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Film Questions Michael Moore's Tactics
« on: March 11, 2007, 08:56:37 PM »
Shocking news, Michael Moore is a lying, hypocritical blowhard. This is shocking on the level of Newt Gingrich being a lying, hypocritical blowhard.

I love how he failed to mention in "Roger & Me" that he actually did meet with Roger Smith.

IMO the biggest shame of Michael Moore is that his films all deal with important topics and yet he chooses to twist and in some cases lie about these issues which in the end hurts the topic itself. 

Important issues demand open and honest questions and debate. They don't deserve propaganda.

http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20070312/D8NQB9600.html

By CHRISTY LEMIRE

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - As documentary filmmakers, Debbie Melnyk and Rick Caine looked up to Michael Moore.

Then they tried to do a documentary of their own about him - and ran into the same sort of resistance Moore himself famously faces in his own films.

The result is "Manufacturing Dissent," which turns the camera on the confrontational documentarian and examines some of his methods. Among their revelations in the movie, which had its world premiere Saturday night at the South by Southwest film festival: That Moore actually did speak with then-General Motors chairman Roger Smith, the evasive subject of his 1989 debut "Roger & Me," but chose to withhold that footage from the final cut.

The husband-and-wife directors spent over two years making the movie, which follows Moore on his college tour promoting 2004's "Fahrenheit 9/11." The film shows Melnyk repeatedly approaching Moore for an interview and being rejected; members of Moore's team also kick the couple out of the audience at one of his speeches, saying they weren't allowed to be shooting there.

At their own premiere Saturday night, the Toronto-based filmmakers expected pro-Moore plants in the audience heckling or trying to otherwise sabotage the screening, but it turned out to be a tame affair.

"It went really well," Melnyk said. "People really liked the film and laughed at the right spots and got the movie and we're really happy about it."

Moore hasn't commented publicly on "Manufacturing Dissent" and Melnyk thinks he never will. He also hasn't responded to several calls and e-mails from The Associated Press.

"There's no point for Michael to respond to the film because then it gives it publicity," she said.

"(President) Bush didn't respond to 'Fahrenheit 9/11,' and there's a reason for that," Caine added.

The two were and still are fans of all his movies - including the polarizing "Fahrenheit 9/11," which grossed over $119 million and won the Palme d'Or at the Cannes Film Festival - and initially wanted to do a biography on him. They traveled to his childhood home of Davison, Mich., visited his high school and traced his early days in politics and journalism.

"The fact that he made documentaries entertaining was extremely influential and got all kinds of people out to see them," said Melnyk, whose previous films with Caine include 1998's "Junket Whore.""Let's face it, he made documentaries popular and that is great for all documentary filmmakers."


"All of these films - 'Super Size Me,' 'An Inconvenient Truth' - we've all been riding in his wake," said Caine. "There's a nonfiction film revolution going on and we're all beneficiaries of that. For that point alone, he's worth celebrating."

But after four months of unsuccessfully trying to sit down with Moore for an on-camera interview, they realized they needed to approach the subject from a different angle. They began looking at the process Moore employs in his films, and the deeper they dug, the more they began to question him.

The fact that Moore spoke with Smith, including a lengthy question-and-answer exchange during a May 1987 GM shareholders meeting, first was reported in a Premiere magazine article three years later. Transcripts of the discussion had been leaked to the magazine, and a clip of the meeting appeared in "Manufacturing Dissent." Moore also reportedly interviewed Smith on camera in January 1988 at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in New York.

Since then, in the years since "Roger & Me" put Moore on the map, those details seem to have been suppressed and forgotten.

"It was shocking, because to me that was the whole premise of 'Roger & Me,'" Melnyk said.

She and Caine also had trouble finding people to talk on camera about Moore, partly because potential interview subjects assumed they were creating a right-wing attack piece; as self-proclaimed left-wingers, they weren't.

Despite what they've learned, the directors still appreciate Moore.

"We're a bit disappointed and disillusioned with Michael," Melnyk said, "but we are still very grateful to him for putting documentaries out there in a major way that people can go to a DVD store and they're right up there alongside dramatic features."


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Re: Film Questions Michael Moore's Tactics
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2007, 09:11:03 PM »
Moore is a douche, yes.

Some of the things he showed, he couldn't make up.  The somber Pres. bush talking about how he'll deal with terrorism.  Waiting 2 seconds.  Then giggleing about his golf game.

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Re: Film Questions Michael Moore's Tactics
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2007, 09:47:10 PM »
in bowling for columbine.. he took words from charleston heston movies, and put them in to change what he said at his speech at the nra convention in denver.. what a scumbag

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Re: Film Questions Michael Moore's Tactics
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2007, 09:49:05 PM »
I agree Rob, that's what I think is destructive about him. The topics he makes films about are incredibly important and don't need his twisting of facts and in some cases outright lies.

He's proven to be no better than the people he criticizes.

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Re: Film Questions Michael Moore's Tactics
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2007, 10:11:55 PM »
in bowling for columbine.. he took words from charleston heston movies, and put them in to change what he said at his speech at the nra convention in denver.. what a scumbag

yep. and that misleading bullshit where he carried the rifle out of the bank disgusted me.

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Re: Film Questions Michael Moore's Tactics
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2007, 02:57:56 AM »
It sickens me that Moore has made millions of dollars from his slanted, deceptive documentary movies.

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Re: Film Questions Michael Moore's Tactics
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2007, 03:20:35 AM »
As usual, ...it takes a pair of Torontonians to bring you the truth.  :P   ;)
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