World class figure girls.

[G o a t b o y]

The only supplements I take are from bsn

You wouldn't happen to be sponsored by BSN, would you? 

[antcraw]

Er, no, we don't....
its just that people from outside NY tend to be verrry sensitive...something we NY'ers are NOT.

 

yes you are NY women = golddiggers always

[pumpher]

fitness >>> figure

I have way more respect for fitness competitors. It takes way more athletic ability ("athletic" by any definition

[sgt. d]

Er, no, we don't....
its just that people from outside NY tend to be verrry sensitive...something we NY'ers are NOT.

 

 

[whateva]

fitness >>> figure

I have way more respect for fitness competitors. It takes way more athletic ability ("athletic" by any definition

figure >>>>fitness     (same benefits , less work )

[CQ]

fitness >>> figure

I have way more respect for fitness competitors. It takes way more athletic ability ("athletic" by any definition

Thanks, and I agree. Figure is far from easy of course, but fitness definitely requires more athletic ability.

figure >>>>fitness     (same benefits , less work )

I actually get greater prizes/$$ than the figure competitors, so that doesn't apply in my region. Plus, it's personal satisfaction anyway, from achieving something that I want to do....'the road less traveled'

[Matt C]

This is what I'm talking about...this is a girl I know.  Put her on anavar and clen for 12 weeks and no one in the general public as well as 99%  of fans of bodybuilding who have a definite eye for bodybuilding would be able to tell the difference between her and Ms. International.

I'm not saying that subtle distinction doesn't take years of work, I'm just saying it is exactly that - subtle.

[Benny B]

This is what I'm talking about...this is a girl I know.  Put her on anavar and clen for 12 weeks and no one in the general public as well as 99%  of fans of bodybuilding who have a definite eye for bodybuilding would be able to tell the difference between her and Ms. International.

I'm not saying that subtle distinction doesn't take years of work, I'm just saying it is exactly that - subtle.

She would look skinny compared to the pro girls after 12 weeks on anavar and clen. I hear what you're saying, but you're overstating the fact. The overdeveloped delts...rounded glutes with do fat/cellulite lines...those things this girl could not acheive in 12 weeks. Maybe she could do damage at the local level, but at the national level she'd need more time.

[CQ]

I agree with Benny, at a local level, without really seeing what the rest of her body looks like, I would say she could maybe hold her own in figure after 12 weeks of intensive work...but at the ASC level no way. I think your earlier point was good Matt, that some things which may appear to not be that hard, actually are. Below, are pics of the figure competitor who placed 5th in the ASC.....attaining this physique takes a huge amount of effort, time etc..and barring some super human genetics would take years of concentrated efforts..

[Devon97]

This is what I'm talking about...this is a girl I know.  Put her on anavar and clen for 12 weeks and no one in the general public as well as 99%  of fans of bodybuilding who have a definite eye for bodybuilding would be able to tell the difference between her and Ms. International.

I'm not saying that subtle distinction doesn't take years of work, I'm just saying it is exactly that - subtle.

No way. And you know this how Matt? Because you have performed this "experiment" with SO many women?  Because you have prepped soooooo many figure/fitness girls???
I love it when a drug free for life like yourself who has NEVER prepped a single female for a national level show before tries to make some outrageous claim.

[Mars]

These "women" look horrible, short, skinny, no ass, no tits, no life.

[CQ]

I think Valerie [pictured] is beautiful. The shredded onstage look is not everyone's preference of course, but one thing about looking like that onstage means you walk around offseason with a seriously nice toned physique imo. Same girl, in an offstage condition:

[Devon97]

I think Valerie [pictured] is beautiful. The shredded onstage look is not everyone's preference of course, but one thing about looking like that onstage means you walk around offseason with a seriously nice toned physique imo. Same girl, in an offstage condition:

Agreed..... HOWEVER unfortunately MANY girls who get into excellent condition for shows usually hit rock bottom with in 8 weeks a/f their show. You see a pic of them from their show and a current pic of them and think wow cant be the same girl. Ive seen some girls pack on 30 plus lbs. We are talking girls who are 5'2-5'5.

[babydoc]

Depends on genetic skill level and strength etc I think. Some girls, like Monica Brant started training for them and mastered them in a few years.  I personally have been doing it since childhood, 20 odd years and mine still look horrible could be improved

I agree, CQ.  Depends on the person.  For me, it took about a year to pick up most of the basics (round off back handsprings, standing back tucks, aerials).  But, that was working one-on-one with a coach 3x/week. 

I also see the author of the thread's point of view about figure.  I think it started off as something good, ie, fitness physique without the routine.  However, it has morphed into something completely different: a competition where bone structure is the primary judging criteria.

