Why is it?

[benjamin pearson]

Hahahah i should instantly listen to people who are bigger (fatter) then me.... you saw how far that got me last time. You guys are delusional fucks who know nothing.

Seriously.... you had a good transformation.... but holy fuck kiwi is twice your size...... even dieted down he would make you look like a girl

[SS]

Seriously.... you had a good transformation.... but holy fuck kiwi is twice your size...... even dieted down he would make you look like a girl

what transformation? he was skinnier

[Saxon]

I will grow faster lean then i will fat.

What is your rationale behind this?

[Buttsuck]

Seriously.... you had a good transformation.... but holy fuck kiwi is twice your size...... even dieted down he would make you look like a girl

I never said i was biggger then him dip shit. I admit every time we get in an argument he is bigger then me yet that some how seems to go through one ear and out the other. Start from page one and read the thread over. Epic reading comprehension.

[Buttsuck]

What is your rationale behind this?

Use your brain 

[benjamin pearson]

I never said i was biggger then him dip shit. I admit every time we get in an argument he is bigger then me yet that some how seems to go through one ear and out the other. Start from page one and read the thread over. Epic reading comprehension.

And he still looks better than you, you skinny little bitch

[Buttsuck]

And he still looks better than you, you skinny little bitch

Hahahah epic realization that you were wrong and trying to make one self feel better about it.

[The True Adonis]

Being small and ripped is useless as a man IMO. It gets you zero respect from anybody except other small ripped guys. The brutal truth is, when a guy like Kiwi is at the gym and needs to cut through a bunch of little guys to grab another 45, they part to the side like the sea did for Moses.
I have been on both sides of this debate, and let me tell you, it's much better to be big. People just respect you more and therefore make your life a lot easier.

If "Being Big" (including fat)is the only thing that gets you respect, you must be a mental midget.

Let me guess, you are a fat bouncer. hahahaha

[Dingleberry]

You would think so but you'd be wrong.

You do what you want, it's your life, you live it how you want. I have "been there and done that".
If you allow yourself to gain some fat, you will grow more than being lean. If your body  has a surplus of calories, it won't be afraid to make more muscle.
The human body tries it's best to be efficient, this is something you fight when you want to put on size. If you don't give it more than it needs, it will fight you til the end.
The reason many guys today stay so lean while growing is due to the wide range of pharmaceuticals they use. Back in the day, and for anyone not on such drugs, a bulk is the best way to make gains. I'm not saying you have to become a fat-ass, but you do need to get fatter than you currently are.
I will not argue this point, it's useless. You can either try it yourself and see, or just continue to think its bullshit and never explore other possibilities. The choice is yours.

[benjamin pearson]

Hahahah epic realization that you were wrong and trying to make one self feel better about it.

O brother.... you claim you are a better bodybuilder than kiwiol.... its bodybuilding not get as skinny as possible..... go to anorexia.com if this is what you call bodybuilding

[Buttsuck]

You do what you want, it's your life, you live it how you want. I have "been there and done that".
If you allow yourself to gain some fat, you will grow more than being lean. If your body  has a surplus of calories, it won't be afraid to make more muscle.
The human body tries it's best to be efficient, this is something you fight when you want to put on size. If you don't give it more than it needs, it will fight you til the end.
The reason many guys today stay so lean while growing is due to the wide range of pharmaceuticals they use. Back in the day, and for anyone not on such drugs, a bulk is the best way to make gains. I'm not saying you have to become a fat-ass, but you do need to get fatter than you currently are.
I will not argue this point, it's useless. You can either try it yourself and see, or just continue to think its bullshit and never explore other possibilities. The choice is yours.

I have tried it and i grow fast i feel leaner. Just my opinion.

[Saxon]

Use your brain 

Why do you think you will gain more muscle being lean than you would with additional bodyfat?  You are only going to gain 4/5 pounds of muscle a year at most, so what major difference is being lean going to make?  I'm interested to hear you theory.

[Buttsuck]

O brother.... you claim you are a better bodybuilder than kiwiol.... its bodybuilding not get as skinny as possible..... go to anorexia.com if this is what you call bodybuilding

I will be. Watch and see.

