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No prize money for pro shows?
« on: May 27, 2007, 05:50:42 PM »
Other than the Olympia and the Arnold Classic for obvious reasons I think that the rest of the pro shows should have no prize money. Now, before everyone gets their panties in a bunch here are my thoughts. First I am not 100% sure that this is the best thing to do just some food for thought.

About 90% of the guys who enter these shows not only realize that they are not going to make the top 5, but also know that they are spending a sizable amount of income to be there. The are not entering these shows for the money. Most are doing it to qualify and the rest are doing it because they love what they do. Most pay their way and are not sponsored. Almost always the top guys who win are the sponsored guys anyway so even though they are making some money they are also looking to qualify first and are making a good income already.

The next thing to consider would be who would enter these shows if there was no money. Like I stated already there are plenty of guy who need to qualify so there would be no lack of competitors. Most of the top guys won't be there anyway since they have already qualified at the Olympia and AC. I think that instead of handing out prize money the promotors should pay for a certain amount of the expenses. Maybe hotel and food and plane tickets if possible for all of the competitors.



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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2007, 05:53:46 PM »
Just because King has no chance of ever winning any prize money...    ;D
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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2007, 05:54:43 PM »
Pro bodybuilding will die out soon, when guys realize its not worth risking their health and spending $$$ for "supplements" for no proze money, and no salary as most "pros" get... The promoters are ripping them all off...Heck I laughed when I saw the corny cheesey cheap plaques they were giving out to the amateurs at the Keystone (Mr Lehigh Valley)...only the overall class winner got some nice trophy..all the top 5 winners got some corny cheap looking plaque...

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2007, 05:54:53 PM »
Just because King has no chance of ever winning any prize money...    ;D

I swear to God I knew you were gonna say that.  ;D

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2007, 05:55:51 PM »
I swear to God I knew you were gonna say that.  ;D


At least I'm predictable!  ;D
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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2007, 05:58:13 PM »
I swear to God I knew you were gonna say that.  ;D
just don't ask him for a picture though Jim, he's in a VERY sensitive job and he can't risk anyone knowing who he is but he's 225 pounds at 1 percent bodyfat and moves huge weights and also runs 10 miles a day but you'll have to trust him on that. ;D

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2007, 06:00:52 PM »
just don't ask him for a picture though Jim, he's in a VERY sensitive job and he can't risk anyone knowing who he is but he's 225 pounds at 1 percent bodyfat and moves huge weights and also runs 10 miles a day but you'll have to trust him on that. ;D

He sent me this pic of him as a baby so I guess we still don't realy know what he looks like as an adult.  ;D

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2007, 06:06:52 PM »
Just because King has no chance of ever winning any prize money...    ;D

That was a good one Goat! 

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2007, 06:08:25 PM »
That was a good one Goat! 

I don't think that he was trying to impress you Sean.

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2007, 06:09:37 PM »
hahahahahahaha, that picture always cracks me up. ;D

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2007, 06:10:13 PM »
I don't think that he was trying to impress you Sean.

Nice to see you can cut and paste.  Should you be compensated for your fine work?

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2007, 06:10:49 PM »
hahahahahahaha, that picture always cracks me up. ;D

That is a great picture of War-Pony. ::)

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2007, 06:10:58 PM »
Nice to see you can cut and paste.  Should you be compensated for your fine work?

Bro, that really isn't all that funny.  :-\

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2007, 06:13:27 PM »
just don't ask him for a picture though Jim, he's in a VERY sensitive job and he can't risk anyone knowing who he is but he's 225 pounds at 1 percent bodyfat and moves huge weights and also runs 10 miles a day but you'll have to trust him on that. ;D

as oppose to you of course, a 260 lbs piece of shit who sits on his ass eating potatoe chips all day

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2007, 06:14:56 PM »
Hmm.   good idea disgusted.     somethings gotta happen soon.

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2007, 06:18:24 PM »
Hmm.   good idea disgusted.     somethings gotta happen soon.

It wouldn't be the worst of ideas to take away the prize money and throw it back at all the competitors. Being a "pro" bodybuilder is not about the money. Hell, even some amateurs get sponsored over some of the pros and make way more money.

