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locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« on: April 07, 2007, 10:18:48 AM »
I see a lot of guys burning pros saying they are cheating or using bad form when they dont lock out..
i personally thing not l;ocking out is harder than locking out on a lot of movements... when i say not locking out i dont mean a partial  less than haldf or 3 quarter range of movement
ie.. bench presses.. i can bench 315 for 8- 10 reps .. for the first say 6 i dont lockout meaning i dont pause on the top of the movement.. but atfer rep 6-7 when the  going gets really touoch i have to beging locking out and pausing on the top of the movement...
in contrast to an isolation move say dumbell laterals i think personally not holding for a split second on the top of the movement is easier... than going full way
what do you y'all say
which is harder in general

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2007, 12:09:02 PM »
It depends... if someone is trying to use every muscle involved with say bench press (chest, shoulders, triceps, etc...)  than locking out would be of some merit... although I hardly ever do a complete lockout on EVERY rep simply because that would be pretty tough on the elbow joints.  If someone is trying to emphasize more chest on the flat bench, not locking out keeps the tension on the target muscle group (chest) so you work it harder.  Locking out moves the tension from the chest to the triceps and shoulders.

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2007, 01:36:41 PM »
DO't pause at the top, pause at the bottom.  Better challenge.  I do it to this day.  I will lay the bar on my chest for 5 to 10 seconds for each rep with 315.  I do it on the bench, incline and military.

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2007, 02:08:38 PM »
I see a lot of guys burning pros saying they are cheating or using bad form when they dont lock out..
i personally thing not l;ocking out is harder than locking out on a lot of movements... when i say not locking out i dont mean a partial  less than haldf or 3 quarter range of movement
ie.. bench presses.. i can bench 315 for 8- 10 reps .. for the first say 6 i dont lockout meaning i dont pause on the top of the movement.. but atfer rep 6-7 when the  going gets really touoch i have to beging locking out and pausing on the top of the movement...
in contrast to an isolation move say dumbell laterals i think personally not holding for a split second on the top of the movement is easier... than going full way
what do you y'all say
which is harder in general



locking out shifts the weight from the chest to the shoulders

if you want to keep constant tension on the chest then don't lock out

by the way I am calling BS on the 315 for 8-10 reps.  This is getbig! show and prove
Here comes the money shot

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2007, 02:19:41 PM »
To shoulders ????

Try to triceps

You guys really know shit it seems

Obviously not locking out is harder and lets you get less reps with less weight

It's no 'I think that' question

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2007, 02:52:27 PM »
Why lockout and wear your joints out faster?  Also it takes the tension off the muscle you are trying to work. I never do it.  I also think its harder to not lockout because your muscles never get a rest

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2007, 03:43:22 PM »
locking out shifts the weight from the chest to the shoulders

if you want to keep constant tension on the chest then don't lock out

by the way I am calling BS on the 315 for 8-10 reps.  This is getbig! show and prove
also don't forget Mesomorph only eats twice a day too, no breakfast, a sandwich at lunch and some chicken after training. ::)

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2007, 04:52:15 PM »

I think Vince Taylor locks out  8)
just not good enough

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2007, 05:06:10 PM »
Ronnie reps are far, far harder than traditional reps

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2007, 05:55:39 PM »
locking out shifts the weight from the chest to the shoulders

