Author Topic: Capoiera (Read 3726 times)

metalruler · « **on:** March 23, 2007, 09:24:29 AM »

Guys what are ur views on Capoiera...is it a fancy martial arts like TKD or is it lethal if used properly??

Petrucci · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2007, 09:43:26 AM »

Quote from: metalruler on March 23, 2007, 09:24:29 AM

Guys what are ur views on Capoiera...is it a fancy martial arts like TKD or is it lethal if used properly??

well, im brazilian so i can speak a little i think LOL

since the guys have a great athletic physique, of course they can do some damage with high kicks and so on, but its not a 'real' fight ...i mean, it doesnt have real fighting situations (like muay thai). it does have very little punches if it has at all...Its more like a kind of athletic 'dance' then a martial art, (im not taking his credits...just stating the facts)

Scimowser · « **Reply #2 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:41:29 AM »

great to watch or use in a film fight scene, but very impractical in a real life situation IMO

americanbulldog · « **Reply #3 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:59:48 AM »

It does offer broken rythm. But weak on the hands, no grappling, no clinch. So unless the practicioner is a high level fighter fighting against a low level fighter, no, I don't think it is practical.

Bindare_Dundat · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2007, 10:58:32 AM »

Its great for breakdancing battles.

dootle · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2007, 11:16:56 AM »

I think it is foolish and has no real use in fighting(probably good exorcise though)..

Parker · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2007, 12:22:11 PM »

Wasn't it banned in the 1920's in Brazil because a group fighters used to wear razors on their feet? Plus the fact that they used Capoeira against soldiers successfully, so anybofy caught practicing Capoiera was put to death.

dootle · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2007, 12:28:54 PM »

Quote from: Parker on March 24, 2007, 12:22:11 PM

anybody caught practicing Capoiera was put to death.

don't know if that is true, but sounds like a good idea

Petrucci · « **Reply #8 on:** March 26, 2007, 09:32:00 AM »

Quote from: Parker on March 24, 2007, 12:22:11 PM

Wasn't it banned in the 1920's in Brazil because a group fighters used to wear razors on their feet? Plus the fact that they used Capoeira against soldiers successfully, so anybofy caught practicing Capoiera was put to death.

im not an expert, so dont quote me on this...

for what i know, the slaves that where brought from Africa to here did have a kind of 'fight' or martial art...But the owners of lands and things like that would not allow this (training i mean), killing anyone who tried to train, because of course they where afraid of a riot or something like that...

so the slaves started to put the moviments of the fight in a kind of 'dance' with music and so on, so when other people look at it, it looks like a dance, but in fact was a way for them to still train their 'martial art' without anyone notice it...then the Capoeira was born

GRACIE JIU-JITSU · « **Reply #9 on:** March 27, 2007, 03:21:09 PM »

Quote from: Petrucci on March 26, 2007, 09:32:00 AM

im not an expert, so dont quote me on this...

for what i know, the slaves that where brought from Africa to here did have a kind of 'fight' or martial art...But the owners of lands and things like that would not allow this (training i mean), killing anyone who tried to train, because of course they where afraid of a riot or something like that...

so the slaves started to put the moviments of the fight in a kind of 'dance' with music and so on, so when other people look at it, it looks like a dance, but in fact was a way for them to still train their 'martial art' without anyone notice it...then the Capoeira was born

100% right.

Nathan · « **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2007, 10:11:46 AM »

You have to realize Karate TKD etc... were all effective in their day. But this is a different world you run into all the styles and get all the info on all arts! Thats why MMA proved certain styles are out dated and certain styles need to be modified and or combined with other styles that fill in weak points.
Think about this what are the chances of a dude in Brazil running in to a Kung Fu master?
Now adays you can run into all styles this is why MMA is now more effective, but you must combine the right arts!

Parker · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2007, 06:20:48 AM »

I just watched about 15 vids of Capoeira on Dailymotion.com The athleticism is unbelievable, and the moves are tight as hell. That requires some serious eye hand co-ordination, limberness, and you get a serious workout.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2007, 11:59:50 AM »

Quote from: Parker on March 31, 2007, 06:20:48 AM

I just watched about 15 vids of Capoeira on Dailymotion.com The athleticism is unbelievable, and the moves are tight as hell. That requires some serious eye hand co-ordination, limberness, and you get a serious workout.

Great workout, yes. Functional in combat, NO.

Parker · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2007, 01:36:48 PM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on March 31, 2007, 11:59:50 AM

Great workout, yes. Functional in combat, NO.

