Former NORAD/Military Officer Comes out for 9/11 Truth

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Patriots Question 9/11 has a brand new entry on a former air defense expert and expert on jet turbines. His statements about the lack of interception of the hijacked jets is important. His bio for the 2006 primary for Oregon's 2nd District congressional race is here (page 12)

I take no position on what crashed at the Pentagon, and it is possible that Captain Davis has simply not seen all of the relevant photographs.

Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

* Statement to this website 3/23/07:

"As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."

[gordiano]

"Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".


You're out of your mind, Rob, just like this guy......

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the plane at the pentagon didn't take the path they said, and it didn't drop as low as they said.  You will see this in 2-3 years - they are already proving the angles and NTSB data, someone just needs to put it all together.

[The Enigma]

"Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Something to ponder......when PGA golfer Payne Stewart's Lear jet went off it's flight plan, military jets were "scrambled" within 10 mins after going of course. The jets proceded to follow Stewart's plane until it unfortunately crashed........away from the public.

How did 757 jumbo jets go off course for over an HOUR.........with no scramble?

Thing's that make you go .........hummmmmmm? 

[Cavalier22]

the hijacked planes flew low....below radars

[The Enigma]

the hijacked planes flew low....below radars

Your saying 757's flew below the radar?? That is laughable.

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the hijacked planes flew low....below radars

You just made that up bro?

Please show us that info - cause it was nowhere in the 911 commission report and it was never reported.  Either you just made up that info, or it's the best kept secret of the last 5 years.

[The Enigma]

You just made that up bro?

Please show us that info - cause it was nowhere in the 911 commission report and it was never reported.  Either you just made up that info, or it's the best kept secret of the last 5 years.

Jumbo jets are only lost on air traffic radar........when they crash.

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Jumbo jets are only lost on air traffic radar........when they crash.

The original line was that "the terrorists turned off their transponders, making them invisible to US radar.

It's a good thing no foreign invader has ever thought to "turn off their transponders" to fool our advanced $400B air defense systems.

[The Enigma]

The original line was that "the terrorists turned off their transponders, making them invisible to US radar.

It's a good thing no foreign invader has ever thought to "turn off their transponders" to fool our advanced $400B air defense systems.

Why build Stealth aircraft...... if all an F-16 pilot needs to do is turn the transponder off?? 

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Why build Stealth aircraft...... if all an F-16 pilot needs to do is turn the transponder off?? 

Yep.  And even with grounded air traffic.

On 9/11, everything landed and there were only two planes in the sky in DC:

Flight 77, and the large white B2 which was seen circling at all 4 locations right upon the moment of impact.  It was filmed in DC, it was filmed in DC, and multiple witnesses put it in Penn.

Some folks believe it was AWAC coordinating the impacts.  Others believe that a large white plane circling impact sites during a no-fly time isn't important. 

[Cavalier22]

You just made that up bro?

Please show us that info - cause it was nowhere in the 911 commission report and it was never reported.  Either you just made up that info, or it's the best kept secret of the last 5 years.

Actually I just saw it last night on National Geographics two hour special on 9/11.  Several of the people from NEADS or FAA (I cant remember which one) said they couldnt track one (or all, or some?...I dont remember)  of the planes because of this.  I don't think it was secret as I'm pretty sure that video came out awhile ago.

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Actually I just saw it last night on National Geographics two hour special on 9/11.  Several of the people from NEADS or FAA (I cant remember which one) said they couldnt track one (or all, or some?...I dont remember)  of the planes because of this.  I don't think it was secret as I'm pretty sure that video came out awhile ago.

Can you post a source?

I thought the manifests all had them flying at 20k to 32k feet until descent on targets.  I'd like to learn more about this.

[Cavalier22]

I have it on my Tivo cuz one of my roommates wanted to watch it.....I would take a look at it again for you tomorrow probably. 

[kh300]

The original line was that "the terrorists turned off their transponders, making them invisible to US radar.

It's a good thing no foreign invader has ever thought to "turn off their transponders" to fool our advanced $400B air defense systems.

prior to 911 we didnt have a defense system within our borders.. the radars were pointed out -thats where an attack would likely come from.

i can outline all of the events of that day, and all of the evidence. you know the list

and what do you have? fake pitchers and youtube clips.. no evidence-nothing.. you know about all of the independent investigations, nothing has turned up. you know your 911 truth dorks are trying to find something. but what do they got- nothing. an event this large and all there you got is some photoshoped pictures? give me a fucking break with this shit..

former norad officer says he doesnt believe a plane hit the pentegon -wow casecraker. with everything that took place that day i find it hard to believe not one piece of evidence was left behind... i dont want to hear your excuse of further coverups, and interrogations, and just wait till bush is out... you know with billions of dollars the democrates have. guys like george sorrows, who donated a billion to get rid of bush, didnt attempt to speak on 911. maybee because theres nothing there. the republicans got all kinds of shit to get clinton out, but nothing for bush? if bush can silence everyone why not clinton?

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hey kh300,

if this eveidence is so bad, why are so many people- from all walks of life and all education levels - risking their reputation by coming fwd and calling it an inside job?

Fact is, you guys (the shrinking official story group) won't even debate evidence anymore.  All you say now is "It's unamerican to look at the evidence of 9/11".  In other words, it's unamerican to quesiton a narrative given to you by Bush, whose team benefitted greatly with the blank checks 911 gave them.

And please - your claim that I have photoshopped pictures and phony youtubes... that's weak, man.   If you ever watched these movies, you'd see they're all grabbed from CNN footage and very real. 

kh300, have you watched loose change?

[kh300]

how is it unamerican? id be the first one to execute the people responsible -if it was true. but im not an arrogant moron. theres evil people all over the place, i arrest evil people. does that mean im unamerican? i dont get it. if the mayer of nycity killed some of their figherfighters there would be riots in ny. the pd would use all their manpower to convict.

it amazes me how you people dont believe a word the government says, but loose change is fucking gospel. are you that thick headed? and keep in mind its not just the governments story, its every investigations story..and stop with we have evidence. you dont have shit. where is it? i can show you documents from professional investigations that give data and proof. theres nothing on your side but speculation.

answer this question. why was it so easy to get all of that evidence on clinton, but nothing on bush?

[Cavalier22]

9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11

[kh300]

240 common, im dying to hear your answer

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how is it unamerican? id be the first one to execute the people responsible -if it was true. but im not an arrogant moron. theres evil people all over the place, i arrest evil people. does that mean im unamerican? i dont get it. if the mayer of nycity killed some of their figherfighters there would be riots in ny. the pd would use all their manpower to convict.

it amazes me how you people dont believe a word the government says, but loose change is fucking gospel. are you that thick headed? and keep in mind its not just the governments story, its every investigations story..and stop with we have evidence. you dont have shit. where is it? i can show you documents from professional investigations that give data and proof. theres nothing on your side but speculation.

answer this question. why was it so easy to get all of that evidence on clinton, but nothing on bush?

keep your pants on.

Person #1 - the FAA supervisor who destroyed recordings of flight control personnel on the morning of 9/11.  He admitted to the 911 commission that he crushed the tape, then threw it away in various trash cans around the building.

Should he be charged with destroying evidence relevant to the investigation of 3000 deaths?

[kh300]

keep your pants on.

Person #1 - the FAA supervisor who destroyed recordings of flight control personnel on the morning of 9/11.  He admitted to the 911 commission that he crushed the tape, then threw it away in various trash cans around the building.

Should he be charged with destroying evidence relevant to the investigation of 3000 deaths?

answer the question