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A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« on: March 29, 2007, 05:44:50 AM »
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My chat with Mr. Lee Haney

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Well, after years of working out and dieting, I decided I have taken my routine as far as I can on my own. I came to the conclusion I needed an "expert" to look over my routine and diet, and make any necessary adjustments.

So after weeks of looking at the websites of gurus, trainers and so-called experts, I decided that Lee Haney was the man to talk to. Why Lee Haney?To put it in perspective, Dave Palumbo gets $150.00 for a half-hour phone consultation. 8-time Mr. Olympia, Lee Haney, charges $50.00. Hmmm. . . a hundred dollars less to talk to a guy who has actually won something? Seemed like a no-brainer to me.

Here's how it went down:

I sent Lee an email and explained I felt "stuck" in my present routine and wanted him to look it over for me and offer any advice he deemed useful. Lee requested pictures of all bodyparts and measurements first. You want to be humbled, fellas? Send an 8-time Mr. O pictures of yourself in your underwear. I also had to fill out a form on Lee's site detailing my current diet, supplementation, etc. So once he has all your pertinent info, and you pre-pay the $50.00 phone consultation fee, you get a call from the great Lee Haney himself. I have to say it was a thrill and an honor to hear his voice on the other end of my cell phone.

Okay, so then he gets down to business. A few myths Lee completely debunked:

1) fruit is absolutely fine. Lee advocates lots of pineapple and pears.
2) 1 gram of protein for every pound of "lean" body mass - not for every pound you weigh.
3) He has no use for creatine. He said it does nothing but volumize cells and cause water retention
4) He advocates Glutamine
5) Hit every bodypart twice per week - not once. He put me on a 3 on, 1 off training schedule


In 4 weeks, I'll take more pics, send him my measurements again, and do another half-hour on the phone.

For any of you who want your current routine looked at, I recommend you give Mr. Haney's website a look - www.leehaney.com.

I am not going to post the workout Lee crafted for me here. It would not be fair to Lee for me to hand out his training advice for free. For those who do not know, Lee has personally trained Evander Holyfield, Gary Sheffield, and Shannon Sharpe. FYI - Lee will not offer ANY advice or entertain any conversation regarding steroids, so don't ask. You're on your own there.

Overall, I'd say it's the best $50.00 you'll ever spend.
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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2007, 05:48:30 AM »
So if you are reading this correctly, because a lot of you fail to comprehend simple things, Lee Haney RECOMMENDS 1 gram of protein for every pound of "lean" body mass - not for every pound you weigh.

Since the Body is roughly 45-55 percent Muscle,  You will adjust your protein amount accordingly.

This PARALLELS what I advocate as far as protein consumption and falls PERFECTLY with the RDA,DRI amounts for Protein.

Very good info from Lee Haney here.


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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2007, 05:49:22 AM »
3 years ago i was in atlanta and trained at haney's gym, the animal kingdom.  He was there about to train himself, introduced myself, talked a few minutes and he asked what i was training and i told him chest and triceps.  He said 'well come on, lets train together'.

best hour and half in my life, he is over 50 and dear god he can still train like an animal.
I proudly wear my I TRAINED WITH LEE t-shirt a couple times a week when i trained because i actually trained with the 8 time olympia beast!
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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2007, 05:49:43 AM »
He would have been better off using Google the word " Diet"  ;)

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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2007, 05:50:38 AM »
nothing groundbreaking here
Adonis do you advocate glutamine?

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2007, 05:53:17 AM »
I saw Lee Haney on a public local TV station a few months ago. He was giving advice to a group of geriatric black women. I must say I got a laugh out of his "nutritional" advice.  ..... Among which he Promotes cherios and pinapple and canola oil along with 1/2 body weight squats to really "tone" the legs. ::)

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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2007, 05:53:58 AM »
and lee is right about creatine, its just a water retention supplement, fuck creatine.
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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2007, 05:54:03 AM »
I do disagree with Glutamine.  It is useless to supplement as it has no effect on protein synthesis.  Layne Norton Agrees as well:

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You have to use it in pretty high doses to get the desired effect. A lot of people just take 5 g's post-workout, which won't cut it. It gets pretty pricey, as you have to take about 20 g's a day.


no, dosing is not the issue. Studies have looked at 20g and above. No effect on protein breakdown or protein synthesis
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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2007, 06:02:00 AM »
I saw Lee Haney on a public local TV station a few months ago. He was giving advice to a group of geriatric black women. I must say I got a laugh out of his "nutritional" advice.  ..... Among which he Promotes cherios and pinapple and canola oil along with 1/2 body weight squats to really "tone" the legs. ::)

Oh yeah, i'm sure everyone would rather get advice from you instead of an 8 time olympia champion.  ROTFLMAO!
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2007, 06:41:04 AM »
Oh yeah, i'm sure everyone would rather get advice from you instead of an 8 time olympia champion.  ROTFLMAO!

