Golds Gym Venice - We CAN save our "MECCA"...... heres how.

[War-Horse]

First of all, Im speaking of the hardcore "weights only"  Golds on pacific ave.
not the aerobics, daisy duke, fag place that is.......

robinson, mentzer, zane, arnold, corney, viator, banout, grant.....etc.   They have all talked of having the doors open and the sea air rushing in while working out....You can re-live this.

I propose all bb websites to set up a donation to save our home......If around the world $20 dollars each was sent in to restore the building to its original state, we could find building contractors like my self to participate in this re-on struction....for free.

Im sure enough could be raised to buy the building and have joe golds equipment moved in.

All the old pics of grymkowski, padilla and all.......could be on the wall of the same spot your standing in......I would donate alot of old muscle builder power mags to replicate the gym.


Now because of the size of the building, it would be "weights only" and if advertised right, people would plan on coming around the world, we could set reservations for workouts...but walk-thrus anytime.   For instance if i know ill be in venice   on 8-18-07......i would call to get a spot reserved for 2-3pm.

This would allow about 20 people an hour or so, to come and go.    The current stars could be there at set times to sell picture and autographs.....$$$$MOney..

The weakness in this plan is, I dont know how to handle the donation raised....could we set up a NON - Profit org...... or something.    Could we propose to get a grant from the city for historical reasons...like muscle beach??

Those of you in the finace world could get that part of it done.

This is possible guys!!!     Lets find a way, before its too late.

[kiwiol]

I'll do what I can mate. You need to gimme a week and I'll get back to you with something concrete

In return, you will have to say how the SQUAD is superior to 'tiny' tits like you and how we've made you cry like a little girl in the past with our vicious ownings

[timfogarty]

it's a private residence, not for sale, and worth around $2 million.

[The Coach]

First of all, Im speaking of the hardcore "weights only"  Golds on pacific ave.
not the aerobics, daisy duke, fag place that is.......

robinson, mentzer, zane, arnold, corney, viator, banout, grant.....etc.   They have all talked of having the doors open and the sea air rushing in while working out....You can re-live this.

I propose all bb websites to set up a donation to save our home......If around the world $20 dollars each was sent in to restore the building to its original state, we could find building contractors like my self to participate in this re-on struction....for free.

Im sure enough could be raised to buy the building and have joe golds equipment moved in.

All the old pics of grymkowski, padilla and all.......could be on the wall of the same spot your standing in......I would donate alot of old muscle builder power mags to replicate the gym.


Now because of the size of the building, it would be "weights only" and if advertised right, people would plan on coming around the world, we could set reservations for workouts...but walk-thrus anytime.   For instance if i know ill be in venice   on 8-18-07......i would call to get a spot reserved for 2-3pm.

This would allow about 20 people an hour or so, to come and go.    The current stars could be there at set times to sell picture and autographs.....$$$$MOney..

The weakness in this plan is, I dont know how to handle the donation raised....could we set up a NON - Profit org...... or something.    Could we propose to get a grant from the city for historical reasons...like muscle beach??

Those of you in the finace world could get that part of it done.

This is possible guys!!!     Lets find a way, before its too late.

Buy it!

[The Coach]

it's a private residence, not for sale, and worth around $2 million.

Everyone has a price!

[War-Horse]

it's a private residence, not for sale, and worth around $2 million.

It would be for sale with the right money......2 million could be raised over time, easy...were talking world wide.

Shawn perine PM'd me and said he had a connection to the owner and it was stated that  the right money is fien but he wouldnt want to do any work re-converting....we could donate to get this done.

[kiwiol]

It would be for sale with the right money......2 million could be raised over time, easy...were talking world wide.

Shawn perine PM'd me and said he had a connection to the owner and it was stated that  the right money is fien but he wouldnt want to do any work re-converting....we could donate to get this done.

Hey, I was being serious about the first statement

[War-Horse]

Everyone has a price!

Exactly.  If all bb websites were set up with this notice...we could easily raise the money at $20 dollars each......Then i would pay to have a workout there easily $20 dollars in tha same spot as the champs.