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2007, 06:19:54 PM »
It wouldn't be the worst of ideas to take away the prize money and throw it back at all the competitors. Being a "pro" bodybuilder is not about the money. Hell, even some amateurs get sponsored over some of the pros and make way more money.

Isn't this what the PDI is doing?

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2007, 06:20:38 PM »
Isn't this what the PDI is doing?

Not sure I know what you mean.

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2007, 06:24:07 PM »
Other than the Olympia and the Arnold Classic for obvious reasons I think that the rest of the pro shows should have no prize money. Now, before everyone gets their panties in a bunch here are my thoughts. First I am not 100% sure that this is the best thing to do just some food for thought.

About 90% of the guys who enter these shows not only realize that they are not going to make the top 5, but also know that they are spending a sizable amount of income to be there. The are not entering these shows for the money. Most are doing it to qualify and the rest are doing it because they love what they do. Most pay their way and are not sponsored. Almost always the top guys who win are the sponsored guys anyway so even though they are making some money they are also looking to qualify first and are making a good income already.

The next thing to consider would be who would enter these shows if there was no money. Like I stated already there are plenty of guy who need to qualify so there would be no lack of competitors. Most of the top guys won't be there anyway since they have already qualified at the Olympia and AC. I think that instead of handing out prize money the promotors should pay for a certain amount of the expenses. Maybe hotel and food and plane tickets if possible for all of the competitors.




Not quite sure i'm following your logic, Jim....what would be the point of taking the money away?

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2007, 06:25:00 PM »
Not sure I know what you mean.

PDI not paying prize money to compete.

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2007, 06:30:00 PM »
PDI not paying prize money to compete.

I wasn't aware the PDI didn't pay out prize money.

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2007, 06:33:09 PM »
Not quite sure i'm following your logic, Jim....what would be the point of taking the money away?

The money would be sent to the IFBB to be put towards a fund to make the "Athlete's Rep" a paid position.  ::)
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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2007, 06:42:49 PM »
Not quite sure i'm following your logic, Jim....what would be the point of taking the money away?

Like I said I am not saying that this is the greatest of ideas, but one reason would be to redistribute the money to all of the competitors so that they can at least get their expenses paid. It would not kill the top 5 guys as far as not getting any "prize" money. Like I said, 99% of the time the top 5 guys are the sponsored guys anyway who are making good money. The top 5 would still be getting their expenses paid too.

You have said before that you are not only working on getting the prize money higher for shows, but also to get the low placing guys to get something too. I think this was mainly for the Olympia. My way would get all the guys to at least get their expenses paid and it wouldn't cost anyone any more money, just a way of redistributing it. This would apply to all the shows excluding the Olympia and AC.

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2007, 06:44:19 PM »
The money would be sent to the IFBB to be put towards a fund to make the "Athlete's Rep" a paid position.  ::)

Well, I don't see where......huh? well...just hold on there a minute, maybe Jim's on to something...! ;D

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Re: No prize money for pro shows?
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2007, 06:48:31 PM »
Like I said I am not saying that this is the greatest of ideas, but one reason would be to redistribute the money to all of the competitors so that they can at least get their expenses paid. It would not kill the top 5 guys as far as not getting any "prize" money. Like I said, 99% of the time the top 5 guys are the sponsored guys anyway who are making good money. The top 5 would still be getting their expenses paid too.

You have said before that you are not only working on getting the prize money higher for shows, but also to get the low placing guys to get something too. I think this was mainly for the Olympia. My way would get all the guys to at least get their expenses paid and it wouldn't cost anyone any more money, just a way of redistributing it. This would apply to all the shows excluding the Olympia and AC.

Gotcha...I see your premise, but it wouldn't work for obvious reasons. I've got a few ideas of my own I've been working on, unfortunately, I cant really get into the details...

BUT...I think there are various ways to increase the earning power of athletes...one way is to try and have a "best entertainer" award, or a "best poser" award, or even the old "bodypart" prizes...some of the promoters have already been starting to do this....we (BB.com) have also had a "people's choice" winner for the fans to decide for themselves...