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The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« on: March 30, 2007, 08:24:43 AM »


The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
More and more going public everyday with vital information and valuable expertise

Infowars.net | March 29, 2007   
Steve Watson

The leaking of the until now withheld WTC blueprints this week represents a growing trend of truth seeking individuals putting aside politics and coming forth in an attempt to set the record straight on the defining event of the 21st century.

Below is a by no means extensive list with links that represents how this 9/11 truth domino effect is gathering pace in all walks of life.

100 Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report - http://patriotsquestion911.com/

Around 130 Professors Question the 9/11 Commission Report - http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html

Over 100 9/11 Survivors and Family Members Question the 9/11 Commission Report - http://patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html

Over 70 Entertainment and Media Professionals who Question the 9/11 Commission Report -
http://patriotsquestion911.com/media.html

Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth are constructing their site now - http://ae911truth.org/

Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice - http://stj911.org/index.html

Pilots for 9/11 Truth - www.pilotsfor911truth.or g

Group of scientists, engineers and other professionals - http://physics911.net/

Many highly qualified legal scholars believe that the attacks may intentionally have been allowed to happen or even been actively aided and abetted by elements within the United States government:

John Loftus (Former Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan; former U.S. Army Intelligence officer; currently a widely-sought media commentator on terrorism and intelligence services). See http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/#Loftus

Francis Boyle, PhD, LLD (Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois, Champaign; a leading practitioner and advocate of international law; Boyle was responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention; Boyle served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia- Herzegovina at the World Court. He holds a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Boyle

Richard Falk (Professor Emeritus, International Law, Professor of Politics and International Affairs, Princeton University; in 2001 Falk served on the three-person UN Commission on Human Rights for the Palestine Territories, and previously, on the Independent International Commission on Kosovo). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Falk

Burns H. Weston (Bessie Dutton Murray Distinguished Professor of Law Emeritus and Director, Center for Human Rights, University of Iowa; Fellow, World Academy of Art and Science. Honorary Editor, Board of Editors, American Journal of International Law). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Weston

C. Peter Erlinder, former president of the National Lawyers Guild. See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Erlinder. and http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633.

Mark Conrad (Assistant Professor of Criminal Justice at Troy University; associate General Counsel, National Association of Federal Agents; Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs, responsible for the internal integrity and security for areas encompassing nine states and two foreign locations; former Federal Sky Marshall; 27-year U.S. Customs career). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Conrad

Horst Ehmke, PhD (Professor of Law, University of Freiburg; former Minister of Justice (West Germany)). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Ehmke

William G. Weaver, JD, PhD (Director of Academic Programs, Institute for Policy and Economic Development, University of Texas, El Paso, specializing in executive branch secrecy policy, governmental abuse, and law and bureaucracy; former U.S. Army Signals Intelligence officer; author of several books on law and political theory). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Weaver

Gerry Spence (famed trial attorney). See http://www.interlinkbooks.com/BooksN/New_Pearl_Harbor.html

William Veale, Former Instructor of Criminal Trial Practice, Boalt Hall School of Law, University of California at Berkeley 11-year teaching career. Retired Chief Assistant Public Defender, Contra Costa County, California 31-year career. See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Veale

"When you grow up in the United States, there are some bedrock principles that require concerted effort to discard. One is the simplest: that our leaders are good and decent people whose efforts may occasionally warrant criticism but never because of malice or venality... But one grows up. ... And with the lawyer's training comes the reliance on evidence and the facts that persuade... After a lot of reading, thought, study, and commiseration, I have come to the conclusion that the attacks of 9/11 were, in their essence, an inside job perpetrated at the highest levels of the U S government."

And of course the most important contributors to the 9/11 truth domino effect are the people.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/911_truth_domino_final_effect.htm
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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2007, 09:09:20 AM »
that is the scariest picture I have seen of the twin towers. Did that guy survive?

