Countries that allow homosexual people to serve openly in thier military

[OzmO]

Well she sounded slutty, and yes these shows do portray gays negatively. The yshow them to be flaming whining bitches. Would Will and Grace have "run it's course" if they hadn't showed 2 men kissing? And I provided causes for the decline. liberalism/homosexuality

no what you did was provide your opinion of the cause of the decline.

Give us the facts.

or do you not have any?

 

[militarymuscle69]

well she sounded slutty?


I guess the word gentlemen isn't taught where you come from.

Obviously "class" isn't.

Way to realize you have lost the argument and change the subject towards calling me classless

[240 is Back]

mm69, if you were going into a gun battle-

would you rather have 10 straight men at your side, or
10 straight men and 10 gay men?

No offense, but 1000 illiterate pricks with AKs have been whipping your 130,000 hi-tech asses for 4 years now, lets be honest here.  You should be thanking any help you can get, and put aside your own homophobia. 

[militarymuscle69]

mm69, if you were going into a gun battle-

would you rather have 10 straight men at your side, or
10 straight men and 10 gay men?

No offense, but 1000 illiterate pricks with AKs have been whipping your 130,000 hi-tech asses for 4 years now, lets be honest here.  You should be thanking any help you can get, and put aside your own homophobia. 

Obviously you didn't read the post "for all you skim readers"

[240 is Back]

Obviously you didn't read the post "for all you skim readers"

Bruce did this.  When asked a direct question, he didn't answer.  He told us to go read something on another thread.

Avoiding a direct question is a horrible thing to do - it shows you don't WANT to answer, it makes you look like you're running.  i respect your arguments more than that.  Bruce is irrelevant here because of it.

part of being a good message board debater is that you TAKE POSITIONS - something that pussy politicians don't do in real life.  So take one:

would you rather have 10 straight men at your side, or
10 straight men and 10 gay men?

[militarymuscle69]

Bruce did this.  When asked a direct question, he didn't answer.  He told us to go read something on another thread.

Avoiding a direct question is a horrible thing to do - it shows you don't WANT to answer, it makes you look like you're running.  i respect your arguments more than that.  Bruce is irrelevant here because of it.

part of being a good message board debater is that you TAKE POSITIONS - something that pussy politicians don't do in real life.  So take one:

would you rather have 10 straight men at your side, or
10 straight men and 10 gay men?

I'm not avoiding the question. You know I don't do that. I have posted my stance several times on several different posts. It takes alot of time to re type the same shit. But I have gotten smarter and started a word document so I can copy and paste the same answers to the same questions. So here you go, for the umteenth time is a detailed answer to your question.

I personally have no problem serving with gay men. I have several gay friends and could care less. I know that in the morning after PT when I am in the locker room, there is probably a gay man in there. I don't worry about him running buy and grabbing my ass or anything, and if the soap dropped I wouldn't worry about picking it up. That is how most of us feel, we know there are gays amongst us and we don't feel threatened by it. But it only takes 1 or 2 guys in a unit to not feel this way and the unit effectiveness will suffer. The first time 2 gay guys are sitting in the break room and start talking about taking it in the ass, or how they met this well hung dude over the weekend it will cause most of us to be uncomfortable. All of my gay friends know not to talk about their man love in front of me. It isn't the showering together, rooming together, sitting in a fox hole next to each other that is the issue in the military. It is having to listen to their gay experiences that is the problem. I know you all like to bash the military and think we are all cavemen but it isn't like that at all. This is not England, France, Canada or any other liberal country. Americans aren't as open about sexuality as they are, plain and simple. Just like you don't see nudity in commercials here in the US. That isn't going to change in our lifetime. Gays are welcome to serve next to me, (I actually I work with one right now.) but you are expected to keep your gayness to yourself. If you want to join the service as a gay man/woman and hang out at the gay bars on the weekend and take it in the ass you are welcome to. Just don'g get caught. Why can't that be good enough?   

[militarymuscle69]

boy it got quiet in here

[OzmO]

Way to realize you have lost the argument and change the subject towards calling me classless

you are the one who took a shot at my modding and i told you about 1 of only 2 incidents when i had to use my modding power....

that was when you called a woman a "slut"

which only shows how classless you are not to mention how much of a gentlemen you are not.

IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH, GO BACK TO THE BARRACKS AND CRY ABOUT.

otherwise build a bridge and get over it.

pathetic.

as for your bbc link,  at least back up your assertion the decline in birth rates is tie to liberalism or as i've suggested before....go back to your barracks and cry about it, but on your own time.


As for your stupid little easy trying to exonerate you from looking like a complete homophobe,  YOU ARE NOT FOOLING ANY ONE.

[240 is Back]

i agree there mm69.

there should be an unwritten law that if you talk about another dude's schlong, you get slapped in the head.  problem solved.  If these two gentlemen want slapped daily, keep it up  

Times like these, we need every man we can.

[militarymuscle69]

you are the one who took a shot at my modding and i told you about 1 of only 2 incidents when i had to use my modding power....

that was when you called a woman a "slut"

which only shows how classless you are not to mention how much of a gentlemen you are not.

IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH, GO BACK TO THE BARRACKS AND CRY ABOUT.

otherwise build a bridge and get over it.

pathetic.

as for your bbc link,  at least back up your assertion the decline in birth rates is tie to liberalism or as i've suggested before....go back to your barracks and cry about it, but on your own time.


As for your stupid little easy trying to exonerate you from looking like a complete homophobe,  YOU ARE NOT FOOLING ANY ONE.