True, I noticed that. But i did see a couple leg sweeps and takedowns. I'm thinking about finding a Capoeira school. But they are few and far between in Maryland.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2007, 11:31:44 PM »

Quote from: Parker on March 31, 2007, 01:36:48 PM

True, I noticed that. But i did see a couple leg sweeps and takedowns. I'm thinking about finding a Capoeira school. But they are few and far between in Maryland.

If you want a helluva workout plus learning functional stand up and clinching skills just find a Muay Thai school instead.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #15 on:** April 01, 2007, 12:14:59 AM »

Quote from: Petrucci on March 26, 2007, 09:32:00 AM

im not an expert, so dont quote me on this...

for what i know, the slaves that where brought from Africa to here did have a kind of 'fight' or martial art...But the owners of lands and things like that would not allow this (training i mean), killing anyone who tried to train, because of course they where afraid of a riot or something like that...

so the slaves started to put the moviments of the fight in a kind of 'dance' with music and so on, so when other people look at it, it looks like a dance, but in fact was a way for them to still train their 'martial art' without anyone notice it...then the Capoeira was born

Quote from: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on March 27, 2007, 03:21:09 PM

100% right.

Also the reason why there very little hand movement was because the Art had to be taught for defense when your hands were bound tight (They were slaves after all)

Parker · « **Reply #16 on:** April 01, 2007, 11:22:56 AM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on March 31, 2007, 11:31:44 PM

If you want a helluva workout plus learning functional stand up and clinching skills just find a Muay Thai school instead.

I've thought about that, but I've always been intrigued by Capoeira. The moves, and sway, and the rythm. Found two schools near me. One school offer BJJ and Muay Thai as well (Yamasaki Academy). I'm interested in maybe training Capoeira and incorporating BJJ in it as well. How this hybrid would work is a question

americanbulldog · « **Reply #17 on:** April 01, 2007, 05:45:09 PM »

Carpoiera and BJJ wouldn't mix to well.

Parker · « **Reply #18 on:** April 02, 2007, 05:17:46 AM »

One might have to adapt and use BJJ grappling when one sweeps the opponents leg

. I'm speculating now, but I'm going to ask and do research.

Petrucci · « **Reply #19 on:** April 02, 2007, 05:42:43 AM »

Quote from: Parker on April 02, 2007, 05:17:46 AM

One might have to adapt and use BJJ grappling when one sweeps the opponents leg . I'm speculating now, but I'm going to ask and do research.

if you want to learn some technique to use in a real fight situation, forget capoeira....But if you want flexibility, athletic endurance, learn how to do some really incredible flying kicks and so on, and of course learn an incredible source of aerobical workout, capoeira its for you.

Parker · « **Reply #20 on:** April 02, 2007, 04:44:52 PM »

Quote from: Petrucci on April 02, 2007, 05:42:43 AM

if you want to learn some technique to use in a real fight situation, forget capoeira....But if you want flexibility, athletic endurance, learn how to do some really incredible flying kicks and so on, and of course learn an incredible source of aerobical workout, capoeira its for you.

As of right now, yes, this is what I want to do. I want ot learn, got nothing but time...

Petrucci · « **Reply #21 on:** April 03, 2007, 05:56:49 AM »

Quote from: Parker on April 02, 2007, 04:44:52 PM

As of right now, yes, this is what I want to do. I want ot learn, got nothing but time...

so, what are you waiting for???

americanbulldog · « **Reply #22 on:** April 03, 2007, 03:10:02 PM »

Quote from: Parker on April 02, 2007, 05:17:46 AM

One might have to adapt and use BJJ grappling when one sweeps the opponents leg . I'm speculating now, but I'm going to ask and do research.

Jinga and shooting don't mix.

Parker · « **Reply #23 on:** April 03, 2007, 03:41:46 PM »

Quote from: Petrucci on April 03, 2007, 05:56:49 AM

so, what are you waiting for???

A new job, and a move

Nathan · « **Reply #24 on:** April 05, 2007, 06:06:59 AM »

Capoiera would still work against untrained fighters, and most street thugs are untrained (If they don't have the discipline to keep a job, or live there dreams, there most likely not gonna last in a gym) Some dealers etc.. know boxing, Kickboxing and MMA, but they usually don't walk around creating heat for them self's. So I'd say it might still work but You have to be aware it's not the end all. Also you need to know weapons, cowards like to use em a lot, even if they don't know how to.