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TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« on: March 22, 2007, 08:20:21 AM »
Eat a diet of 100% trans fats (zero protein, zero carbs, zero unsaturated/saturated fats) and see if you can still be healthy and ripped. You can eat exactly the same number of calories as you are now.

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2007, 08:42:15 AM »
A calorie is a Calorie.

A Macronutrient is not a Macronutrient. 


It is infeasible to construct such a diet and you could not meet the RDA,DRI guidelines. 

For optimal health, I advise to meet these guidelines.

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2007, 08:53:49 AM »
A calorie is a Calorie.

A Macronutrient is not a Macronutrient. 


It is infeasible to construct such a diet and you could not meet the RDA,DRI guidelines. 

For optimal health, I advise to meet these guidelines.

You can add in the macronutrients if you want, so try it where 75% come from transfat. Let us know how it works!  ::)

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2007, 09:25:17 AM »
A calorie is a Calorie.

A Macronutrient is not a Macronutrient. 


It is infeasible to construct such a diet and you could not meet the RDA,DRI guidelines. 

For optimal health, I advise to meet these guidelines.

That makes no sense!

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2007, 09:51:03 AM »
OK Starting today I am going to eat 2000 cals of whey protein and donuts.  3 meals with a total of 80 gr protein with the rest of the cals from donuts. I will be shredded in 12 weeks.  ;D

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2007, 09:51:35 AM »
is eating shit ok?
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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2007, 09:56:46 AM »
OK Starting today I am going to eat 2000 cals of whey protein and donuts.  3 meals with a total of 80 gr protein with the rest of the cals from donuts. I will be shredded in 12 weeks.  ;D
You would be shredded.

Make sure you are getting the RDA,DRI first.  Whatever food that gets you there and whatever food meets your caloric requirement without exceeding your limit.  2000 calories will do.


You will be ripped in time, depending on how fat you are.  I have seen a few pics and you are pretty obese, so it will take you a while.

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2007, 12:28:36 PM »
is eating shit ok?

Yea its fine, so you're okay.  So now you know just to scoop it out of the water you are washing your plates and body in to save time.  Good for you!  No more making a special trip to the outhouse for a snack.  I bet you're happy you could never afford a flushing toilet.  All that wasted food going down the drain.  Good job Shadow, things are looking up for you.  hahahaha

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2007, 12:31:29 PM »
So how long will the transfat diet take to get you ripped?  ::)

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2007, 12:31:52 PM »
Yea its fine, so you're okay.  So now you know just to scoop it out of the water you are washing your plates and body in to save time.  Good for you!  No more making a special trip to the outhouse for a snack.  I bet you're happy you could never afford a flushing toilet.  All that wasted food going down the drain.  Good job Shadow, things are looking up for you.  hahahaha
blua blah blah blah...you do know that pigs are born in in the dirtiest of places..lol
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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2007, 12:33:17 PM »
You would be shredded.

Make sure you are getting the RDA,DRI first.  Whatever food that gets you there and whatever food meets your caloric requirement without exceeding your limit.  2000 calories will do.


You will be ripped in time, depending on how fat you are.  I have seen a few pics and you are pretty obese, so it will take you a while.

TA is correct. calorific deficit is key to losing weight, obtain RDA,DRI then get the calories.

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2007, 12:35:27 PM »
blua blah blah blah...you do know that pigs are born in in the dirtiest of places..lol

whats your point?....... do you eat the skin on a banana?
are you delusional?

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2007, 12:36:55 PM »
whats your point?....... do you eat the skin on a banana?
:-\..do you eat raw meat? :P
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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2007, 12:40:05 PM »
TA is correct. calorific deficit is key to losing weight, obtain RDA,DRI then get the calories.

OK, so prove it. Replace every calorie in that "deficient" diet with transfats except those you need to meet the rda/dri (even though these two "standards" don't match each other).

Seriously: good luck.

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2007, 12:41:08 PM »
So a 10 grams of cocaine or Draino is the same as 10 grams of whey protein?  ???
what?? ???
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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2007, 12:42:12 PM »

what about the mc donald diet only?
are you delusional?

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2007, 12:43:36 PM »
what?? ???

Shadow it is.  So go ahead and start drinking Drano.  DO you even know what that is?  I was just thinking you don't have sewer systems where you live.  Sorry, keep eating the shit, you're doing fine.

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2007, 12:45:28 PM »
Shadow it is.  So go ahead and start drinking Drano.  DO you even know what that is?  I was just thinking you don't have sewer systems where you live.  Sorry, keep eating the shit, you're doing fine.
damn why are pigs so dirty..the love being in the sewer..i always see you in the most shittiest of shit areas feeding on shit..damn pig jones you're one filthy pig
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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2007, 12:48:15 PM »
How many grams of protein in a rat?  ;D


lucky if they find one......... they are almost gone...... it's buffet frenzy every night!
are you delusional?