Oh I agree with you there. 99% of the population are mindless sheep and will follow someone based SOLEY on their appearance. Not realizing that Haney won his shows because of 1) ELITE GENETICS and 2) HEAVY DRUG USE, NOT because of the way he trained and ate.
Honestly, I dont know anyone who would be impressed with 8 let along 1 Mr Olympia, hell most people dont even know what the "Olympia " is  :-\

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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2007, 06:44:25 AM »
I do disagree with Glutamine.  It is useless to supplement as it has no effect on protein synthesis.  Layne Norton Agrees as well:

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You have to use it in pretty high doses to get the desired effect. A lot of people just take 5 g's post-workout, which won't cut it. It gets pretty pricey, as you have to take about 20 g's a day.


no, dosing is not the issue. Studies have looked at 20g and above. No effect on protein breakdown or protein synthesis
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Interesting info Adam..... do you believe in a multi vitamin?

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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2007, 06:46:25 AM »
haney pwns coleman.


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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2007, 06:47:10 AM »
Interesting info Adam..... do you believe in a multi vitamin?
Adonis promotes the RDI.

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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2007, 06:48:02 AM »
Oh I agree with you there. 99% of the population are mindless sheep and will follow someone based SOLEY on their appearance. Not realizing that Haney won his shows because of 1) ELITE GENETICS and 2) HEAVY DRUG USE, NOT because of the way he trained and ate.
Honestly, I dont know anyone who would be impressed with 8 let along 1 Mr Olympia, hell most people dont even know what the "Olympia " is  :-\

HOpe this helps

Useless, negative tripe. Get over to the V board ASAP.

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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2007, 06:50:26 AM »
Haney sounds like a real nice guy; being able to train with him would be awesome, something i doubt most getbig knuckleheads would offer to do.

$50 sounds like an excellent investment, whereas adonis' info, who cares? ;D

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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2007, 06:51:05 AM »
3 years ago i was in atlanta and trained at haney's gym, the animal kingdom.  He was there about to train himself, introduced myself, talked a few minutes and he asked what i was training and i told him chest and triceps.  He said 'well come on, lets train together'.

best hour and half in my life, he is over 50 and dear god he can still train like an animal.
I proudly wear my I TRAINED WITH LEE t-shirt a couple times a week when i trained because i actually trained with the 8 time olympia beast!
wow.thats cool story though!

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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2007, 06:58:02 AM »
Lee Haney RECOMMENDS 1 gram of protein for every pound of "lean" body mass - not for every pound you weigh.

So, you have spent the last 2 years or more on here-and prior to that you were on MM before you BANNED- telling everyone that all professional BBers are ALL DRUGS. As well as talking about how you're the strongest natural bber and can lift this or that.
Now, you do an about face, and take advice from someone that you yourself consider to be ALL DRUGS, and most likely has no idea what he is talking about since he doesn't know how to train properly without gear?

That's good Adam. I'll hand it to you, if anything, you at least keep your material fresh. But you're still a douche bag.

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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2007, 06:59:02 AM »


Okay, so then he gets down to business. A few myths Lee completely debunked:

1) fruit is absolutely fine. Lee advocates lots of pineapple and pears.
2) 1 gram of protein for every pound of "lean" body mass - not for every pound you weigh.
3) He has no use for creatine. He said it does nothing but volumize cells and cause water retention
4) He advocates Glutamine
5) Hit every bodypart twice per week - not once. He put me on a 3 on, 1 off training schedule



lol...so he debunked those myths?


i agree with the use of glutamine....other than that i would consider it a waste of 50 bucks.

although haney is a legend so talkin to him about his bodybuilding career for 30mins would be pretty cool.

i would leave the training n nutrition part to the experts.

