Countries that allow homosexual people to serve openly in thier military

[militarymuscle69]

Well you start calling people names right off the bat.  So you are weak to start or is it different for you?

You even started a threads calling people "Fools"

Pathetic.


Geez  you are getting real old now.

fools, if the shoe fits. And I called you a fool not others

[OzmO]

You are going to hate me for this OzmO but here are more FACTS

But the data on young Americans tell a different story. Simply put, liberals have a big baby problem: They're not having enough of them, they haven't for a long time, and their pool of potential new voters is suffering as a result. According to the 2004 General Social Survey, if you picked 100 unrelated politically liberal adults at random, you would find that they had, between them, 147 children. If you picked 100 conservatives, you would find 208 kids. That's a "fertility gap" of 41%. Given that about 80% of people with an identifiable party preference grow up to vote the same way as their parents, this gap translates into lots more little Republicans than little Democrats to vote in future elections. Over the past 30 years this gap has not been below 20%--explaining, to a large extent, the current ineffectiveness of liberal youth voter campaigns today.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008831


That way you'll maintain a fertility gap that already is invisibly working to guarantee the political right will outnumber the left by an ever-growing margin.

Over the past three decades, conservatives have been procreating more than liberals -- continuing to seed the future with their genes by filling bassinets coast to coast with tiny Future Republicans of America.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/09/17/INGEJL45D11.DTL



Are liberals in danger of becoming extinct? Demographer Phillip Longman says fertility trends are pointing us toward a more conservative future. He fills Linda Wertheimer in on his findings.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5288004

The last one from NPR has to hurt

Ok  finally,  and how does that relate to the topic thread exactly?

[militarymuscle69]

Ok  finally,  and how does that relate to the topic thread exactly?

It shows that the other countries accept gays in their military because they are more liberal than the US. You wouldn't take my word on them being more liberal so I had to prove that and that in turns shows that in the US gays wouldn't work.

[OzmO]

It shows that the other countries accept gays in their military because they are more liberal than the US. You wouldn't take my word on them being more liberal so I had to prove that and that in turns shows that in the US gays wouldn't work.

and how does it prove gays in our military wouldn't work?

[militarymuscle69]

and how does it prove gays in our military wouldn't work?

wow you are dense. Because we aren't a liberal country

[OzmO]

wow you are dense. Because we aren't a liberal country

We have to be a liberal country to have gays in the military?

[militarymuscle69]

We have to be a liberal country to have gays in the military?

You are more dense than I thought. You aren't seriously asking that question.

[OzmO]

You are more dense than I thought. You aren't seriously asking that question.

If you can't answer the question just say so.

[OzmO]

Here are the questions in case you forgot already:

and how does it prove gays in our military wouldn't work?

We have to be a liberal country to have gays in the military?

[militarymuscle69]

If you can't answer the question just say so.

Common sense tells you that a conservative military in a conservative country will not accept gays.

[OzmO]

Common sense tells you that a conservative military in a conservative country will not accept gays.

Aren't they already accepting gays?

[militarymuscle69]

Aren't they already accepting gays?

whoa, OzmO just lost it. Where have you been. Our whole debate is over the fact that they don't accept gays.  everyone that enlists is presumed straight. You are floundering

[OzmO]

whoa, OzmO just lost it. Where have you been. Our whole debate is over the fact that they don't accept gays.  everyone that enlists is presumed straight. You are floundering

are we having problems answer the question again?

Are you going to answer or not?

[militarymuscle69]

are we having problems answer the question again?

Are you going to answer or not?

"everyone that enlists is presumed straight" you must have skim read over my answer. So no the military doesn't accept gays....for the second time in three posts.

[OzmO]

"everyone that enlists is presumed straight" you must have skim read over my answer. So no the military doesn't accept gays....for the second time in three posts.

So there are no gays in the military as far it's leadership is concerned?

Or are there just no gays in the military?

[militarymuscle69]

So there are no gays in the military?

I have admitted the fact I work along side one. But if he was discovered he would be discharged. So for the 3rd time. The military doesn't accept gays

[OzmO]

I have admitted the fact I work along side one. But if he was discovered he would be discharged. So for the 3rd time. The military doesn't accept gays

So there are gays in the military, and people know about it?

So you are almost like an accomplice huh?

[militarymuscle69]

So there are gays in the military, and people know about it?

So you are almost like an accomplice huh?

guess you could say that. I might be accepting of him, but the military isn't. Don't try to spin things. Your original argument still falls flat

[OzmO]

guess you could say that. I might be accepting of him, but the military isn't. Don't try to spin things. Your original argument still falls flat

Ok so we've establish the fact there are gays in military.

Can we agree that more people like yourself know who they are?

[militarymuscle69]

Ok so we've establish the fact there are gays in military.

Can we agree that more people like yourself know who they are?

Stop the spin, the military doesn't accept gays. And even this dude. If I ever saw him kiss some dude, or listen to him talk about it. I would have to out him and he knows that.

[OzmO]

Stop the spin, the military doesn't accept gays. And even this dude. If I ever saw him kiss some dude, or listen to him talk about it. I would have to out him and he knows that.

Again,  if you can't answer the question just day so.

plus, are talking about being gay in the military NOT sexual displays of homosexuality.

So back to the questions:

Ok so we've establish the fact there are gays in military.

Can we agree that more people like yourself know who they are?

[militarymuscle69]

Again,  if you can't answer the question just day so.

plus, are talking about being gay in the military NOT sexual displays of homosexuality.

So back to the questions:

Ok so we've establish the fact there are gays in military.

Can we agree that more people like yourself know who they are?

sure people know. people know that people cheat on their wives also. The military doesn't condone it.

[OzmO]

sure people know. people know that people cheat on their wives also. The military doesn't condone it.

Ok  so we have do have gays in military and people know about it?

And if, yes, does the leadership refuse to acknowledge this?

[militarymuscle69]

Ok  so we have do have gays in military and people know about it?

And if, yes, does the leadership refuse to acknowledge this?

My Commander doesn't know. If he did he would have no choice but to do something about it. This man I work with isn't "openly" gay. he has told me in private conversations

[OzmO]

My Commander doesn't know. If he did he would have no choice but to do something about it. This man I work with isn't "openly" gay. he has told me in private conversations

Do you think your commanders and other commanders believe there are "no" gays in their military?