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2007, 09:18:28 AM »
that is the scariest picture I have seen of the twin towers. Did that guy survive?

that pic demonstrates some interesting physics.  The top chunk is definitely not falling straight down.

However, it *corrects* itself by taking the path of MOST resistance, thru a solid building, rather than toppling and choosing the path of least resitance, which would be the air.

THe only way this is possible is for the building to suddenly lose it's structural integrity, in a consisten, organized, and patterened way.  Explosives do this. 


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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2007, 09:30:29 AM »
that is the scariest picture I have seen of the twin towers. Did that guy survive?

I was thinking the same thing, that picture is just horrible. When I see stuff like this I start getting pissed off again and I start thinking the "nuke them all" thoughts.

Doing that on our land to our people, WTF.

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2007, 09:32:54 AM »
You guys must have way better monitors than me, cause I don't see a man anywhere in the picture.
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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2007, 10:56:53 AM »
that pic demonstrates some interesting physics.  The top chunk is definitely not falling straight down.

However, it *corrects* itself by taking the path of MOST resistance, thru a solid building, rather than toppling and choosing the path of least resitance, which would be the air.

THe only way this is possible is for the building to suddenly lose it's structural integrity, in a consisten, organized, and patterened way.  Explosives do this. 



"THe only way this is possible is for the building to suddenly lose it's structural integrity, in a consisten, organized, and patterened way.  Explosives do this."

You learned that during your days at MIT attaining you engineering degree? 
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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2007, 11:25:44 AM »
The pic doesn't look very patterned to me.

It looks like it's doing what the report said it did.

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2007, 11:47:16 AM »
The pic doesn't look very patterned to me.

It looks like it's doing what the report said it did.

The rest of the fall is completely uniform - level - as every floor gives way at the same level, just as the very asymmetrical load arrives.

If you want, late tonight or early tomorrow I can show you the 3 laws of physics that were violated - one involved the change of direction of this top chunk.  They're on goog video also.

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2007, 11:54:34 AM »
The rest of the fall is completely uniform - level - as every floor gives way at the same level, just as the very asymmetrical load arrives.

If you want, late tonight or early tomorrow I can show you the 3 laws of physics that were violated - one involved the change of direction of this top chunk.  They're on goog video also.

Sure.  I don;t know how much time i'll have tonite to get to it but send it.

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2007, 04:51:53 AM »
that pic demonstrates some interesting physics.  The top chunk is definitely not falling straight down.

However, it *corrects* itself by taking the path of MOST resistance, thru a solid building, rather than toppling and choosing the path of least resitance, which would be the air.

THe only way this is possible is for the building to suddenly lose it's structural integrity, in a consisten, organized, and patterened way.  Explosives do this. 


And you have some evidence that no one have done some creative editing to that picture? No, you do not have anything like that. Just rumors and more fake pictures. Do you have any idea what some pro editor can do just using some simple software like photoshop? How about using some real heavy duty editing software, which make photoshop look like a toy? No, you don't have any idea. It seem to me that you don't have any own ideas at all, you just copy/paste from other conversations...

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
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The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
More and more going public everyday with vital information and valuable expertise

Infowars.net | March 29, 2007   
Steve Watson

The leaking of the until now withheld WTC blueprints this week represents a growing trend of truth seeking individuals putting aside politics and coming forth in an attempt to set the record straight on the defining event of the 21st century.

Below is a by no means extensive list with links that represents how this 9/11 truth domino effect is gathering pace in all walks of life.