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2007, 12:49:47 PM »

lucky if they find one......... they are almost gone...... it's buffet frenzy every night!
its a well known fact that americans enjoy 'scat porn' alot..so i guess you like eating alot of shit :P :P
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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2007, 12:51:33 PM »
wel its known fact that americans enjoy 'scat porn' alot..so i guess you like eating alot of shit :P :P

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...... (silence)  :-\ don't tell anyone  :-[ , damn your good  ::)
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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2007, 01:16:39 PM »
You would be shredded.

Make sure you are getting the RDA,DRI first.  Whatever food that gets you there and whatever food meets your caloric requirement without exceeding your limit.  2000 calories will do.


You will be ripped in time, depending on how fat you are.  I have seen a few pics and you are pretty obese, so it will take you a while.

Funny how all this RDA crap you came up with all of the sudden came up AFTER I started calling you out on the micros that are involved with planning someones diet, dude, if you want to teach you all you have to do is ask :-\!

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2007, 01:22:37 PM »

yeah he changed his mind a little bit....

what about the mc d diet only TA?
are you delusional?

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2007, 02:31:10 PM »
You would be shredded.

Make sure you are getting the RDA,DRI first.  Whatever food that gets you there and whatever food meets your caloric requirement without exceeding your limit.  2000 calories will do.


For those who keep bagging on Adam.....here is your answer...

Dietary protein requirements in athletes

Peter W. R. Lemon Corresponding Author Contact Information

Kent State University, USA

Received 21 October 1996;  accepted 27 November 1996.  Available online 9 February 1998.


Abstract

Current dietary protein requirements were determined using essentially sedentary individuals and, therefore, are designed for the general population. Unfortunately, the recommendations from these studies have been applied to athletes as well. Because of the vast differences in daily energy expenditure alone this would seem to be a naive approach. Moreover in recent years, considerable evidence has accumulated on athletes, primarily those involved at each end of the exercise intensity-duration continuum, i.e., strength (weight lifting) to endurance (running, cycling, or swimming), suggesting that dietary protein needs may be greater by as much as 125% in comparison to sedentary individuals. The additional protein may be necessary for use as an auxiliary fuel for endurance exercise and as a supplementary source of amino acids to build and/or maintain the large muscle mass present in those who strength train. In addition, although more speculative, it is possible that other constituents in high quality protein sources, i.e., creatine, conjugated linoleic acid, carnosine, etc. may also be beneficial. Definitive dietary recommendations for various athletic populations must await further study, but the mass of current evidence indicates that individuals involved in strength/power/speed activities may benefit from intakes of about 1.7 to 1.8 g protein · g body mass−1 · day−1 (approximately 112–125% higher than the sedentary recommendation) and those who participate in endurance activities from about 1.2–1.4 g · kg−1 · d−1 (approximately 50 to 75% higher than the sedentary recommendation). Assuming total energy intake is sufficient to cover expenditure, these intakes can be obtained from a diet consisting of about 10% energy intake as protein. Some athletes may not consume this amount of protein, especially those who consume inadequate energy (dieters or those trying to maintain an arbitrary body mass for their activity, i.e., gymnasts, dancers, wrestlers, etc.), those who are growing (children, adolescents, women who are pregnant), or those who select diets which may exclude high quality protein sources (vegetarians and seniors). Despite the common practice of consuming greater amounts of protein (2–4 g · kg−1 · d−1) among strength athletes in particular, few data exist suggesting that this has any further benefit, i.e., there appears to be a ceiling effect. Finally, the concerns expressed routinely about liver or kidney problems with high protein diets have little scientific support; however, the easy accessibility of individual amino acid supplements poses a potentially serious threat because there are likely a variety of confounding interactions and the effects of mega doses of single amino acids are largely untested. Future studies are needed to fine tune these recommendations.

Meaning that you are to take in 1.7 - 1.8gm of protein per Kilogram of body mass.....or 0.8gm of protein per pound of weight.

Adam...I am going to take a week off from training next week and I MAY just try this.  Only because I am traveling and it will be much easier to get food in me.

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Re: TA: The true test of "a calorie is a calorie"
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2007, 02:33:27 PM »
You would be shredded.

Make sure you are getting the RDA,DRI first.  Whatever food that gets you there and whatever food meets your caloric requirement without exceeding your limit.  2000 calories will do.


You will be ripped in time, depending on how fat you are.  I have seen a few pics and you are pretty obese, so it will take you a while.

tell me you didn't just give advices to one of the best prep guy in the USA