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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1100 on: February 28, 2025, 01:34:35 PM »
Using religion for political gain....Trump is the least religious person we all know. I hope people see through this

What do you consider to be a "religious person"?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1101 on: February 28, 2025, 01:36:31 PM »
Like they saw through Khvntmala & Didn't vote for her.  ;D  👊🏻

You mean Kamala "Joy cometh in the morning" Harris?   :)

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1102 on: February 28, 2025, 02:32:36 PM »
Using religion for political gain....Trump is the least religious person we all know. I hope people see through this

Is he ? & you Know him personally do you ?

I doubt he's less religious than Me  ;D

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1103 on: March 03, 2025, 10:56:48 AM »
You mean Kamala "Joy cometh in the morning" Harris?   :)

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WTF, even by her own standards she seems deranged there.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1104 on: March 04, 2025, 12:07:00 AM »
WTF, even by her own standards she seems deranged there.
She has had a rough time lately. TDS is incurable. She won't recover.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1105 on: June 24, 2025, 10:52:44 AM »
Ryann McEnany
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The smarter the world gets, the harder it is to ignore the truth of Christ.

Dr. YoungHoon Kim, officially recognized in 2024 as having the highest IQ ever recorded says:

"I believe that Jesus Christ is God, the way and the truth and the life."

He points to quantum physics to support belief in God and the afterlife.

Faith isn’t fading. It’s rising — even among the world’s greatest minds.

https://x.com/RyannMcEnany/status/1935485765191934331

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1106 on: June 25, 2025, 12:18:25 AM »
Ryann McEnany
@RyannMcEnany

The smarter the world gets, the harder it is to ignore the truth of Christ.

Dr. YoungHoon Kim, officially recognized in 2024 as having the highest IQ ever recorded says:

"I believe that Jesus Christ is God, the way and the truth and the life."

He points to quantum physics to support belief in God and the afterlife.

Faith isn’t fading. It’s rising — even among the world’s greatest minds.

https://x.com/RyannMcEnany/status/1935485765191934331
I don't know about this.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1107 on: June 25, 2025, 10:13:26 PM »
I don't know about this.

That's because it's bullshit.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1108 on: June 26, 2025, 12:29:19 AM »
That's because it's bullshit.
Yeah, fewer people are regular church goers or religious at all.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1109 on: June 26, 2025, 12:49:28 PM »
That's because it's bullshit.

What's BS?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1110 on: June 26, 2025, 12:52:19 PM »
Yeah, fewer people are regular church goers or religious at all.

I think the numbers have declined but I would distinguish between people attending church from those who believe in God.  Believers still represent the overwhelming majority of the country. 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1111 on: June 26, 2025, 06:01:14 PM »
I think the numbers have declined but I would distinguish between people attending church from those who believe in God.  Believers still represent the overwhelming majority of the country.

I'd submit that most believers are what I'd call bet hedgers.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1112 on: June 27, 2025, 12:33:25 AM »
I'd submit that most believers are what I'd call bet hedgers.
Pascal's Wager.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1113 on: June 27, 2025, 10:05:39 AM »
I'd submit that most believers are what I'd call bet hedgers.

What do you mean? 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1114 on: June 27, 2025, 10:07:18 AM »
Pascal's Wager.

Not for me.  I don't believe in infinite suffering.

It's really a logical belief for me.  And based on life experience.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1115 on: June 27, 2025, 05:51:03 PM »
Nothing logical about talking snakes, walking on water, parting seas, turning a loaf of bread and some fish into enough to feed hundreds, the entire world spawned from two people, Noah's Ark, rising from the dead, virgin birth, talking to a burning bush, Jonah and the whale.  It's impossible to be a critical thinker and believe this shit and much more. 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1116 on: June 28, 2025, 12:54:46 AM »
Nothing logical about talking snakes, walking on water, parting seas, turning a loaf of bread and some fish into enough to feed hundreds, the entire world spawned from two people, Noah's Ark, rising from the dead, virgin birth, talking to a burning bush, Jonah and the whale.  It's impossible to be a critical thinker and believe this shit and much more.
Many believe those stories are allegories.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1117 on: Today at 12:51:18 PM »
Nothing logical about talking snakes, walking on water, parting seas, turning a loaf of bread and some fish into enough to feed hundreds, the entire world spawned from two people, Noah's Ark, rising from the dead, virgin birth, talking to a burning bush, Jonah and the whale.  It's impossible to be a critical thinker and believe this shit and much more.

