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Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« on: April 22, 2007, 07:13:23 AM »
Sources: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
Local authorities were told to take no action to pursue killer  :'(

Prison Planet | April 20, 2007
Paul Joseph Watson

Police and EMT workers at Virginia Tech tell us that campus police were given a federal order to stand down and not pursue killer Cho Seung-Hui as Monday's bloodshed unfolded.

Though wishing to remain anonymous for obvious reasons, we have received calls from police and EMT's who tell us that a stand down order was in place, and this is also confirmed by eyewitness Matt Kazee, who is a Blacksburg local.

Kazee talked to local EMT's and police who told him the same thing, that the order was to wait until federal back up arrived before any action was taken. This explains the complete non-response of the police in the two hour gap between Cho's first two murders and the wider rampage that would follow later that morning.

The policy of federal control over the University was put in place following a previous shooting in August 2006 in which a police officer and a hospital security guard were killed.

In addition, a former long-term University police officer, George French, told the Alex Jones Show that it is routine to seal off a campus on which a suspected gunman is loose.

“Setting up a series of roadblocks, controlling access to very large pieces of property, is very much routine on any university campus in Canada and in the United States,” said French.

“After a double homicide, when you're looking for a dangerous fellow with a firearm, I find it unfathomable that a series of roadblocks weren't set up…to prevent the felon from escaping.”

French could find no logical conclusion other than deliberate inaction on the part of officials. “We have another coordinated, allowed event…the parallels are so common in each case; you can write the script in advance.”

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2007, 07:27:54 AM »
Great ::)


My inner CTer is stirring... of course the headlines have been diverting us away from Iraq...

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2007, 07:41:41 AM »
The CTers initially took notice of this one - as there were bomb threats the two fridays before the monday shooting, oddly, in those same buildings.

And according to student interviews on NPR that day, there were ATF guys all over the place ten days before, then 3 days before, alone and unattended over the weekend in those buildings.  ATF answered the bomb threats, of course, but locked down the buildings.  Of course this is standard procedure - but it is an incredible coincidence, and we all remember that every ATF agent kept their child home, coincidentally, the day of the Ok City bombing :(

And you toss in the fact the police stood down, didn't rush in even as shots were fired for 30+ minutes.  Remember the video clip the kid took - of the police standing there while shots rang out - they weren't even in position - they were chatting.

And, the story has everything - a lone bad guy, a hero (the professor), a federal investigation which has already vowed to assign NO BLAME for any failures that day.



My money is still on one messed up kid.  No CT here.  however, I will definitly look at things that come out about the shooting.  The feds ordering campus and state police to stand down - incredibly strange, and probably worthy of its own investigation for no reason other than of plain old bad system in place.  So maybe let's start there.  Of course, they're not, and have vowed not to, which is odd.

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2007, 08:17:42 AM »
FBI HRT was going to roll in.  Could have been the stand down order.
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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2007, 08:24:40 AM »
FBI HRT was going to roll in.  Could have been the stand down order.

what's HRT?  hostage response?  I'm referring to the initial 2 killings they stopped investigations of.

If they did have plans to do something themselves, that might be a reasonable explanation.  No presence for 2 hours, very odd.  It's probably just the local campus police waiting for their chief to come in, then him getting abreast of the situation, getting his coffee, taking a dump, and calling the VA prez' voicemail to try to coordinate efforts for dealing with public perception. 

that's my guess - which they obviously cannot admit - they didn't act because they didn't want to be on MSNBC for the double-shooting and lockdown.

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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2007, 08:26:16 AM »
what's HRT?  hostage response?  I'm referring to the initial 2 killings they stopped investigations of.

If they did have plans to do something themselves, that might be a reasonable explanation.  No presence for 2 hours, very odd.  It's probably just the local campus police waiting for their chief to come in, then him getting abreast of the situation, getting his coffee, taking a dump, and calling the VA prez' voicemail to try to coordinate efforts for dealing with public perception. 

that's my guess - which they obviously cannot admit - they didn't act because they didn't want to be on MSNBC for the double-shooting and lockdown.
HRT... Feds on Steroids!!!  :D

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2007, 09:16:52 AM »
lol.  What took so long?  You knew the CT nuts would be all over this one.  The sinister government at it again.   ::)

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2007, 09:21:01 AM »
HRT... Feds on Steroids!!!  :D
You're a moron.  Most are ex-SEAL,Delta, SF, Ranger who deal with Hostage Rescues in the US and word is they were getting flown in from Quantico. 

lol.  What took so long?  You knew the CT nuts would be all over this one.  The sinister government at it again.   ::)
OF course they did.  Everything is a conspiracy.
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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2007, 09:30:37 AM »
lol.  What took so long?  You knew the CT nuts would be all over this one.  The sinister government at it again.   ::)

nah, they're pointing out that the feds ordered staties and campus cops to stand down.  obviously that's interesting.

but prison planet isn't making a deal of it, and neither are people here.

settle down, beavis.