100 Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report - http://patriotsquestion911.com/

Around 130 Professors Question the 9/11 Commission Report - http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html

Over 100 9/11 Survivors and Family Members Question the 9/11 Commission Report - http://patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html

Over 70 Entertainment and Media Professionals who Question the 9/11 Commission Report -
http://patriotsquestion911.com/media.html

Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth are constructing their site now - http://ae911truth.org/

Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice - http://stj911.org/index.html

Pilots for 9/11 Truth - www.pilotsfor911truth.or g

Group of scientists, engineers and other professionals - http://physics911.net/

Many highly qualified legal scholars believe that the attacks may intentionally have been allowed to happen or even been actively aided and abetted by elements within the United States government:

John Loftus (Former Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan; former U.S. Army Intelligence officer; currently a widely-sought media commentator on terrorism and intelligence services). See http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/#Loftus

Francis Boyle, PhD, LLD (Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois, Champaign; a leading practitioner and advocate of international law; Boyle was responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention; Boyle served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia- Herzegovina at the World Court. He holds a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Boyle

Richard Falk (Professor Emeritus, International Law, Professor of Politics and International Affairs, Princeton University; in 2001 Falk served on the three-person UN Commission on Human Rights for the Palestine Territories, and previously, on the Independent International Commission on Kosovo). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Falk

Burns H. Weston (Bessie Dutton Murray Distinguished Professor of Law Emeritus and Director, Center for Human Rights, University of Iowa; Fellow, World Academy of Art and Science. Honorary Editor, Board of Editors, American Journal of International Law). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Weston

C. Peter Erlinder, former president of the National Lawyers Guild. See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Erlinder. and http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633.

Mark Conrad (Assistant Professor of Criminal Justice at Troy University; associate General Counsel, National Association of Federal Agents; Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs, responsible for the internal integrity and security for areas encompassing nine states and two foreign locations; former Federal Sky Marshall; 27-year U.S. Customs career). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Conrad

Horst Ehmke, PhD (Professor of Law, University of Freiburg; former Minister of Justice (West Germany)). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Ehmke

William G. Weaver, JD, PhD (Director of Academic Programs, Institute for Policy and Economic Development, University of Texas, El Paso, specializing in executive branch secrecy policy, governmental abuse, and law and bureaucracy; former U.S. Army Signals Intelligence officer; author of several books on law and political theory). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Weaver

Gerry Spence (famed trial attorney). See http://www.interlinkbooks.com/BooksN/New_Pearl_Harbor.html

William Veale, Former Instructor of Criminal Trial Practice, Boalt Hall School of Law, University of California at Berkeley 11-year teaching career. Retired Chief Assistant Public Defender, Contra Costa County, California 31-year career. See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Veale

"When you grow up in the United States, there are some bedrock principles that require concerted effort to discard. One is the simplest: that our leaders are good and decent people whose efforts may occasionally warrant criticism but never because of malice or venality... But one grows up. ... And with the lawyer's training comes the reliance on evidence and the facts that persuade... After a lot of reading, thought, study, and commiseration, I have come to the conclusion that the attacks of 9/11 were, in their essence, an inside job perpetrated at the highest levels of the U S government."

And of course the most important contributors to the 9/11 truth domino effect are the people.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/911_truth_domino_final_effect.htm

9/11 conspiracy theory is open for business, and above is a listing about the different parties who want to make some money from it. Every time you use one of those links, someone gets some money. Very simple and very efficient way to make some easy income using ignorance of the people as a tool.

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2007, 08:14:46 AM »
9/11 conspiracy theory is open for business, and above is a listing about the different parties who want to make some money from it. Every time you use one of those links, someone gets some money. Very simple and very efficient way to make some easy income using ignorance of the people as a tool.

Can you please tell me what happened to Building 7?
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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2007, 08:22:31 AM »
And you have some evidence that no one have done some creative editing to that picture? No, you do not anything like that. Just rumors and more fake pictures. Do you have any idea what some pro editor can do just using some simple software like photoshop? How about using some real heavy duty editing software, which make photoshop look like a toy? No, you don't have any idea. It seem to me that you don't have any own ideas at all, you just copy/paste from other conversations...

LOLOL!!!!!!!!!

That photo is very real.  AP, I believe. 

Seriously, THAT Is your defense, calling AP pics faked?

