Countries that allow homosexual people to serve openly in thier military

[militarymuscle69]

Do you think your commanders and other commanders believe there are "no" gays in their military?

what a dumb question. I'm sure they assume there are, but can't do anything about it without proof. Just like they assume people are doing drugs but unless they fail a test they can't do anything. None of this proves your contention that the military accepts gays

[OzmO]

what a dumb question. I'm sure they assume there are, but can't do anything about it without proof. Just like they assume people are doing drugs but unless they fail a test they can't do anything. None of this proves your contention that the military accepts gays

but you have proved some very important things:


there are gays in our military and both the soldiers and the leadership know about it.

Sounds like it's about as close as you can get to open policy as possible without coming out and saying it.

Makes me wonder what all the hub bub is about.

And this is in...what did you say?  A conservative military and conservative country that's the best in the world.


Thanks for your participation MM69.

 

[militarymuscle69]

but you have proved some very important things:


there are gays in our military and both the soldiers and the leadership know about it.

Sounds like it's about as close as you can get to open policy as possible without coming out and saying it.

Makes me wonder what all the hub bub is about.

And this is in...what did you say?  A conservative military and conservative country that's the best in the world.


Thanks for your participation MM69.

 

Wrong as usual. Assuming that there are gays in the military isn't even close to "knowing". Like I have said and it has been proven by the fact that 11,000 military members have been booted since the enactment of don't ask don't tell that if a commander KNOWS that a person is gay they will be discharged. Aren't you tired of getting your ass kicked?

[OzmO]

Wrong as usual. Assuming that there are gays in the military isn't even close to "knowing". Like I have said and it has been proven by the fact that 11,000 military members have been booted since the enactment of don't ask don't tell that if a commander KNOWS that a person is gay they will be discharged. Aren't you tired of getting your ass kicked?

So there aren't gays currently serving in the military that commanders know about and you know about?


Or where you lying?

[militarymuscle69]

So there aren't gays currently serving in the military that commanders know about and you know about?


Or where you lying?

I know, the commander doesn't.

[OzmO]

I know, the commander doesn't.

but other commanders do?

what a dumb question. I'm sure they assume there are, but can't do anything about it without proof. Just like they assume people are doing drugs but unless they fail a test they can't do anything. None of this proves your contention that the military accepts gays

So you are saying they know some are gay but can;t prove it?

[militarymuscle69]

but other commanders do?

what a dumb question. I'm sure they assume there are, but can't do anything about it without proof. Just like they assume people are doing drugs but unless they fail a test they can't do anything. None of this proves your contention that the military accepts gays

So you are saying they know some are gay but can;t prove it?

what don't you understand? They assume that isn't the same as knowing

[OzmO]

what don't you understand? They assume that isn't the same as knowing

So you don't know if your co-worker is gay or not?

Are you just assuming he is?

[militarymuscle69]

So you don't know if your co-worker is gay or not?

Are you just assuming he is?

Holy cow...I KNOW, the commander doesn't. That is the 4th or 5th time I have answered that. Do you have a point or not?

[OzmO]

Holy cow...I KNOW, the commander doesn't. That is the 4th or 5th time I have answered that. Do you have a point or not?

yeah,  you made it for me.

there's gays in our military. 

In what did you say?

"A conservative country and conservative military where it wouldn't work"

I'm sure i'm miss quoting you because you said i can't provide facts...  so i used yours 

Thanks for participating 

[militarymuscle69]

yeah,  you made it for me.

there's gays in our military. 

In what did you say?

"A conservative country and conservative military where it wouldn't work"

I'm sure i'm miss quoting you because you said i can't provide facts...  so i used yours 

Thanks for participating 

Once again you are so wrong. You can't even use facts given to you correctly. In other countries, gays serve openly. Gays wouldn't be able to serve in our country openly because it is a conservative military in a conservative country. So try to spin it again.