Once again, I take your insults as a compliment because I shows me I have beaten you yet again. You have no further grounds to debate so you insult.

[OzmO]

Pathetic again, can't back up your mistake or atone for anything can you?

So instead of handling the truth you:

Once again, I take your insults as a compliment because I shows me I have beaten you yet again. You have no further grounds to debate so you insult.

you go back to this crap?

YOU BROUGHT IT UP, little one........   if you can't deal with it don't post.

Also did you skim rad this?

as for your bbc link,  at least back up your assertion the decline in birth rates is tie to liberalism or as i've suggested before....go back to your barracks and cry about it, but on your own time.

Or are you just avoiding it because you are a little bitch?

yeah thought so,  only a little bitch would arbitrarily call some one a slut.

go ahead keep running from it.

[militarymuscle69]

Pathetic again, can't back up your mistake or atone for anything can you?

So instead of handling the truth you:

you go back to this crap?

YOU BROUGHT IT UP, little one........   if you can't deal with it don't post.

Also did you skim rad this?

as for your bbc link,  at least back up your assertion the decline in birth rates is tie to liberalism or as i've suggested before....go back to your barracks and cry about it, but on your own time.

Or are you just avoiding it because you are a little bitch?

yeah thought so,  only a little bitch would arbitrarily call some one a slut.

go ahead keep running from it.

OzmO I know you are young and mentally challenged but even you can see the link between couples not having babies and liberalism right?

[OzmO]

OzmO I know you are young and mentally challenged but even you can see the link between couples not having babies and liberalism right?

is that all you have?

pathetic.

SHOW IT or shut up and go home.

[militarymuscle69]

is that all you have?

pathetic.

SHOW IT or shut up and go home.

there is no direct facts to why the population is declining. It is not something that can be proven factual. But even the scientists assume it is liberalism.

[militarymuscle69]

there is no direct facts to why the population is declining. It is not something that can be proven factual. But even the scientists assume it is liberalism.

However polls (and I know how you love those) have proven that liberals have fewer kids. So if you take the FACT that the birth rate is declining and the FACT that liberals bear less children....well even you can add 2 + 2

[OzmO]

there is no direct facts to why the population is declining. It is not something that can be proven factual. But even the scientists assume it is liberalism.

Oh so now we are NOT BRINGING FACTS?  sound familiar dip shi"p"?

lame,  so your reasoning/point is even more insignificant

[militarymuscle69]

Oh so now we are NOT BRINGING FACTS?  sound familiar dip shi"p"?

lame,  so your reasoning/point is even more insignificant

keep reading, I wrote a second set of FACTS while you were feverishly typing

[OzmO]

However polls (and I know how you love those) have proven that liberals have fewer kids. So if you take the FACT that the birth rate is declining and the FACT that liberals bear less children....well even you can add 2 + 2

oh so now you are taking stock in polls when it suits you?


A wuss and a hypocrite.  how rich.

[militarymuscle69]

oh so now you are taking stock in polls when it suits you?


A wuss and a hypocrite.  how rich.

no I never like polls. But this poll isn't based on opinions. It is a scientific study. Again way to name call when once again proven wrong.

[OzmO]

no I never like polls. But this poll isn't based on opinions. It is a scientific study. Again way to name call when once again proven wrong.

So now polls are ok?

Hypocrite.


At least show these polls.

 

[OzmO]

no I never like polls. But this poll isn't based on opinions. It is a scientific study. Again way to name call when once again proven wrong.

'
what's a matter little boy?

Can't handle name calling when it comes to you?

[ieffinhatecardio]

This is amazing, you two are fighting on three separate threads. Three threads dedicated to essentially the same subject and all of them multiple pages long. 

This place is rarely boring.

[militarymuscle69]

'
what's a matter little boy?

Can't handle name calling when it comes to you?

I love it when you call me names cause it shows weakness in your argument

[militarymuscle69]

So now polls are ok?

Hypocrite.


At least show these polls.

 

You are going to hate me for this OzmO but here are more FACTS

But the data on young Americans tell a different story. Simply put, liberals have a big baby problem: They're not having enough of them, they haven't for a long time, and their pool of potential new voters is suffering as a result. According to the 2004 General Social Survey, if you picked 100 unrelated politically liberal adults at random, you would find that they had, between them, 147 children. If you picked 100 conservatives, you would find 208 kids. That's a "fertility gap" of 41%. Given that about 80% of people with an identifiable party preference grow up to vote the same way as their parents, this gap translates into lots more little Republicans than little Democrats to vote in future elections. Over the past 30 years this gap has not been below 20%--explaining, to a large extent, the current ineffectiveness of liberal youth voter campaigns today.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008831


That way you'll maintain a fertility gap that already is invisibly working to guarantee the political right will outnumber the left by an ever-growing margin.

Over the past three decades, conservatives have been procreating more than liberals -- continuing to seed the future with their genes by filling bassinets coast to coast with tiny Future Republicans of America.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/09/17/INGEJL45D11.DTL



Are liberals in danger of becoming extinct? Demographer Phillip Longman says fertility trends are pointing us toward a more conservative future. He fills Linda Wertheimer in on his findings.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5288004

The last one from NPR has to hurt

[OzmO]

I love it when you call me names cause it shows weakness in your argument

Well you start calling people names right off the bat.  So you are weak to start or is it different for you?

You even started a threads calling people "Fools"

Pathetic.


Geez  you are getting real old now.