Oh geez, you blind loyalist. 

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2007, 10:47:41 AM »
that pic demonstrates some interesting physics.  The top chunk is definitely not falling straight down.

However, it *corrects* itself by taking the path of MOST resistance, thru a solid building, rather than toppling and choosing the path of least resitance, which would be the air.

THe only way this is possible is for the building to suddenly lose it's structural integrity, in a consisten, organized, and patterened way.  Explosives do this. 



The Law of Physics didn't apply to the WTC.......for some strange reason.

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2007, 03:52:07 PM »
LOLOL!!!!!!!!!

That photo is very real.  AP, I believe. 

Seriously, THAT Is your defense, calling AP pics faked?

Oh geez, you blind loyalist. 

You can believe anything what you want, but you still don't have any evidence if that picture is edited or not. Just about the guy who took the picture can answer that question, but you? No way in hell. In the internet nothing is what it look like. It may be real, or not. Try to get some prove....uhm...sorry...I forget: You don't deal with real evidence or prove anything, you have just rumors and useless shit like that. You have been ranting about this 9/11 thing for months, but what you have accomplish? Nothing. More than that, you have not been able to bring any hard evidence in these conversations, and just like a child, if somebody ask something from you, he doesn't get any answers from you, just more stupid questions which are based on rumors. If you are as smart as you claim to be, where is your evidence? Don't try to show some youtube shit or fake pictures, show us something new, something real, something which prove even one claim to be a fact.

And by the way; when you want to try to answer these very simple questions, which I have ask you like five times before, and you haven't been able to answer them:

Why there would be need for a biggest conspiracy in history of mankind, which would involved tens of thousands of participants, when you can make just same destruction and terror threat by planting just a ordinary bomb in those buildings and pay some rag head leader to take a blame for it. In real life you don't need a passenger jets, bombs and missiles, you need just a right amount of explosives, which you can easily plant in some skyscraper like that.  That you can accomplish with a small group of people, instead of gathering a tens of thousands of people to work for the plot.

Secondly: Why inside job with tens of thousands of participants, when you can manipulate some rag head leader with dollars to do all the work for you and take a blame for all of this? Believe or not, a passenger jet is a great weapon in right hands, as we have seen already. You don't need a missiles or bombs if you have few groups stupid enough to kill them self by flying toward the WTC buildings and pentagon.

Whole theory of yours is so fuc*king childish that it make me want to puke. There isn't any sense, no plot, no conception, just a little wanker who try to satisfy his desire to assert oneself by question this incident. You don't have a big picture, but instead of that, you grab some little fragment from here and there and try to get them look suspicious by lying and distorting truth. Your method is so lame, but do you know it? No way, but instead of that you clearly think you are clever when you doesn't give any answers, but  answer with new questions, just like a child who try to be clever. Every time when someone give you some well founded and reasonable argument, you pick up some fuc*king youtube piece of shit- videoclip from complete different fragment of this matter, and change the subject. You think this make you some kind of authority of the matter, but only thing what you gain about this, is that just about everyone think you are a stupid little wanker.   

Now, when you are just about so steamed up than you ever be, let's play little game based on this conspiracy theory. Let's call it "What do you need to make this happen?"

If you are some very very secret agency/party/whatever bunch of dribbling village idiots who want to start a war to get some oil from Saddam, what do you need? You need a plan, which is good, flawless and so fuc*king secret, that no one knows about it. What then?