There is a difference between a faith-based belief in Biblical stories and a faith-based belief in God.  Not everyone who believes in God is a Christian and/or believes in everything the Bible says.
 
There are lots of people, including the guy with the highest IQ in the world, who believe in God.  Do you think he lacks the ability to think critically?
 
For me, it’s impossible to conclude that we are all here by accident, that some unknown explosion resulted in life on earth, that our incredibly complex bodies evolved from animals (particularly when there is a complete absence of an entire record of transitional fossils), and that the conditions that allow life on earth are also some kind of accident.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1118 on: Today at 12:52:47 PM »
Many believe those stories are allegories.

There are a lot of "parables" that cannot be taken literally.  There are also recommendations, love stories, some actual facts, etc. 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1119 on: Today at 03:38:36 PM »
There is a difference between a faith-based belief in Biblical stories and a faith-based belief in God.  Not everyone who believes in God is a Christian and/or believes in everything the Bible says.
 
There are lots of people, including the guy with the highest IQ in the world, who believe in God.  Do you think he lacks the ability to think critically?
 
For me, it’s impossible to conclude that we are all here by accident, that some unknown explosion resulted in life on earth, that our incredibly complex bodies evolved from animals (particularly when there is a complete absence of an entire record of transitional fossils), and that the conditions that allow life on earth are also some kind of accident.


What has his iq got to do with it ?
Yeah he has the highest iq & ...... is he the richest man on earth ??

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1120 on: Today at 03:54:01 PM »

What has his iq got to do with it ?
Yeah he has the highest iq & ...... is he the richest man on earth ??

Abraham says people who believe in God lack critical thinking skills.  I was asking whether he thinks the man with the highest IQ in the world lacks critical thinking skills. 

I don't think wealth has anything to do with this.  But I will say plenty of incredibly wealthy people believe in God.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1121 on: Today at 04:03:06 PM »
Abraham says people who believe in God lack critical thinking skills.  I was asking whether he thinks the man with the highest IQ in the world lacks critical thinking skills. 

I don't think wealth has anything to do with this.  But I will say plenty of incredibly wealthy people believe in God.

I just don't think iq is very relevant if at all.
Yes sure many wealthy folk & just as many don't.

I don't know if he lacks critical thinking as I don't know him or ever met him.
Many high iq individuals are very stunted or challenged in other areas of thought.

As really you'd expect the man with the highest iq to also the wealthiest.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1122 on: Today at 04:12:45 PM »
I just don't think iq is very relevant if at all.
Yes sure many wealthy folk & just as many don't.

I don't know if he lacks critical thinking as I don't know him or ever met him.
Many high iq individuals are very stunted or challenged in other areas of thought.

As really you'd expect the man with the highest iq to also the wealthiest.

IQ is only relevant if you are claiming that only people who cannot think critically believe in God.

I don't correlate wealth with IQ.  Wealth is about understanding how to live below your means, creating multiple streams of income, including passive income, and working very hard.  That doesn't really require a high IQ.   

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1123 on: Today at 04:17:58 PM »
IQ is only relevant if you are claiming that only people who cannot think critically believe in God.

I don't correlate wealth with IQ.  Wealth is about understanding how to live below your means, creating multiple streams of income, including passive income, and working very hard.  That doesn't really require a high IQ.


Would you not think someone with such high iq & critical thinking would
Be able to surpass the wealth of many of the richest folk if its that easy.

I don't see any hard work involved the term is wrongly used, as they're not
Doing any hard physical work, quite the opposite in fact.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1124 on: Today at 04:40:52 PM »

Would you not think someone with such high iq & critical thinking would
Be able to surpass the wealth of many of the richest folk if its that easy.

I don't see any hard work involved the term is wrongly used, as they're not
Doing any hard physical work, quite the opposite in fact.

Not necessarily.  Maybe they don't care about building wealth. 

Most wealthy people own a business.  Running a business is hard work.  Hard work includes physical and mental work.  Running a construction company involves physical work.  Running a doctor's office requires mental work.