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So You're Still A Republican?
« on: April 18, 2007, 03:40:14 PM »
<< I almost feel sorry for my Republican friends.

They once belonged to a respectable political party that could be trusted from time to time to run the country--with some oversight of a Democratic congress, of course.

Now, that the GOP party bus is out of control, careening downhill headed for the precipice, moderate Republicans are in a terrible quandary.
They can remember what happened in 1932, when the country turned on the GOP for mismanagement, casting them into political oblivion for two decades.

Because moderates often differ with the rightwing of their party on such issues as stem cell research, the environment, choice, gun control, and the Iraq war, they are labeled RINOs (Republicans In Name Only). In recent years, these old school Republicans have been sidelined, at best, or "pistol whipped" into accepting the neo-con agenda.

These passive Republicans speak in rambling sentences about the handling of the war, the stain of torture, the spectacle or corruption, and our loss of moral authority in the world.

Moderates are not the only ones feeling the pain of conformity. Pity the GOP presidential hopefuls who must grovel, lie, or recant in order to curry the favor of their captors. How sad to watch McCain and Romney bend themselves into political pretzels, while Brownback and Huckabee vie for political sainthood.

Giuliani and Gingrich hope, that like Ted Haggard and Jimmy Swaggart, they can be "cured" of their "sins" and emerge as the born-again heroes of the religious right.

In the months ahead, look for Dobson to go into the indulgence selling business, extracting a "price" for forgiveness from those he "ordains" with his favor.

Still, too many moderate Republicans are clinging to the party that has both embarrassed and annihilated them. A recent NYT/CBS News poll shows that while Republicans are fretting about their misfortunes, 75% of them approve the president's job performance and give him high marks on handling foreign policy, the economy, and the war.

So what is to become of the party of Eisenhower, Taft, Ford, Dirksen, and Nelson Rockefeller? Will the loyal remain lashed to the mast and go down with the ship?

Christy Todd Whitman, former EPA director and New Jersey governor, wrote a book, It's My Party, too; Taking Back the Republican Party, in which she deplored the "tight" structure of today's GOP, that once prided itself on being an "umbrella party."

She faulted centrists for causing the umbrella to collapse, as they sat back feeling uncomfortable and irrelevant, hoping commonsense would ultimately prevail.

As I said earlier, I almost feel sorry for my Republican friends. But I am getting over it. I can no longer allow them the luxury of being indifferent bystanders during such a perilous time in our history.

By going along and not fighting back, they have become enablers of right-wing zealots, whose policies are inflicting grave harm to our nation.

This administration has lost its political and spiritual moorings and it's time for Republicans of conscience to say so.  >>

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jean-carnahan/so-youre-still-a-republi_b_46187.html

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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2007, 03:52:23 PM »
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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2007, 07:17:23 PM »
The republican party has become a shadow of its former self. I mean, they've never hidden the fact that they represent the rich, that is a given. Everytime they make it to the White House a huge amount of money is transfered from the mid and low classes to the richest 10% via refunds, tax breaks and other monetary mechanisms... And people still vote for them.

It has taken many mistakes for people to realise what a bunch or crooks that party has become. At one point, while we were still licking our wounds from 9/11 (which looks more and more every day like an "inside" job,) they even questioned our sacrosant Constitution... And the press never said shit!

It took a war based on lies, electoral fraud, invasion of sovereign countries, rampant corruption, torture of foreigners, etc. This is, by far, the worst Administration in many, many years, with Bush Jr., posibly, the worst president in US history.

Now, the democrats are not the panacea of correctness, but I'll take a president who gets blow jobs from an intern vs. one who decides to outright murder thousands of people any day.

What a bunch of crooks!!!!!!

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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2007, 07:28:03 PM »
The republican party has become a shadow of its former self. I mean, they've never hidden the fact that they represent the rich, that is a given. Everytime they make it to the White House a huge amount of money is transfered from the mid and low classes to the richest 10% via refunds, tax breaks and other monetary mechanisms... And people still vote for them.