1. You need to harness some air force unit work for the plot, because there is some bombing to do
2. You need to bribe employees of 3 to 5 commercial airfield, because there is some passenger jets involved.
3. You need to bribe crews of those planes, passengers, and their folks, and guys who plays the terrorist. You kill them in the end, so pay with checks.
4. You need to bribe some flying schools, because those guys who will be acting terrorist want some airtime and teaching in different countries.
5. You need to bribe just about whole air defence, because you want to fly here and there like planes have been hijacked
6. You need to bribe all secret services of all foreign countries who have satellite route over USA in that day, so they doesn't squeal your plot to the people
7. You need to bribe all seismographic units on the country, because they can recognize a bomb compared to collapsing building
8. You need to bribe all people of the pentagon just stand and look when the building is blown to pieces by some missile/bomb/aeroplane...or you shouldn't tell them anything, just let them die, no matter if they happened to be a part of the military which is making this plot in the first place.
9. You need to bribe taliban to make a statement where they claim to be guilty to this terrorist act
10. You need to bribe all TV stations and newsgroups to put out only that material, which you provide to them.
11. You need to bribe all eye witness and photographers not to publish anything but the material which you have provide to them to publish
12. you need to get all these tens of thousands of people keep these secrets to the grave, and somehow make them act as an single organism to make this plot comes true
13. You need to make four passenger jets flying here and there and finally crash the WTC buildings and middle of the field in middle of the nowhere.
14. You need to kill just about 3000 innocent americans while doing that
15. You need to accomplish bombing mission from highest altitude ever, because no one shouldn't be able to see those bombers. Not even the russian etc. satellites which are alerted by now because all the fuzz.
16. You need to accomplish xx bulls eye with those bombs, which is hard regarding that super high altitude.
17. You need to teach your bombs to act just another way around they have work before, because you want all buildings collapse outside in, not inside out which is characteristic to all bombs.
18. You need to get people all over the world to look your live and fake news feed just because you need more witnesses for your plot
19. You need to shoot that news feed 24/7, because you want to show every second of it to the world
20. You need to kill everyone involved, because your secret isn't safe until they are dead. There is no way in hell to keep that kind of secret, but kill everyone. You have tens of thousands of people who have participate in this plot, and every one is a potential informer.

What is probability to accomplish all this, or why don't we ask only right qestion: what is probability that there is someone who is so crazy, that he thinks that plot like that could be a succes? 

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2007, 04:12:46 PM »
Wow, you spent a half hour writing that, i'm impressed.

My answer to all of it is simple:  Money.

$2.3 trillion goes missing the day before 9/11 and the Pentagon plane "coincidentally" kills everyone who knew where that money went.

$50 to $75 trillion dollars is under Iraq right now.  9/11 allowed us to invade Iraq.  Our companies and by proxy tax revenue profit greatly.  And, we keep Chi and Rus from touching that oil.



That is $26.7 BILLION dollars for every life lost on 9/11.

i believe on a utilitarian level, the decision makers believed it was worth it.

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2007, 04:33:01 PM »
240, explain to us how those 20 things could have been avoided.

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2007, 04:49:51 PM »

1. You need to harness some air force unit work for the plot, because there is some bombing to do
Our military does black ops.  They do what they're told to do.  They could have done something, or they could have just stood down while a private firm did what we saw that day.  A simple standdown makes the most sense.

2. You need to bribe employees of 3 to 5 commercial airfield, because there is some passenger jets involved.
An FAA supervisor destroyed recordings and everyone was gagged.  you do the math ;)

3. You need to bribe crews of those planes, passengers, and their folks, and guys who plays the terrorist. You kill them in the end, so pay with checks.
Why would you need to bribe ANYONE on those planes?  The pricks slashed their way to the cockpit and globalhawk remote took over.

4. You need to bribe some flying schools, because those guys who will be acting terrorist want some airtime and teaching in different countries.
Look up who owned those schools ;)  Some of the pilots trained at an FBI school.

5. You need to bribe just about whole air defence, because you want to fly here and there like planes have been hijacked
Again, no.  You have to get a small group of people in key positions to stand down.  2.3 trillion and promise of permission for order of nat'l security buys that.

6. You need to bribe all secret services of all foreign countries who have satellite route over USA in that day, so they doesn't squeal your plot to the people
Why?  Several of them HAVE called it an inside job.  our media labels them to be maniacs.