And, I have known trainers who have taken girls that never really trained, put them on anavar, clen, GH, test site injections, etc.............and they swept all the local and regional shows...........for a short time.  After 3-4 shows, the drug use really started to show (along with the lack of consistency in training), and the placings started to drop.  Then?  It was time for the trainers to pick another scrawny girl and start from scratch.

[slaveboy1980]

CQ: do you like straight leg deadlifts

[ripitupbaby]

I agree with Benny, at a local level, without really seeing what the rest of her body looks like, I would say she could maybe hold her own in figure after 12 weeks of intensive work...but at the ASC level no way. I think your earlier point was good Matt, that some things which may appear to not be that hard, actually are. Below, are pics of the figure competitor who placed 5th in the ASC.....attaining this physique takes a huge amount of effort, time etc..and barring some super human genetics would take years of concentrated efforts..

INCREDIBLE pics of Valerie, she is amazing!

[CQ]

CQ: do you like straight leg deadlifts

I dread to think why you could be asking this [] but yes I do, I find them highly effective.

I agree, CQ.  Depends on the person.  For me, it took about a year to pick up most of the basics (round off back handsprings, standing back tucks, aerials).  But, that was working one-on-one with a coach 3x/week. 

Wow, I hate you, 1 year to learn those moves is excellent! Good for you.

I also see the author of the thread's point of view about figure.  I think it started off as something good, ie, fitness physique without the routine.  However, it has morphed into something completely different: a competition where bone structure is the primary judging criteria.

And, I have known trainers who have taken girls that never really trained, put them on anavar, clen, GH, test site injections, etc.............and they swept all the local and regional shows...........for a short time.  After 3-4 shows, the drug use really started to show (along with the lack of consistency in training), and the placings started to drop.  Then?  It was time for the trainers to pick another scrawny girl and start from scratch.

It seems not politically correct to say, but I see his point of view as well. Like you, I've seen that same thing. Also with figure I find even attempting to sort out the judging to be fruitless, as it gives the word subjective a whole new meaning.

[Lundgren]

this shit is so gay. YOu have to have some seriouis muscle dimorphia to wanna see a woman dieted down to the point wehre she has no ass and no tittys and all in the nameo f having a taper v. This shit is retarted. A woman's body means ass and tits,  and curvets not big shoulders no hips and no tits.

[antcraw]

this shit is so gay. YOu have to have some seriouis muscle dimorphia to wanna see a woman dieted down to the point wehre she has no ass and no tittys and all in the nameo f having a taper v. This shit is retarted. A woman's body means ass and tits,  and curvets not big shoulders no hips and no tits.

bump for the truth

[Benny B]

Aww...did some girl from NYC cuss you out and break your heart?

[Camel Jockey]

Aww...did some girl from NYC cuss you out and break your heart?

Probably some mutt from the Bronx.

Er, no, we don't....
its just that people from outside NY tend to be verrry sensitive...something we NY'ers are NOT.

Bullshit. With the exception of the city and certain areas of Queens and Brooklyn, NYC is pretty much a shithole. Nothing to do with sensitivity and everything to do with rude people who aren't too smart.

[Benny B]

Probably some mutt from the Bronx.

Bullshit. With the exception of the city and certain areas of Queens and Brooklyn, NYC is pretty much a shithole. Nothing to do with sensitivity and everything to do with rude people who aren't too smart.

Thanks for sharing.
It's good to know New Yorkers won't have to worry about sharing the streets with awesome person like you. 

[MindSpin]

OK! If you really mean it!  ... I'm not really *new* here, I read but never post...?

I live in NYC, I'm 30, 5'10, I love sports (especially baseball!!! YANKEES) and I compete 100% NATURAL in figure competitions!
My background is gymnastics...I never work out arms...and I am addicted to Oreos from the freezer!
I eat them pre-competition!
The only supplements I take are from bsn
I live for bikinis and Brazilians...and I don't mean the people.

I have no aspirations in this sport other than to have fun - and that is the honest to god truth. That's why, against the recommendations of the powers-that-be...I REFUSE to "put on more muscle." NO THANKS. I'll just live with what working out consistently results in for my body

Thats all...I think!

Carry on...

Ha ha ha!  You forgot your horoscope sign, favorite color, hobbies & stuff like that.  Please go on

[Camel Jockey]

Thanks for sharing.
It's good to know New Yorkers won't have to worry about sharing the streets with awesome person like you. 

They already have the privilege.

[gordiano]

It's fitness Slaveboy, and trust me those girls are very athletic!

One more pic to complete my mini fitness girl meltdown

I agree with CQ. The Fitness girls are athletic, unlike the men (pro bbers).