[OzmO]

Once again you are so wrong. You can't even use facts given to you correctly. In other countries, gays serve openly. Gays wouldn't be able to serve in our country openly because it is a conservative military in a conservative country. So try to spin it again.

Are they serving with the knowledge of people like you and the knowledge of commanders?

this is what you said.

Are you lying?

[militarymuscle69]

Are they serving with the knowledge of people like you and the knowledge of commanders?

this is what you said.

Are you lying?

They are not serving with the knowledge of the commanders. Again assumption and knowing are different. And zero are serving openly

[OzmO]

They are not serving with the knowledge of the commanders. Again assumption and knowing are different. And zero are serving openly

you are confusing knowing with proving.

I';ll ask again:

Are you lying?

[militarymuscle69]

you are confusing knowing with proving.

I';ll ask again:

Are you lying?

Look you fucking idiot!!!! I KNOW that a gay man works here. The commander does not KNOW. Gays can't serve OPENLY in the military because it is a conservative military. What don't you get?

[OzmO]

Look you fucking idiot!!!! I KNOW that a gay man works here. The commander does not KNOW. Gays can't serve OPENLY in the military because it is a conservative military. What don't you get?

don;t get mad MM69  I'm only going from the from you said.

geez you rattle easy.

You said there are gays in the military.

And did you not say we are the best military in the world?

and did you not say some commanders assume some soldiers are gay?

And did you not say you use the UCMJ as your moral compass but you are letting a Gay person work right next to you and you're doing nothing about it?

Where you lying about all this?

[militarymuscle69]

don;t get mad MM69  I'm only going from the from you said.

geez you rattle easy.

You said there are gays in the military.

And did you not say we are the best military in the world?

and did you not say some commanders assume some soldiers are gay?

And did you not say you use the UCMJ as your moral compass but you are letting a Gay person work right next to you and you're doing nothing about it?

Where you lying about all this?

lying?? you are really reaching. Show me how those things support your theory that OPEN gays could serve in our military like other countries.

[OzmO]

lying?? you are really reaching. Show me how those things support your theory that OPEN gays could serve in our military like other countries.

If you know which means many other straight service men know like your self, and commanders know.  (Unless you were lying, which you haven't answered again.)

Then they already are, just without the title.



anything else?

[militarymuscle69]

If you know which means many other straight service men know like your self, and commanders know.  (Unless you were lying, which you haven't answered again.)

Then they already are, just without the title.



anything else?

I never said commanders KNEW so how can I be lying. and as proven by 11,000 discharges you can't openly serve.

[OzmO]

I never said commanders KNEW so how can I be lying. and as proven by 11,000 discharges you can't openly serve.

I was asking you if you were lying so you can clarify for me, not accusing you of lying.


So then all the gays are out of the military?

Or are there gays in the military?

yes or no

which is it?

[militarymuscle69]

I was asking you if you were lying so you can clarify for me, not accusing you of lying.


So then all the gays are out of the military?

Or are there gays in the military?

yes or no

which is it?

look prove a point or shut up.

[OzmO]

look prove a point or shut up.

Can't answer a question?

Just admit it then.

Are there gays in the military with the knowledge of others who are straight in the military?

yes or no?

Or were you lying?

[militarymuscle69]

Can't answer a question?

Just admit it then.

Are there gays in the military with the knowledge of others who are straight in the military?

yes or no?

Or were you lying?

OzmO...You idiot. This is the 7th time I have answered the question. there are no gays serving openly in the military to the commander's knowledge. 

[OzmO]

OzmO...You idiot. This is the 7th time I have answered the question. there are no gays serving openly in the military to the commander's knowledge. 

But there are gays yes or no?

And some commanders know but can't prove it?

yes or no?

[militarymuscle69]

But there are gays yes or no?

And some commanders know but can't prove it?

yes or no?

you asshole, for the 8th time. There are gays yes. No commanders don't know