7. You need to bribe all seismographic units on the country, because they can recognize a bomb compared to collapsing building
have you looked at the seismic data?  larges blasts 10 and 14 seconds before the buildings are hit, just as the witnesses said about the basement.  Hmmmmmmmm

8. You need to bribe all people of the pentagon just stand and look when the building is blown to pieces by some missile/bomb/aeroplane...or you shouldn't tell them anything, just let them die, no matter if they happened to be a part of the military which is making this plot in the first place.
I don't understand your sentence.  Cheney told an aide the orders stood.  Take that as you will.

9. You need to bribe taliban to make a statement where they claim to be guilty to this terrorist act
Taleban NEVER took blame, dummy.  You'rejust making this up.  They officially warned us about the upcoming attack on sept 9, 2001.  And they offered Osama up.  Even Bush said we're bombing them NOT for 9/11, but for harboring the guys who did it.  You should read more, dude.

10. You need to bribe all TV stations and newsgroups to put out only that material, which you provide to them.
No you don't.  Media ran by the same firms that build war toys.  Common interest and just play along.

11. You need to bribe all eye witness and photographers not to publish anything but the material which you have provide to them to publish
No you don't.  Media ran by the same firms that build war toys.  Common interest and just play along.

12. you need to get all these tens of thousands of people keep these secrets to the grave, and somehow make them act as an single organism to make this plot comes true
Nope.  100 - 200 people could have pulled off 9/11. 

13. You need to make four passenger jets flying here and there and finally crash the WTC buildings and middle of the field in middle of the nowhere.
April 1, 2001 - globalhawk remote control on Boeing tested and worked like a charm.

14. You need to kill just about 3000 innocent americans while doing that
Our nation took control of $80 trillion dollars because of those 300 deaths.  Something tells me to them, its worth it.

15. You need to accomplish bombing mission from highest altitude ever, because no one shouldn't be able to see those bombers. Not even the russian etc. satellites which are alerted by now because all the fuzz.
coulda been explosives that put that hole in WTC6

16. You need to accomplish xx bulls eye with those bombs, which is hard regarding that super high altitude.
coulda been explosives that put that hole in WTC6

17. You need to teach your bombs to act just another way around they have work before, because you want all buildings collapse outside in, not inside out which is characteristic to all bombs.
bombs don't have characteristics in this case.  Their placement and position do.  Learn the difference.  Where you place them controls how it falls.

18. You need to get people all over the world to look your live and fake news feed just because you need more witnesses for your plot
Huh?

19. You need to shoot that news feed 24/7, because you want to show every second of it to the world
Huh?  One guy accidentally caught the first hit.  Everyone was watching the hole when plane #2 arrived.  The pentagon won't release it's 85 copies of the hit.

20. You need to kill everyone involved, because your secret isn't safe until they are dead. There is no way in hell to keep that kind of secret, but kill everyone. You have tens of thousands of people who have participate in this plot, and every one is a potential informer.
100 to 200 people could have done it all.


Finally, I understand 911 from a util. mindset.  I know no one will ever do time for it.  I just like to argue it because some pipsqueaks will argue something they haven't researched, and they're incredibly naive, as you are, Gfinn.

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2007, 05:01:21 PM »
im to lazy to argue all of them. but
#1. military people have come forward with evidence all the time
#2. your talking about one person, but what about the tsa, and the rest of the faa. you know if one of those screeners stoped one of the terrorists, and the whole plan would have been destroyed.

#3 - what about the people that made the phone calls to family members?

#4 - they trained at a school in florida that has nothing to do with the fbi.

what do you say about this guy, whos one of the biggest bush haters in the world,, just look at some of his other videos. but even he isnt stupid enough to believe this shit
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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2007, 05:29:20 PM »
hey kh, you're kinda irrelevant, so I don't wanna spend too much time with you.