[The True Adonis]

You do what you want, it's your life, you live it how you want. I have "been there and done that".
If you allow yourself to gain some fat, you will grow more than being lean. If your body  has a surplus of calories, it won't be afraid to make more muscle.
The human body tries it's best to be efficient, this is something you fight when you want to put on size. If you don't give it more than it needs, it will fight you til the end.
The reason many guys today stay so lean while growing is due to the wide range of pharmaceuticals they use. Back in the day, and for anyone not on such drugs, a bulk is the best way to make gains. I'm not saying you have to become a fat-ass, but you do need to get fatter than you currently are.
I will not argue this point, it's useless. You can either try it yourself and see, or just continue to think its bullshit and never explore other possibilities. The choice is yours.

hahahaahahah "afraid" to make a muscle.....LOL so now the muscle has a separate stream of conciousness and is now a thinking entity?  You are saying he has to effectively coax a muscle gain by making it less scared?  hahahahhaa

[Buttsuck]

Why do you think you will gain more muscle being lean than you would with additional bodyfat?  You are only going to gain 4/5 pounds of muscle a year at most, so what major difference is being lean going to make?  I'm interested to hear you theory.

Ask any natural about bulking and they will tell you it is pointless.

[Dingleberry]

If "Being Big" (including fat)is the only thing that gets you respect, you must be a mental midget.

Let me guess, you are a fat bouncer. hahahaha

The brutal truth stinging TA like Tabasco in the eyes. hahahaha. I can just imagine the tear-filled heartache you feel when you get up for a drink of water and a big dude steals your machine. Hahahaha

[The True Adonis]

The VERY TOP LIFETIME NATURAL PROS all stay under 8 percent now. FACT.

[Saxon]

Ask any natural about bulking and they will tell you it is pointless.

But you still haven't explained why you think you are going to gain more muscle when you are leaner than when you have higher levels of bodyfat. There has to be a scientific rationale behind it, I'm interested in hearing it. Some people do actually come on this boards to learn.

[benjamin pearson]

The VERY TOP LIFETIME NATURAL PROS all stay under 8 percent now. FACT.

you built your muscle bulking... FACT..... now you tell buttsuck to stay low like you are now..... and he will never put on muscle

[IceCold]

this shot may explain TA's insanity.

how long did it take you to find this lighting and how many pics did you go through to find that "perfect" shot.

epic 16 inch arms.

epic waist and even more epic shoulder width.  

monstrous delusions whether you are fat or skinny.

i think your lousy genetics can explain your jealousy and insanity.

before when you were 'bigger', everyone who looked better than you was 'all drugs'.

no that you are lean, everyone bigger than you now is 'fat'.  

 

[Dingleberry]

The VERY TOP LIFETIME NATURAL PROS all stay under 8 percent now. FACT.

And none of them use IGF or HGH right? HAHAHAHAHA

[Buttsuck]

The brutal truth stinging TA like Tabasco in the eyes. hahahaha. I can just imagine the tear-filled heartache you feel when you get up for a drink of water and a big dude steals your machine. Hahahaha

If this is what you consider a big guy  

DUHHH YAA HE HURGE!!! 40 inch waist, 50 inch chest, massive 17 inch arms..... I love you people. The propotions are all wrong and off plus it looks terrible and feels bad. I remember when i was fat walking across a parking lot and being out of breath. I was always sweating and i had a double chin. Very akward feeling.

[kiwiol]

The VERY TOP LIFETIME NATURAL PROS all stay under 8 percent now. FACT.

I love how you try to act and sound like an authority on all things natural bodybuilding and dieting . Too bad you and your followers all look like shit run over twice

[kiwiol]

If this is what you consider a big guy 

DUHHH YAA HE HURGE!!! 40 inch waist, 50 inch chest, massive 17 inch arms..... I love you people. The propotions are all wrong and off plus it looks terrible and feels bad. I remember when i was fat walking across a parking lot and being out of breath. I was always sweating and i had a double chin. Very akward feeling.

So according to you, the only alternate to being as lean as you are is the guy shown in that pic below? You continue to prove how incredibly clueless and naive you are

[Dingleberry]

DUHHH YAA HE HURGE!!! 40 inch waist, 50 inch chest, massive 17 inch arms..... I love you people. The propotions are all wrong and off plus it looks terrible and feels bad. I remember when i was fat walking across a parking lot and being out of breath. I was always sweating and i had a double chin. Very akward feeling.

You are going to extremes here, I never said you had to be that fat. That's overkill.