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2007, 09:38:37 AM »
You're a moron.  Most are ex-SEAL,Delta, SF, Ranger who deal with Hostage Rescues in the US and word is they were getting flown in from Quantico. 
 OF course they did.  Everything is a conspiracy.

Tell me about it.

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2007, 09:39:02 AM »
nah, they're pointing out that the feds ordered staties and campus cops to stand down.  obviously that's interesting.

but prison planet isn't making a deal of it, and neither are people here.

settle down, beavis.

Okay Mrs. Doubtfire. 

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2007, 09:41:26 AM »
Okay Mrs. Doubtfire. 

You disrespect your wife when you say that.

I pity her.

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2007, 09:46:59 AM »

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2007, 09:50:37 AM »
Your wife worked very hard raising your 17-year old daughter, BB.

Did you mock her for her efforts as you mock me for mine?

Don't you respect yourself, your family?

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2007, 09:51:40 AM »
FBI hostage rescue are the best door kickers out there but most aren't even prior military..they have a way of doing things thats different the Delta and the Seals etc......With their expertise and being close by at Quantico, it makes sense that they'd be called in.....not sure why everthing that happens is a CT event.
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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2007, 09:53:08 AM »
Your wife worked very hard raising your 17-year old daughter, BB.

Did you mock her for her efforts as you mock me for mine?

Don't you respect yourself, your family?

Go wash them dishes boy. 

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2007, 09:56:20 AM »
You're a moron.  Most are ex-SEAL,Delta, SF, Ranger who deal with Hostage Rescues in the US and word is they were getting flown in from Quantico. 
 OF course they did.  Everything is a conspiracy.
Chill out asshole, it's a joke hense the cheesy smile...  HRT= Hormone Replacement Therapy= FBI on Steroids :D

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2007, 09:58:18 AM »
Go wash them dishes boy. 

You disrespect your wife.

I pity her.

You belittle what she did for your child.

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2007, 10:00:43 AM »
FBI hostage rescue are the best door kickers out there but most aren't even prior military..they have a way of doing things thats different the Delta and the Seals etc......With their expertise and being close by at Quantico, it makes sense that they'd be called in.....not sure why everthing that happens is a CT event.
uhm, when the guy is in the middle of shooting the crap out of everyone, it makes sense not to have cops that are there go in and end the fucker? Yea, not in my book. Not to me, I would be fucking pissed as all hell if I were there or had a loved one there.  Exuse me, but fuck that, the guy is activly killing people... blame blame blame, you don't wait for shit!!!!!!!!

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2007, 10:01:33 AM »
You guys leave eachothers families alone.

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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2007, 10:04:18 AM »
FBI hostage rescue are the best door kickers out there but most aren't even prior military..they have a way of doing things thats different the Delta and the Seals etc......With their expertise and being close by at Quantico, it makes sense that they'd be called in.....not sure why everthing that happens is a CT event.
We disagree based on what I know (prior service, etc) but bottom line is they are the shit.

uhm, when the guy is in the middle of shooting the crap out of everyone, it makes sense not to have cops that are there go in and end the fucker? Yea, not in my book. Not to me, I would be fucking pissed as all hell if I were there or had a loved one there.  Exuse me, but fuck that, the guy is activly killing people... blame blame blame, you don't wait for shit!!!!!!!!
They have a part time SWAT team.  You have demonstrated no knowledge on the subject so take a Hydrocodone and relax, and you tell me to chill out.  ::)

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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2007, 10:06:51 AM »
We disagree based on what I know (prior service, etc) but bottom line is they are the shit.
 They have a part time SWAT team.  You have demonstrated no knowledge on the subject so take a Hydrocodone and relax, and you tell me to chill out.  ::)


You're the one that jumped my shit for making a joke ::)

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2007, 10:09:18 AM »
You're the one that jumped my shit for making a joke ::)
It wasn't funny.  It makes highly trained guys seem like loose renegades.  Hope that helps.
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2007, 10:11:50 AM »
It wasn't funny.  It makes highly trained guys seem like loose renegades.  Hope that helps.
::) a wee bit anal retentive for being "comfortably numb" ::)

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Re: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2007, 10:12:57 AM »
::) a wee bit anal retentive for being "comfortably numb" ::)
Lol.  Keep reaching.  ;D
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