But if you and I ever sat down, I would dismantle you.  I mean, fcking own you to the floor.  you're a simple bastard, and you are wrong on 3/4 of those above, but it's really not worth arguing.  I no longer care about converting a dumb shit like you to 911 truth.  you've been exposed, and supporting bush is more important to you than the truth.  So go suck an egg. HTH :)

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2007, 05:34:11 PM »
hey kh, you're kinda irrelevant, so I don't wanna spend too much time with you.

But if you and I ever sat down, I would dismantle you.  I mean, fcking own you to the floor.  you're a simple bastard, and you are wrong on 3/4 of those above, but it's really not worth arguing.  I no longer care about converting a dumb shit like you to 911 truth.  you've been exposed, and supporting bush is more important to you than the truth.  So go suck an egg. HTH :)

how did you 2 digress to this?

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2007, 05:43:27 PM »
how did you 2 digress to this?

i'm bored debating 911.  cats refuse to address certain points when they don't have an answer, wont' asnwer Qs.  I will answer anything.  but damn, I am so sick of guys refusing to take positions. 

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2007, 05:49:31 PM »
i'm bored debating 911.  cats refuse to address certain points when they don't have an answer, wont' asnwer Qs.  I will answer anything.  but damn, I am so sick of guys refusing to take positions. 

i think that if you purely attacked from the angle of needing another investigation to shore up the inconsistancies and pinpoint areas and persons of incompetence you'd have more productive debates.

What seems to block much of it is you using things like the hologram theory to cast doubt on the official story.

I think of the people who you debate 9/11 here with only a few would not welcome a second investigation.  Many of the questions you have are valid questions.  It's your conclusions they disagree with.

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« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2007, 07:53:26 PM »
You can believe anything what you want, but you still don't have any evidence if that picture is edited or not. Just about the guy who took the picture can answer that question, but you? No way in hell. In the internet nothing is what it look like. It may be real, or not. Try to get some prove....uhm...sorry...I forget: You don't deal with real evidence or prove anything, you have just rumors and useless shit like that. You have been ranting about this 9/11 thing for months, but what you have accomplish? Nothing. More than that, you have not been able to bring any hard evidence in these conversations, and just like a child, if somebody ask something from you, he doesn't get any answers from you, just more stupid questions which are based on rumors. If you are as smart as you claim to be, where is your evidence? Don't try to show some youtube shit or fake pictures, show us something new, something real, something which prove even one claim to be a fact.

And by the way; when you want to try to answer these very simple questions, which I have ask you like five times before, and you haven't been able to answer them:

Why there would be need for a biggest conspiracy in history of mankind, which would involved tens of thousands of participants, when you can make just same destruction and terror threat by planting just a ordinary bomb in those buildings and pay some rag head leader to take a blame for it. In real life you don't need a passenger jets, bombs and missiles, you need just a right amount of explosives, which you can easily plant in some skyscraper like that.  That you can accomplish with a small group of people, instead of gathering a tens of thousands of people to work for the plot.

Secondly: Why inside job with tens of thousands of participants, when you can manipulate some rag head leader with dollars to do all the work for you and take a blame for all of this? Believe or not, a passenger jet is a great weapon in right hands, as we have seen already. You don't need a missiles or bombs if you have few groups stupid enough to kill them self by flying toward the WTC buildings and pentagon.

Whole theory of yours is so fuc*king childish that it make me want to puke. There isn't any sense, no plot, no conception, just a little wanker who try to satisfy his desire to assert oneself by question this incident. You don't have a big picture, but instead of that, you grab some little fragment from here and there and try to get them look suspicious by lying and distorting truth. Your method is so lame, but do you know it? No way, but instead of that you clearly think you are clever when you doesn't give any answers, but  answer with new questions, just like a child who try to be clever. Every time when someone give you some well founded and reasonable argument, you pick up some fuc*king youtube piece of shit- videoclip from complete different fragment of this matter, and change the subject. You think this make you some kind of authority of the matter, but only thing what you gain about this, is that just about everyone think you are a stupid little wanker.   