[War-Horse]

I'll do what I can mate. You need to gimme a week and I'll get back to you with something concrete

In return, you will have to say how the SQUAD is superior to 'tiny' tits like you and how we've made you cry like a little girl in the past with our vicious ownings

I would love to work on this with you kiwi......It could even be a money maker with the current stars setting up definite times to sell their goods.

Say Markus Ruhl is set for  5-12-07......ruhl fans from the U.S. couls be there for him.....and on and on it goes.......each star and fan base ready to go.....


People usually plan vacations far out anyway.   Im on to something and may start looking for investors if people dont see the opportunity.....


THE SQUAD MADE ME CRY LIKE A LITTLE GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kiwiol]

I would love to work on this with you kiwi......It could even be a money maker with the current stars setting up definite times to sell their goods.

Say Markus Ruhl is set for  5-12-07......ruhl fans from the U.S. couls be there for him.....and on and on it goes.......each star and fan base ready to go.....


People usually plan vacations far out anyway.   Im on to something and may start looking for investors if people dont see the opportunity.....


THE SQUAD MADE ME CRY LIKE A LITTLE GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, now that the important part has been done, we'll go to the next step .

Mate, just gimme a week. I am not promising anything, but I'll look into it and I'll definitely get back to you.

Didn't think you'd admit the other thing so shamelessly and without the slightest bit of hesitation - a man after my own heart

[War-Horse]

OK, now that the important part has been done, we'll go to the next step .

Mate, just gimme a week. I am not promising anything, but I'll look into it and I'll definitely get back to you.

Didn't think you'd admit the other thing so shamelessly and without the slightest bit of hesitation - a man after my own heart

LOL.    Im on to something and may take a trip ther very soon...its a short trip.

          The investor idea might be better......profits i could see for them.

          I could be in charge of the reconstruction and mange the gym too possibly

To everyone that thinks that because its a residence...it cant happen.........Your wrong...everyone has a number......so that s a small detail to a builder like moi 

[timfogarty]

$2,000,000 for the building

let's say you raise $400,000 for a down payment, and what ever is needed for refurbishment.

you finance $1.6 million for 30 years, that's about $10,000 a month

property tax in Los Angeles County is 1% of the sale price, or $20,000 a year or $1,666 a month

water, gas, electric, $500 a month (probably a bit low)

you need someone at the front desk for 12 to 18 hours a day.  Need to hire a janitor.   $14k a month payroll.

total monthly cost $26k

20 paying customers an hour, 18 hours a day, you'll have to charge $72 an hour

you pay for the building outright, you'll still have to charge $42 an hour

the gym was moved for a reason.  the building is way too small

oh, and there is no parking on Pacific, so you'll have to rent a nearby lot.

[Hunter86]

$2,000,000 for the building

let's say you raise $400,000 for a down payment, and what ever is needed for refurbishment.

you finance $1.6 million for 30 years, that's about $10,000 a month

property tax in Los Angeles County is 1% of the sale price, or $20,000 a year or $1,666 a month

water, gas, electric, $500 a month (probably a bit low)

you need someone at the front desk for 12 to 18 hours a day.  Need to hire a janitor.   $14k a month payroll.

total monthly cost $26k

20 paying customers an hour, 18 hours a day, you'll have to charge $72 an hour

you pay for the building outright, you'll still have to charge $42 an hour

the gym was moved for a reason.  the building is way too small

oh, and there is no parking on Pacific, so you'll have to rent a nearby lot.

arent we the devils advocate 

[War-Horse]

$2,000,000 for the building

let's say you raise $400,000 for a down payment, and what ever is needed for refurbishment.

you finance $1.6 million for 30 years, that's about $10,000 a month

property tax in Los Angeles County is 1% of the sale price, or $20,000 a year or $1,666 a month

water, gas, electric, $500 a month (probably a bit low)

you need someone at the front desk for 12 to 18 hours a day.  Need to hire a janitor.   $14k a month payroll.

total monthly cost $26k

20 paying customers an hour, 18 hours a day, you'll have to charge $72 an hour

you pay for the building outright, you'll still have to charge $42 an hour

the gym was moved for a reason.  the building is way too small

oh, and there is no parking on Pacific, so you'll have to rent a nearby lot.

No financing involved.   could be interest only on loan for 30 yrs, property as collateral.

