Armand Tanny - able to clean a 300lb barbell with 1 hand

[Scimowser]

according to Flex anyway! Was reading through the March 2005 edition and it says he was able to clean a 300lb barbell with 1 hand (circa the 40's or 50's). Thoughts?

[Knives]

nothing your average getbigger can't do

[pumpher]

I can clean a 300lb barbell with 1 hand.

I use windex spray with my other hand. Rust can be a bitch though.

[BB]

Did Joe Roark write that? If not take it with a grain of salt. Tanny could 1 handed C/J in the 245-255 range dumbbell, and did so at a contest in Ny, I believe.

[D_1000]

Nothing but a peanut.

[The Squadfather]

according to Flex anyway! Was reading through the March 2005 edition and it says he was able to clean a 300lb barbell with 1 hand (circa the 40's or 50's). Thoughts?

[slaveboy1980]

1950s version of mr cicherillo

[dzulboy]

i did 135 in college   pretty easy with out trainging for it   (on a bet)  i am sure icould be possible by some one like kazmier   bu tnot by that dude in the pic

[chris_mason]

I am going to go with NO.

[wes]

On June 25th and 26th the 1949 Mr. Professional Championships were held, which included both lifting and bodybuilding posing. John C. Grimek a possible contender had to miss it due to wife Angela's illness. It was held at the Embassy Auditorium and acts included Pudgy Stockton demonstrating lifting for ladies, and Armand Tanny single arm cleaning 250 lbs.

[The Squadfather]

On June 25th and 26th the 1949 Mr. Professional Championships were held, which included both lifting and bodybuilding posing. John C. Grimek a possible contender had to miss it due to wife Angela's illness. It was held at the Embassy Auditorium and acts included Pudgy Stockton demonstrating lifting for ladies, and Armand Tanny single arm cleaning 250 lbs.

i would believe that he could have cleaned a 250 pound long dumbbell kind of like the kind Paul Anderson and Chuck Ahrens used to lift but there is no human on earth, Kazmaier included, who could one arm clean a 300 pound 7 foot Olympic barbell, not in a million years.

[Joe Roark]

There is no question- at least among those who have some knowledge of Tanny's past PUBLIC performances that he managed a 300 pound one hand clean. These were not private sessions with no witnesses, but were in situations among other lifters using the weights they used.

It had long been a goal of his and he worked his way heavier and heavier, with public performances on more than one occasion managing 280 lbs in the one arm clean. Then in 1951 he accomplished 300.

The comparison to Anderson is unfair- TO ANDERSON, who did not at all have the grip needed to ONE HAND clean an Olympic barbell loaded to 300- all of Anderson's heavy dumbell lifts were brought to the shoulder with two hands and then put overhead with one- well not actually overhead- more to the side, with an un-locked elbow, and if you have seen the dumbell Anderson lifted and you believe it weighed much more than 200, then we disagree on that also.

[The Squadfather]

There is no question- at least among those who have some knowledge of Tanny's past PUBLIC performances that he managed a 300 pound one hand clean. These were not private sessions with no witnesses, but were in situations among other lifters using the weights they used.

It had long been a goal of his and he worked his way heavier and heavier, with public performances on more than one occasion managing 280 lbs in the one arm clean. Then in 1951 he accomplished 300.

The comparison to Anderson is unfair- TO ANDERSON, who did not at all have the grip needed to ONE HAND clean an Olympic barbell loaded to 300- all of Anderson's heavy dumbell lifts were brought to the shoulder with two hands and then put overhead with one- well not actually overhead- more to the side, with an un-locked elbow, and if you have seen the dumbell Anderson lifted and you believe it weighed much more than 200, then we disagree on that also.

hahahahahaha, ok Joe you're claiming that a 5'9" 187 pound guy could outclean one of the strongest human beings who ever walked on the planet a 5'9" 390 pound mountain who squatted 1000 pounds, benched 630  pulled 1000 pound deadlift with hooks on his hands and shoulder pressed 435 with almost no knee kick?

[chris_mason]

hahahahahaha, ok Joe you're claiming that a 5'9" 187 pound guy could outclean one of the strongest human beings who ever walked on the planet a 5'9" 390 pound mountain who squatted 1000 pounds, benched 630  pulled 1000 pound deadlift with hooks on his hands and shoulder pressed 435 with almost no knee kick?

Squad, Joe knows his shit.  Trust me. 

Armand most likely could not handle much above 300 lbs with both hands.  There is not a big correlation between what one can do with 1 hand and 2.

Chris

[Joe Roark]

hahahahahaha, ok Joe you're claiming that a 5'9" 187 pound guy could outclean one of the strongest human beings who ever walked on the planet a 5'9" 390 pound mountain who squatted 1000 pounds, benched 630  pulled 1000 pound deadlift with hooks on his hands and shoulder pressed 435 with almost no knee kick?

Anderson was stronger than Armand in many movements, of course. But Anderson's weak point was his grip, which is essential in a one arm clean. Sticking to the point of this thread, I will ignore the other lifts you attribute to Anderson to remain focused on the point at hand (no pun). I think Paul could outsquat, outbench, and out deadlift Armand. I know Armand could out one arm clean Paul.

What poundage in the one arm clean by Paul do you think exceeded the known amount by Armand? I have never heard of Paul, or even his fans, claiming that he could clean 300 one handed. Since it is known, and was witnessed that Armand could clean 300 one handed, unless there is a lift by Paul of this type that exceeds 300, then we have no comparison.

[Dballn247]

according to Flex anyway! Was reading through the March 2005 edition and it says he was able to clean a 300lb barbell with 1 hand (circa the 40's or 50's). Thoughts?

All Drugs!!!

[Joe Roark]

Squad, Joe knows his shit.  Trust me. 

Armand most likely could not handle much above 300 lbs with both hands.  There is not a big correlation between what one can do with 1 hand and 2.

Chris

When Armand weighed 210 in the late 1940s his best two arm press was 270, two arm snatch 280, and two arm clean and jerk 360.
There is, as Chris mentions, not much correlation between one and two handed cleans, and depending on the agility and speed of the lifter, some seemingly amazing one handed cleans can be accomplished, especially if you work on it for a full decade as Armand did.