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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2007, 07:00:30 AM »
Haney seems like an awesome guy, I don't think he does it really for the money cause he could charge much more as others actually do. I would have to say he would know a great deal about training and nutrition being an 8 time Mr. O, he doesn't have to be an expert but he could def help anyone who is a beginner or stuck in a rut. I think it's awesome he would help so much for so little, I have had multiple people ask me if I could write out diets for them or training programs for anywhere from $20-$100+. Some people really need help getting the basics down and the fact that Lee is willing to do it and be professional about it while charging much less then most professionals charge shows allot about Lee and his generosity.
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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2007, 07:01:56 AM »
Haney sounds like a real nice guy; being able to train with him would be awesome, something i doubt most getbig knuckleheads would offer to do.

$50 sounds like an excellent investment, whereas adonis' info, who cares? ;D



OMG I FUCKING AGREE WITH YOU :o :o :o
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Re: A RECENT MEMBERS Consultation with LEE HANEY
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2007, 07:02:16 AM »
So, you have spent the last 2 years or more on here-and prior to that you were on MM before you BANNED- telling everyone that all professional BBers are ALL DRUGS. As well as talking about how you're the strongest natural bber and can lift this or that.
Now, you do an about face, and take advice from someone that you yourself consider to be ALL DRUGS, and most likely has no idea what he is talking about since he doesn't know how to train properly without gear?

That's good Adam. I'll hand it to you, if anything, you at least keep your material fresh. But you're still a douche bag.
::)

What the fuck are you talking about?

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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2007, 07:06:09 AM »
::)

What the fuck are you talking about?

Doesn't take a genius such as yourself to figure it out. I suppose that once you hit "post" you just completely forget what you have written.

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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2007, 07:07:47 AM »
Interesting info Adam..... do you believe in a multi vitamin?

No.  You do not need to supplement a regular diet at all.

There was a recent study that implicates Multi-Vitamins with various health problems and a Greater Death Risk, notably a shortening of lifespan.  Further studies are coming as a result.  Seems to be pretty interesting.


Vitamin supplements linked to early death

28th February 2007, 9:45 WST


 

  
Millions of people who take antioxidant supplements such as beta carotene and vitamins A and E may be putting their lives at risk rather than improving their health, according to a major review.
  
And a separate study has warned using supplements and complementary medicines to boost fertility may have the opposite effect.
  
Danish researchers suspect that by eliminating harmful free radicals in the body, anti-oxidants might interfere with essential defensive mechanisms and cause toxic reactions.
  
Writing in the Journal of the American Medical Association, doctors from Copenhagen University Hospital warn their findings contradict claims that anti-oxidant supplements improve health.
  
Their analysis of several studies into the effects of the supplements found vitamin A products increased the risk of death 16 per cent, while beta carotene and vitamin E increased the risk of death by 7 per cent and 4 per cent respectively.
  
But they said the jury was still out on whether vitamin C had a positive or negative effect on life expectancy
  
“Considering that 80-160 million people in North America and Europe consume these supplements, the public health consequences may be substantial,” the researchers warned. “Beta carotene, vitamin A and vitamin E, given singly or combined with other anti-oxidant supplements significantly increase mortality.”
  
Complementary Healthcare Council executive director Tony Lewis said it would review the findings but it appeared the research was based on high-level dosages not allowed in Australia.
  
“In Australia these products are regulated as medicines, so there are tight controls. The findings might not have the same relevance for us as for others,” he said.
  
In another shock finding, Australian fertility experts believe couples may actually be reducing their chances of having a baby by taking multivitamins and herbs.
  
Writing in the Australian and New Zealand Journal of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, they warn couples trying to have a baby to make sure they tell their doctor if they are taking alternative remedies because they can reduce the chances of conceiving.
  
Researcher Marcin Stankiewicz, from the Flinders Medical Centre, said he did not want to deter couples from using alternative therapies but it was important to document their use so doctors could study the effects on conception.
  
Dr Roger Hart, a reproductive medicine specialist at the University of WA and medical director of the Fertility Specialists of WA, said while the value of taking folate before conception to prevent birth defects was well known, the benefits of other complementary medicines remained unproved.

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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2007, 07:09:35 AM »
Lee Haney is a man of God.
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2007, 07:11:14 AM »


OMG I FUCKING AGREE WITH YOU :o :o :o

Who the f*** cares, from an know-all 16 year old with 6 months of training? LOL