Payroll is not that high.  1-2 people at desk...janitor included.   I could manage and setup the champs for signing deals and dates.


We could set it up to open on friday-sunday to lower costs......

We could get a shuttle bus donated for this to transport for parking.

Im a do-er...can you tell??

This doesnt have to be setup as a for profit corp.............it doesnt have to make money above expenses....but it will!!!

[War-Horse]

Reservations for the year would be setup on a website designed and maintained by a local "Getbigger"   this would of course be world wide.

This would  eliminate alot of phone calling...

[timfogarty]

No financing involved.   could be interest only on loan for 30 yrs, property as collateral.

that is still financing.  interest only loan on $1.6 million at 6% is $8k a month

Payroll is not that high.  1-2 people at desk...janitor included.   

yes it is.  this is Los Angeles.   

I could manage and setup the champs for signing deals and dates.

what champ is going to show up for 20 or even 40 people?   especially when maybe 5 will actually pay for an autograph.

We could set it up to open on friday-sunday to lower costs......

cost of the building and property tax is the same.  but now you have less money coming in

We could get a shuttle bus donated for this to transport for parking.

now you have the cost of mainaining a bus, and salary for a bus driver.   but even so, the city still requires you to provide parking spaces, even if they're miles away.  you still have to rent a lot.

[McFarland]

$2,000,000 for the building

let's say you raise $400,000 for a down payment, and what ever is needed for refurbishment.

you finance $1.6 million for 30 years, that's about $10,000 a month

property tax in Los Angeles County is 1% of the sale price, or $20,000 a year or $1,666 a month

water, gas, electric, $500 a month (probably a bit low)

you need someone at the front desk for 12 to 18 hours a day.  Need to hire a janitor.   $14k a month payroll.

total monthly cost $26k

20 paying customers an hour, 18 hours a day, you'll have to charge $72 an hour

you pay for the building outright, you'll still have to charge $42 an hour

the gym was moved for a reason.  the building is way too small

oh, and there is no parking on Pacific, so you'll have to rent a nearby lot.

PWNED.   

[War-Horse]

You are the "wind" beneath my wings...........

[Shawn_Perine]

I love the enthusiasm here. This is the kind of spirit that makes things happen. I don't know if the current tenant would even be willing to sell. I remember pricing the building about 4 years ago, when it was last on the market, for $1.5 mil. So with renos it's easily worth 2 right now. But if the guy who bought it can afford $1.5 he may have the money to not care if he was offered double that. It's sweet R.E. for a home- literally a block from the beach. Really, so much depends on what he feels is best for his family (he has a wife and young child).

I do think if you promoted the place the right way you could do a big tourist business. You would have to have a well stocked gift shop and a juice bar would be good too. There are a few public parking lots within blocks of the location and I'd bet you could work a deal with them- discounts for Gold's validation.

I'll see if I can speak with the owner of the building again. It's hit or miss whether I see him, but I will try.

[jaejonna]

I thought that Ballys was going out of business............


**Whew**********

[Stark]

$2,000,000 for the building

let's say you raise $400,000 for a down payment, and what ever is needed for refurbishment.

you finance $1.6 million for 30 years, that's about $10,000 a month

property tax in Los Angeles County is 1% of the sale price, or $20,000 a year or $1,666 a month

water, gas, electric, $500 a month (probably a bit low)

you need someone at the front desk for 12 to 18 hours a day.  Need to hire a janitor.   $14k a month payroll.

total monthly cost $26k

20 paying customers an hour, 18 hours a day, you'll have to charge $72 an hour

you pay for the building outright, you'll still have to charge $42 an hour

the gym was moved for a reason.  the building is way too small

oh, and there is no parking on Pacific, so you'll have to rent a nearby lot.

You know your stuff huh?

[benchmstr]

I thought that Ballys was going out of business............


**Whew**********

i was thinking more along the lines of "planet fitness"

bench

[Andre Nickatina]

Would many people donate to this? I sure as fuck would not. Nice idea though.

[War-Horse]

Would many people donate to this? I sure as fuck would not. Nice idea though.

Thats true.  Most Ice Skaters would not donate.

[Stark]

If you could find a way to give everybody who donates something in return, like an engraving in the wall or god know what..but something that makes it worth wile for the once in Europe as well.