It has taken many mistakes for people to realise what a bunch or crooks that party has become. At one point, while we were still licking our wounds from 9/11 (which looks more and more every day like an "inside" job,) they even questioned our sacrosant Constitution... And the press never said shit!

It took a war based on lies, electoral fraud, invasion of sovereign countries, rampant corruption, torture of foreigners, etc. This is, by far, the worst Administration in many, many years, with Bush Jr., posibly, the worst president in US history.

Now, the democrats are not the panacea of correctness, but I'll take a president who gets blow jobs from an intern vs. one who decides to outright murder thousands of people any day.

What a bunch of crooks!!!!!!

This is by no means a defensive argument for Republicans but what have the uber rich elite Democrats done for the poor and common man? Not a damn thing.




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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2007, 07:43:43 PM »
no, but i usually vote that way. I am registered as an indepedent but am definately right wing.
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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2007, 07:43:55 PM »
This is by no means a defensive argument for Republicans but what have the uber rich elite Democrats done for the poor and common man? Not a damn thing.

Au contraire mon ami, just imagine what life would be like without Heinz 57... or Babs.  :o
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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2007, 07:44:36 PM »
no, but i usually vote that way. I am registered as an indepedent but am definately right wing.

If ya wanna live like a Republican, ...you better vote Democrat.  ;D
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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2007, 04:21:00 AM »
This is by no means a defensive argument for Republicans but what have the uber rich elite Democrats done for the poor and common man? Not a damn thing.





Guess you never heard of Civil Rights, Worker Protection laws, Welfare for the needy, etc.  :-\ 

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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2007, 06:08:56 AM »
Its going to be even worse to be a democrat in 2008 when you realize even with all that has gone wrong during Bush's presidency that the democrats still can't win the white house.

Cry me a river when that moment comes.  Hillary?  Obama?  Good god, 2008 will be a cakewalk for the republicans.

8 MORE YEARS BABY!
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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2007, 06:10:36 AM »
Its going to be even worse to be a democrat in 2008 when you realize even with all that has gone wrong during Bush's presidency that the democrats still can't win the white house.

Cry me a river when that moment comes.  Hillary?  Obama?  Good god, 2008 will be a cakewalk for the republicans.

8 MORE YEARS BABY!

I don't understand the post you just made.

You hear about the train wreck of the last 6 years - and you know you cannot defend it - so your post becomes the diversion of "but you suck worse and you can't win and hahaha and 8 more years of this clusterfvck".


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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2007, 06:11:20 AM »
The republican party has become a shadow of its former self. I mean, they've never hidden the fact that they represent the rich, that is a given. Everytime they make it to the White House a huge amount of money is transfered from the mid and low classes to the richest 10% via refunds, tax breaks and other monetary mechanisms... And people still vote for them.

It has taken many mistakes for people to realise what a bunch or crooks that party has become. At one point, while we were still licking our wounds from 9/11 (which looks more and more every day like an "inside" job,) they even questioned our sacrosant Constitution... And the press never said shit!

It took a war based on lies, electoral fraud, invasion of sovereign countries, rampant corruption, torture of foreigners, etc. This is, by far, the worst Administration in many, many years, with Bush Jr., posibly, the worst president in US history.

Now, the democrats are not the panacea of correctness, but I'll take a president who gets blow jobs from an intern vs. one who decides to outright murder thousands of people any day.

What a bunch of crooks!!!!!!

You do understand the rich people are the ones that HIRE the poor folks.  Tax the rich to death and no jobs for the poor folk.
Remember the rich pay over 90% of the tax money collected every year, what ya want from them, 100% and give the middle class and lower class a free ride?  Remember, the greeter at Wal-Mart never hired anyone...
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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2007, 06:12:21 AM »
I don't understand the post you just made.

You hear about the train wreck of the last 6 years - and you know you cannot defend it - so your post becomes the diversion of "but you suck worse and you can't win and hahaha and 8 more years of this clusterfvck".



240, you know i'm satisfied with GWB.  Hell, i'd vote for him again.
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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2007, 06:14:53 AM »
240, you know i'm satisfied with GWB.  Hell, i'd vote for him again.

If you had been one of the 200 folks who had to decide to jump to his death from the top of the world trade center, would you change your vote for Bush on the way down?

