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Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« on: May 18, 2007, 07:33:00 AM »
Bush budget officials said the administration “strongly opposes” both the 3.5 percent raise for 2008 and the follow-on increases, calling extra pay increases “unnecessary.”

The White House says it also opposes:

– a $40/month allowance for military survivors, saying the current benefits are “sufficient”

– additional benefits for surviving family members of civilian employees

– price controls for prescription drugs under TRICARE, the military’s health care plan for military personnel and their dependents

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/05/military_payhike_whitehouse_070516/

http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=391
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2007, 07:36:09 AM »
Yeah fuck him..that raise will be about an extra $200 a month cash to me. We don't get paid enough.
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2007, 07:40:02 AM »
Once this gets out more..they will back off...it will be a PR nightmare that the Whitehouse can't afford.
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2007, 07:42:47 AM »
Quote from: headhuntersix on May 18, 2007, 07:36:09 AM
Yeah fuck him..that raise will be about an extra $200 a month cash to me. We don't get paid enough.

The legislation passed in the House with a vote of  397-27.

The Bush Administration says that your compensation is "sufficient". 

Think about that for a moment.  You've got people putting their life on the line every f'ng day, working loonngg days, away from their families for extended periods, many have had their tours extended etc....

The proposed pay raise won't even cover core inflation or the rise in the cost of gas.

Then again, they have no problem with "cost plus" contracts for Haliburton, etc....

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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2007, 07:49:28 AM »
He won't veto....
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2007, 07:51:34 AM »
Quote from: headhuntersix on May 18, 2007, 07:49:28 AM
He won't veto....

Perhaps - but the threat of a veto and the comments show his true colors
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2007, 07:55:01 AM »
In other news, Bush kicked his dog this morning and cursed out the maid.
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2007, 08:00:52 AM »
Quote from: Old_Rooster on May 18, 2007, 07:55:01 AM
In other news, Bush kicked his dog this morning and cursed out the maid.

Bush would never kick Barney - he's one of the few supporters Bush has left

http://www.whitehouse.gov/barney/

btw - legislation passed the House with ~ 94% of the members voting in favor
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2007, 08:40:03 AM »
92% of congress says the troops need a pay raise.

white house disagrees.

odd.
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2007, 09:26:53 AM »
Quote from: headhuntersix on May 18, 2007, 07:40:02 AM
Once this gets out more..they will back off...it will be a PR nightmare that the Whitehouse can't afford.

I agree.  That's just stupid.  Clinton tried the same thing then backtracked.  This would be a HUGE mistake. 
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2007, 11:22:40 AM »
Fvcking southern Democrat.  >:(

Reagan would have punched him in the neck.

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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2007, 02:58:15 PM »
Elections have consequences. How many of you alleged conservatives that are whining about this voted for the a$$hole. ???  :-\
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2007, 04:26:22 PM »
Being military I will take the raise but he only wants to cut it .5 percent from 3.5 to 3.0. Honestly if it helps to keep MWR programs and training alive (items being cut daily) I will sacrifice the .5%
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2007, 09:19:39 AM »
Quote from: AE on May 18, 2007, 02:58:15 PM
Elections have consequences. How many of you alleged conservatives that are whining about this voted for the a$$hole. ???  :-\

Like Algore or Heinz-Kerry was a better alternative.  ::)

The military gets fucked by both parties.

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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2007, 09:46:22 AM »
Quote from: w8tlftr on May 19, 2007, 09:19:39 AM
Like Algore or Heinz-Kerry was a better alternative.  ::)
The military gets fucked by both parties.

Under the repubs, the military loses 3400 folks in Iraq.  The war companies get RICH!
Under the dems, the military loses far less men, but the war companies don't get rich.

I guess you have to ask yourself - is Bush doing what the war companies (including cheney's haliburton) want, or what the people want (you know, the majority of americans who want us to leave iraq).?