Now, when you are just about so steamed up than you ever be, let's play little game based on this conspiracy theory. Let's call it "What do you need to make this happen?"

If you are some very very secret agency/party/whatever bunch of dribbling village idiots who want to start a war to get some oil from Saddam, what do you need? You need a plan, which is good, flawless and so fuc*king secret, that no one knows about it. What then?

1. You need to harness some air force unit work for the plot, because there is some bombing to do
2. You need to bribe employees of 3 to 5 commercial airfield, because there is some passenger jets involved.
3. You need to bribe crews of those planes, passengers, and their folks, and guys who plays the terrorist. You kill them in the end, so pay with checks.
4. You need to bribe some flying schools, because those guys who will be acting terrorist want some airtime and teaching in different countries.
5. You need to bribe just about whole air defence, because you want to fly here and there like planes have been hijacked
6. You need to bribe all secret services of all foreign countries who have satellite route over USA in that day, so they doesn't squeal your plot to the people
7. You need to bribe all seismographic units on the country, because they can recognize a bomb compared to collapsing building
8. You need to bribe all people of the pentagon just stand and look when the building is blown to pieces by some missile/bomb/aeroplane...or you shouldn't tell them anything, just let them die, no matter if they happened to be a part of the military which is making this plot in the first place.
9. You need to bribe taliban to make a statement where they claim to be guilty to this terrorist act
10. You need to bribe all TV stations and newsgroups to put out only that material, which you provide to them.
11. You need to bribe all eye witness and photographers not to publish anything but the material which you have provide to them to publish
12. you need to get all these tens of thousands of people keep these secrets to the grave, and somehow make them act as an single organism to make this plot comes true
13. You need to make four passenger jets flying here and there and finally crash the WTC buildings and middle of the field in middle of the nowhere.
14. You need to kill just about 3000 innocent americans while doing that
15. You need to accomplish bombing mission from highest altitude ever, because no one shouldn't be able to see those bombers. Not even the russian etc. satellites which are alerted by now because all the fuzz.
16. You need to accomplish xx bulls eye with those bombs, which is hard regarding that super high altitude.
17. You need to teach your bombs to act just another way around they have work before, because you want all buildings collapse outside in, not inside out which is characteristic to all bombs.
18. You need to get people all over the world to look your live and fake news feed just because you need more witnesses for your plot
19. You need to shoot that news feed 24/7, because you want to show every second of it to the world
20. You need to kill everyone involved, because your secret isn't safe until they are dead. There is no way in hell to keep that kind of secret, but kill everyone. You have tens of thousands of people who have participate in this plot, and every one is a potential informer.

What is probability to accomplish all this, or why don't we ask only right qestion: what is probability that there is someone who is so crazy, that he thinks that plot like that could be a succes? 


everyone that watched the news that day saw the top of the building falling way off to the side and then magically straighten out...This photo is nothing new...Just a better view...

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Re: The 9/11 Truth Domino Effect
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2007, 08:08:13 PM »
dismantle me? i hope you dont mean physically. and if you are i wont get into that..

you make claims of a hologram used on the trade centers. you say a missile hit the pentegon. you say a bomb was droped on the wtc's. you say it wasnt even a plane that hit the wtc's. i cant even remember all of the shit that you've pulled out of your ass... but im the one that is exposed? this is all circumstantial.. no direct evidence, but thats enough for you to convict people of murder and say people didnt die protecting their country.. it takes a delusional and evil guy to do that shit. you know me and others have been a threat to your bullshit, and dont pull another "im not talking about 911"  again because we all know this is your life.. getbig and 911 is all you have -pathetic.
you do this all day long, day in and day out. nothing but negative shit goes into your posts.. your obviously a very angry guy. its about time to pick up a new hobbie