Ray left us with the same courage and iron will he displayed throughout his life.

Ray was born in Brooklyn, New York, and left home at the age of 13 to join the Merchant Marines and see the world. Later he traveled to southern California to pursue his interest in body building. He became a successful professional wrestler under the name of Ray 'Thunderr' Stern and held the title of World Heavyweight Wrestling Champion from 1956-1959. In 2006 Ray was inducted into the Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame in Schenectady, New York.
 
Ray opened the first coed health club in the United States in California and following its success he opened numerous others. He also became involved in the real estate business, owning apartments in California and Las Vegas. In the early 70b's he purchased a high rise apartment building in Oak Cliff known as Wedgwood Tower and moved to Dallas permanently. Later he opened Dallas' first premier health club known as Ray and Clare Sternb's Health Club on Forest Lane while he continued to pursue real estate development projects, including the development of the high rise condominium in north Dallas now known as the Bonaventure.
 
Ray was also heavily involved in the aviation industry having developed a hangar facility at Addison Airport where he operated a fleet of LearJets, flying charter and cargo. He subsequently acquired his pride and joy, a Hawker jet, in which he flew passenger charter under the name of WorldWide Jet. Ray flew many flights all over the world, captaining his last flight in December of 2006. Ray was also a world class aerobatic pilot and was named as an alternate on the US Team in pursuit of a world title.
 
Ray had friends from all walks of life, but he was particularly well known in the fitness industry and counted among his friends Jack LaLanne, Joe Weider and Joe Gold, three of the pioneers in the fitness industry. Ray was especially proud of his friendship with Jim Lorimer and his partner, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who together produce the Arnold Classic fitness competition in Columbus, Ohio for which his wife Debi has frequently served as a judge.
 
Ray is survived by his wife of ten years, Debi Lee Stern, and many long time friends whose visits and calls during Ray's illness were greatly appreciated.
 
In lieu of flowers, donations can be made in Ray's memory to the International Exotic Feline Sanctuary, P.O. Box 637, Hwy. 114 West, Boyd, TX 76023.

Debi Stern   
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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2007, 03:55:09 PM »
Found more pictures.


In California, he met Joe Gold of Gold's Gym fame, and another well-known workout guru, Armand Tanny. They would be a heavy influence on Stern, and convince him that his riches would lie in California.

On the west coast, Stern would get into bodybuilder further, befriending other future pro wrestlers like Pepper Gomez and Fritz Von Goering. During his career, he would hold versions of the World and Tag Team titles. In the early days of Roy Shire's San Francisco promoter, Stern would battle Ray Stevens at the top of the cards.

"I wrestled for 16 years and really can't say why I stayed in it so long. When Claire (his second wife) and I got married, I knew that I wanted roots, a home life, so I announced that I was retiring. Then I got to looking around at my situation; here I was driving a new Cadillac with gold wire-rim wheels and wearing these sharp clothes and being treated like a celebrity, and it came to me that I couldn't do anything that would enable me to live that same quality of life.

So I stayed in wrestling another 10 years," Stern told Bauman. "We used to sit around and laugh at the squares -- you know, the people working a 9-to-5 and busting their ass for a house in the suburbs and making insurance payments and going to some nowhere place for two weeks a year in the summer. Living a routine. Ugh!"



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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2007, 05:08:54 PM »
RIP Thunder......RIP Bad News as well.....nice to see some wrestlers living a nice long life....unlike today's so-called superstars.....Karl, I'm sure you've answered this a 1000 times but who was your dad?

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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2007, 05:50:54 PM »
Karl, I'm sure you've answered this a 1000 times but who was your dad?


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Re: RIP Ray 'Thunder' Stern
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2007, 08:34:18 PM »
I found some pictures of Killer Karl Kox!!!!!!!!!!!!