if you want to keep constant tension on the chest then don't lock out

by the way I am calling BS on the 315 for 8-10 reps.  This is getbig! show and prove
really your callin bullshit huh...
ok... how much us dollars would you put on that.. ala.. adonis 112 deadlift thread...
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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2007, 05:58:21 PM »
also don't forget Mesomorph only eats twice a day too, no breakfast, a sandwich at lunch and some chicken after training. ::)
..you seriously have a probelm with me dont you...
because u probably dont bench 315.. i cant... great theory..
ok .. like i said to steelpegasus.. how much $$ do you want to put up to say i cant or havent..
a la... adonis.. 112 deadlift thead?
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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2007, 06:02:01 PM »
DO't pause at the top, pause at the bottom.  Better challenge.  I do it to this day.  I will lay the bar on my chest for 5 to 10 seconds for each rep with 315.  I do it on the bench, incline and military.
I Can see who that would build strength...
i may actually try that... i only pause on top when i get to the later reps...thats when i lockout and pause...
but yeah i'll definetly try that rest pause on the bottom technique you just described
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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2007, 06:51:49 PM »
..you seriously have a probelm with me dont you...
because u probably dont bench 315.. i cant... great theory..
ok .. like i said to steelpegasus.. how much $$ do you want to put up to say i cant or havent..
a la... adonis.. 112 deadlift thead?
hahahaha, yeah "mesomorph" 315 is WAYYYYYYY too heavy for me. ::)

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2007, 06:57:49 PM »
hahahaha, yeah "mesomorph" 315 is WAYYYYYYY too heavy for me. ::)

hahaha be careful posting your pic in a "mesomorph" thread, SF, "he" may use it as jackoff material.

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2007, 07:03:46 PM »
hahahaha, yeah "mesomorph" 315 is WAYYYYYYY too heavy for me. ::)
... umm you are posting that picure with pride?
i have bigger arms chest back shoulders...
10 times more cut..

lol man ima just take you as funny now because its clear you are delusional...
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from now on.. i wont actually speak directly to u...
in regard to you vs me or... how much weight u think i can or cant lift because it really isnt importnt..
anything else like sometime you actually post worthwhile suff on the training boards i will gladly debate with you with...
but this whole you vs me
schitz..
ima leave tha one on you
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choice is an illusion

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2007, 07:09:30 PM »
... umm you are posting that picure with pride?
i have bigger arms chest back shoulders...
10 times more cut..

lol man ima just take you as funny now because its clear you are delusional...
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from now on.. i wont actually speak directly to u...
in regard to you vs me or... how much weight u think i can or cant lift because it really isnt importnt..
anything else like sometime you actually post worthwhile suff on the training boards i will gladly debate with you with...
but this whole you vs me
schitz..
ima leave tha one on you
 ;)

hahahahaha, you're skinny, ugly and you lie about the weight you lift. ;D

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2007, 08:01:29 PM »
hahahahaha, you're skinny, ugly and you lie about the weight you lift. ;D

Dude you are fat as shit. What kind of delusional mirror are you looking into. Give Adonis back his mirror.

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2007, 08:04:08 PM »
Dude you are fat as shit. What kind of delusional mirror are you looking into. Give Adonis back his mirror.

You must be looking at a different pic than the one I saw.  SF is massive, huge delts and chest, dude looks like a fucken tank.

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2007, 09:32:18 PM »
You must be looking at a different pic than the one I saw.  SF is massive, huge delts and chest, dude looks like a fucken tank.

he is pretty jacked for sure.... once he diets down he will look great

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2007, 07:30:51 AM »
Dude you are fat as shit. What kind of delusional mirror are you looking into. Give Adonis back his mirror.
you just stick up for "meso" because you're skinny and black like him.

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2007, 07:55:41 AM »
you just stick up for "meso" because you're skinny and black like him.
Why dont you diet down?(Seriously)
Dont worry. You can reveal some serious irons under your body fat.
You look strong.

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2007, 07:56:40 AM »
its angry fat bitch tittied  italian man ;D

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2007, 07:59:57 AM »
Why dont you diet down?(Seriously)
Dont worry. You can reveal some serious irons under your body fat.
You look strong.

he looks fat, and thats the truth.

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2007, 08:52:49 AM »
monster unprovoked double post by DP

sars is in your head, no doubt

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Re: locking out vs not locking out which is harder
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2007, 09:00:43 AM »
monster unprovoked double post by DP

sars is in your head, no doubt

So you dont think squadfather is fat? Be honest
Dont give me that lame bullshit that he is lean.