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Clinton backs gays in military
« on: April 23, 2007, 08:46:04 AM »
Clinton backs gays in military
By Tony Leys, Des Moines Register
DECORAH, Iowa — Gay troops should be able to serve in the U.S. military without hiding their sexual identity, Sen. Hillary Clinton said here Sunday.
Clinton said it's time to drop the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, which began when her husband, Bill Clinton, was president. The policy says that gays may serve in the military if they keep their homosexuality secret but that they can be tossed out if they don't.

"Right now, we are discharging soldiers? at a time when we don't have enough people to do the missions we need around the world? because they're gay. Not because they've done anything, but just because they're gay," she said.

Clinton, one of the Democrats' leading presidential candidates, quoted the late Sen. Barry Goldwater, a conservative Republican who supported the rights of gay troops: "I think the question should be not whether you are straight, but whether you shoot straight." Clinton spoke about the issue in response to a question from the audience during a campaign visit to Luther College. She also said she supported the right of gay Americans to join in civil unions, though she did not mention the more controversial idea of gay marriage.

The New York senator touched on numerous topics during a "town hall" talk before about 1,000 people in northeast Iowa.

"Some of the damage that has been done, we didn't know about. We didn't understand," she said. "But now we do, and we have no excuses left." She said she favors capping greenhouse-gas emissions and financing alternative-energy research with money now going to subsidize oil companies.

Clinton criticized the Bush administration on numerous fronts, including education, taxation and the Iraq war. She described "a heartbreaking development," in which former allies have turned away from the United States because of President Bush's overbearing approach to diplomacy.

She also spoke about the need for universal health care, noting that she led an effort to create such a system when her husband was president.

Audience member Rita Tejada brought her daughters? Lara, 9, and Rita Marie, 11, to see someone who might become the nation's first female president.

Tejada said Clinton should stress the health care issue more. The Luther College Spanish teacher said that the subject will be among the most crucial in the election and that Clinton has the best chance of achieving universal health care. "She has the experience from before," Tejada said.

Dick Guilgot of Decorah said he probably will support Clinton. "I think she's the best, common-sense, moderate Democrat," he said.

Guilgot believes Clinton could win both the nomination and the general election, although he acknowledged some Democrats' fears that she would turn off too many independents.

"I think it's going to be a challenge," he said. "There's a negative factor she can't deny."
 
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-04-22-clinton-iowa_N.htm

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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2007, 08:54:27 AM »
CAP86 WAS HOMO WHILE HE DID HIS TIME IN THE ARMY HE TURNED OUT OK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE ARE MANY GAYS IN THE MILITARY GUYS COME ON ! AND SO WHAT THEY STILL CAN DO THE JOB !
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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2007, 08:55:00 AM »
and you guys want this idiot to be prez......*shakes head*
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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2007, 08:56:08 AM »
ROOSTER HOW DID U DO IN THE MLILTARY ?
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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2007, 08:56:30 AM »
I hate to agree with a Clinton, but she's right.

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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2007, 08:57:39 AM »
and you guys want this idiot to be prez......*shakes head*

dude, if a gay man wants to fight, let him.

imagine if 100,000 men went to the recreuiter tomorrow and wanted to go to Iraq.  Sure, they suck cock and dress nice.  But that means overdeployed folks get to come home and see their families.

If they shoot straight, that's good enough.
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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2007, 09:02:16 AM »
Good for her.  As Barry Goldwater said,  “Everyone knows that gays have served honorably in the military since at least the time of Julius Caesar.” He also said, “You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight.”

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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2007, 09:03:08 AM »
dude, if a gay man wants to fight, let him.

imagine if 100,000 men went to the recreuiter tomorrow and wanted to go to Iraq.  Sure, they suck cock and dress nice.  But that means overdeployed folks get to come home and see their families.

If they shoot straight, that's good enough.

Its really a two edged sword. First I agree it should be how good a solider you are not what you do in the off hours that counts. I served with people that I know were gay and kept it quiet and I respected there privacy. The problem is like society the services are made up of people with issues and some would not choose to fight with gay people. The worst thing you can have in any combat unit is disharmony. You need to think and react as one. If your buddy is hurt you want to save him and some people would not because of blood and aids and religious differences. There is no real good answer.

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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2007, 09:07:28 AM »
alot of the great warriors of all time where homos so what !
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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2007, 09:14:03 AM »
The Us military will always oppose change like openly allowing Gays into the military regardless of how practical or evident of the existence of gays in the military is currently.

They were the same way in 1947 when Truman forced the military to integrate blacks.   The military's reasoning against it was similar.  But if the President (current of future) does decide to make it so, it will be that way whether the military likes to or not and in time they will all get over it.

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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2007, 09:20:05 AM »
there's an old phrase "beggars can't be choosy".

the military is overextended and people's tours are getting longer because there aren't enough soldiers.

why exclude a group of people who can fight just fine?  If the straight men have a problem with it, give them the option of engaging ten bad guys by themself, or with 9 gay US soldiers on his side.  Watch how fast his opinoin changes when he needs their firepower.



that being said, the first one who wears pink camo gets a soap bar beatdown.
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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2007, 09:25:33 AM »
there's an old phrase "beggars can't be choosy".

the military is overextended and people's tours are getting longer because there aren't enough soldiers.

why exclude a group of people who can fight just fine?  If the straight men have a problem with it, give them the option of engaging ten bad guys by themself, or with 9 gay US soldiers on his side.  Watch how fast his opinoin changes when he needs their firepower.



that being said, the first one who wears pink camo gets a soap bar beatdown.