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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2007, 06:34:32 AM »
If you had been one of the 200 folks who had to decide to jump to his death from the top of the world trade center, would you change your vote for Bush on the way down?
NOPE.  Those planes would have hit that building that day if Pee Wee Herman were president.
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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2007, 07:08:11 AM »
... Good god, 2008 will be a cakewalk for the republicans.



Will there still be any that aren't in jail, under indictment or totally brain dead by then?

Hillary in 08, 09, 10, 11, 12 , 13, 14, 15.

The Clintons are back, get used to it sucka.  ;D


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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2007, 07:11:59 AM »
NOPE.  Those planes would have hit that building that day if Pee Wee Herman were president.

Some believe Pee Wee Herman would have listened to the very detailed, very specific warnings of attack target, date, and hijackers, that came from various nations.

Some believe Pee Wee Herman would have stepped the attacks.

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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2007, 07:13:36 AM »
Some believe Pee Wee Herman would have listened to the very detailed, very specific warnings of attack target, date, and hijackers, that came from various nations.



"All right, you've covered your ass. Huh huh!"

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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2007, 07:13:50 AM »
Some believe Pee Wee Herman would have listened to the very detailed, very specific warnings of attack target, date, and hijackers, that came from various nations.

Some believe Pee Wee Herman would have stepped the attacks.
Thats another difference between us, you believe all that, i don't.

Pee Wee by the way, would have flashed his PEE PEE at em.
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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2007, 07:30:40 AM »
The republican party will right itself..unlike dems, Ribo we don't cut and run, we will try and change things and make it better.
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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2007, 09:01:31 AM »
Thats another difference between us, you believe all that, i don't.

You don't believe what?  That Bush was informed?

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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2007, 09:13:31 AM »
The republican party will right itself..unlike dems, Ribo we don't cut and run, we will try and change things and make it better.

Bwahahaaahhhaaaaaaaaaaaa

Sorry but the pure absurdity of that post made me laugh.

6 years of corruption and incompetence and they're still diverting attention to the Democrats.

NEWSFLASH, both parties are EQUALLY bad. The Republicans aren't better than the Democrats and the Democrats aren't better than the Republicans. The sooner neotaints realize this the better off we'll all be.

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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2007, 09:14:46 AM »
You don't believe what?  That Bush was informed?

Yep.  You act as if bush knew the flight number and did nothing but read to kids in kindegarten glass.
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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2007, 09:20:33 AM »
Yep.  You act as if bush knew the flight number and did nothing but read to kids in kindegarten glass.

Bush was given 5 of the terrorists' names, as well as the date of the attacks.  Six weeks before the attacks.

How hard would it have been to check and see "wow, those 5 people just happen to have plane tickets for that day too.  Maybe we should check this out?"   

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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2007, 09:24:09 AM »
Bush was given 5 of the terrorists' names, as well as the date of the attacks.  Six weeks before the attacks.

How hard would it have been to check and see "wow, those 5 people just happen to have plane tickets for that day too.  Maybe we should check this out?"   
What was the explanation for not checking it out?  I know how you can pick out one fact and build a story about it.
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Re: So You're Still A Republican?
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2007, 09:29:27 AM »
What was the explanation for not checking it out?  I know how you can pick out one fact and build a story about it.

They never gave one.  Our good friends the Germans and the Israelis told us that day.  Also, that day, The head of the FBI made an emergency trip to Crawford TX with lights blaring to deliver a top secret document to Bush.  Condi accepted it, but never read it.

That's right.  She said she passed it on, Rummy said he never go it.  Neither did Ashcroft.  They pointed fingers on it, then dropped it.

So...to review...
The head of the FBI flies on an emergency trip to the Presiden't home with highly secret info (the same day germany tells us about a massive upcoming attack).  The president and his Nat'l Security Advisor do not even read it.  bush tells the FBI "You've covered your ass, alright?"

Shortly after that, the Hollywood, FL branch of the FBI which was following a suspicious Atta was "called off" - their branch was ordered off the case by executive order.



Are the pieces starting to fit together?