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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2007, 11:40:31 AM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on May 18, 2007, 09:26:53 AM
I agree.  That's just stupid.  Clinton tried the same thing then backtracked.  This would be a HUGE mistake. 

Why the hell are you even bringing up Clinton?  ::)
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2007, 11:51:46 AM »
Quote from: Camel  Jockey on May 19, 2007, 11:40:31 AM
Why the hell are you even bringing up Clinton?  ::)

Because he's an assclown who's wife rides his coat tails!
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2007, 12:02:51 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on May 19, 2007, 11:51:46 AM
Because he's an assclown who's wife rides his coat tails!

  That's the best you could come up with in this thread? The truth about Bush hurts, dunnit?
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2007, 12:03:33 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on May 19, 2007, 11:51:46 AM
Because he's an assclown who's wife rides his coat tails!

Try to argue about the topic at hand.  ::)
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2007, 01:43:02 PM »
Quote from: Camel  Jockey on May 19, 2007, 11:40:31 AM
Why the hell are you even bringing up Clinton?  ::)

Because I was a soldier in the Army when Clinton tried this, Einstein. 
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2007, 03:04:53 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on May 19, 2007, 01:43:02 PM
Because I was a soldier in the Army when Clinton tried this, Einstein. 

You can't admit Bush's faults without a reference to something Clinton did can you? And didn't you vote for Clinton twice?  ::)
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2007, 03:09:43 PM »
Quote from: Camel  Jockey on May 19, 2007, 03:04:53 PM
You can't admit Bush's faults without a reference to something Clinton did can you? And didn't you vote for Clinton twice?  ::)

What??   ???  Try reading my post again, particularly this part:  "That's just stupid." 

I then referenced Clinton, based on my personal experience, to highlight how something like this would never fly.  There was near mutiny in the ranks when Clinton tried this.  Bush would face the same kind of problems.

And yes I voted for Clinton twice, but you wouldn't know anything about that, because you were in diapers.  What's your point? 
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2007, 03:18:58 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on May 19, 2007, 03:09:43 PM
What??   ???  Try reading my post again, particularly this part:  "That's just stupid." 

I then referenced Clinton, based on my personal experience, to highlight how something like this would never fly.  There was near mutiny in the ranks when Clinton tried this.  Bush would face the same kind of problems.

And yes I voted for Clinton twice, but you wouldn't know anything about that, because you were in diapers.  What's your point? 

OH! Okay.

I was in diapers during Regan's reign.  8) Back then, we were hardcore using cloth and safety pins and all.
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2007, 03:22:50 PM »
Quote from: Camel  Jockey on May 19, 2007, 03:18:58 PM
OH! Okay.

I was in diapers during Regan's reign.  8) Back then, we were hardcore using cloth and safety pins and all.

We tried to use cloth diapers with our first kid.  Lasted about two days.  Absolutely disgusting.   :)
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Re: Bush Threatens Veto Over Troop Pay Raise, Military Widow Benefits
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2007, 03:27:45 PM »
Quote from: egj13 on May 18, 2007, 04:26:22 PM
Being military I will take the raise but he only wants to cut it .5 percent from 3.5 to 3.0. Honestly if it helps to keep MWR programs and training alive (items being cut daily) I will sacrifice the .5%

With the amount of money that the US spends on Defense, (even when unneeded) I think you should get MORE.

There's no reason the military can't get fucking 5 or 10 percent, plus better benefits for families of dead soldiers, and still get all of the equipment you need.

That's bullshit.

Are we there for the oil or not?

Fuck... at least get what you can out of it.

Quote from: Beach Bum on May 18, 2007, 09:26:53 AM
I agree.  That's just stupid.  Clinton tried the same thing then backtracked.  This would be a HUGE mistake. 

Anyone saying the military men don't deserve a raise are not thinking clearly... period. It's certainly not about the US budget... That's already fucked as is, so what's a few extra percentage points to their salaries.
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