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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2007, 09:32:45 AM »
What you don't like the new shits... ;D



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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2007, 10:31:51 AM »
Clinton backs gays in military
By Tony Leys, Des Moines Register
DECORAH, Iowa — Gay troops should be able to serve in the U.S. military without hiding their sexual identity, Sen. Hillary Clinton said here Sunday.
Clinton said it's time to drop the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, which began when her husband, Bill Clinton, was president. The policy says that gays may serve in the military if they keep their homosexuality secret but that they can be tossed out if they don't.

"Right now, we are discharging soldiers? at a time when we don't have enough people to do the missions we need around the world? because they're gay. Not because they've done anything, but just because they're gay," she said.

Clinton, one of the Democrats' leading presidential candidates, quoted the late Sen. Barry Goldwater, a conservative Republican who supported the rights of gay troops: "I think the question should be not whether you are straight, but whether you shoot straight." Clinton spoke about the issue in response to a question from the audience during a campaign visit to Luther College. She also said she supported the right of gay Americans to join in civil unions, though she did not mention the more controversial idea of gay marriage.

The New York senator touched on numerous topics during a "town hall" talk before about 1,000 people in northeast Iowa.

"Some of the damage that has been done, we didn't know about. We didn't understand," she said. "But now we do, and we have no excuses left." She said she favors capping greenhouse-gas emissions and financing alternative-energy research with money now going to subsidize oil companies.

Clinton criticized the Bush administration on numerous fronts, including education, taxation and the Iraq war. She described "a heartbreaking development," in which former allies have turned away from the United States because of President Bush's overbearing approach to diplomacy.

She also spoke about the need for universal health care, noting that she led an effort to create such a system when her husband was president.

Audience member Rita Tejada brought her daughters? Lara, 9, and Rita Marie, 11, to see someone who might become the nation's first female president.

Tejada said Clinton should stress the health care issue more. The Luther College Spanish teacher said that the subject will be among the most crucial in the election and that Clinton has the best chance of achieving universal health care. "She has the experience from before," Tejada said.

Dick Guilgot of Decorah said he probably will support Clinton. "I think she's the best, common-sense, moderate Democrat," he said.

Guilgot believes Clinton could win both the nomination and the general election, although he acknowledged some Democrats' fears that she would turn off too many independents.

"I think it's going to be a challenge," he said. "There's a negative factor she can't deny."
 
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-04-22-clinton-iowa_N.htm

Duh! She's a lesbian.

I know people that have worked at the White House who have seen things.


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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2007, 10:36:33 AM »
then i'm voting for her.  lesbians are awesome!
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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2007, 10:40:09 AM »
then i'm voting for her.  lesbians are awesome!

Correction:

Hot lip stick lesbians are awesome.

Fat, ugly, wrinkled dykes are teh nasty.




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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2007, 11:18:42 AM »
Duh! She's a lesbian.

I know people that have worked at the White House who have seen things.



Really?   :o  That would be a bombshell. 

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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2007, 11:50:24 AM »
Really?   :o  That would be a bombshell. 

No it won't.

Because the media will never look into it and anyone who comes forward will be ripped to bloody pieces by Clinton's thugs.


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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2007, 02:21:40 PM »
Fools!  Servicemen who oppose gays and lesbians in the military should be sent on repeated extended tours of duty in Iraq until they are killed or until they change their minds about gays in the military.  That will solve the disharmony/unit cohesion problem.

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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2007, 06:47:33 PM »
MILITARY POLICY: DONT ASK DONT TELL

If I am surrounded by a group of militants with guns. A gay soldier is about to take them out, but I scream to him no dont that because that would make me look bad. Yeah right ::) If you are willing to put your life on the line for me, then you are okay with me. Now if you go around acting all "gayish" all the time, then we have a big problem ;D

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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2007, 06:52:49 PM »
MILITARY POLICY: DONT ASK DONT TELL

If I am surrounded by a group of militants with guns. A gay soldier is about to take them out, but I scream to him no dont that because that would make me look bad. Yeah right ::) If you are willing to put your life on the line for me, then you are okay with me. Now if you go around acting all "gayish" all the time, then we have a big problem ;D

exactly.

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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2007, 09:23:15 PM »
I know people that have worked at the White House who have seen things.

Hillary with Oprah? 

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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2007, 08:53:34 AM »
Keep it in the closet.......openly gay won't work.
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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2007, 08:58:28 AM »
Keep it in the closet.......openly gay won't work.

It works other places, and in the US military it's easy to think it won't work.  But it will whether they want it to or not.  They said the same things  when it came to integration in 1947.

The military will whine about it, make a case, etc....  but in the end it will work. 

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Re: Clinton backs gays in military
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2007, 08:59:39 AM »
Duh! She's a lesbian.

I know people that have worked at the White House who have seen things.



shes a lesbo and he fucks fat chicks.  what a couple!
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