Lex Luger Then and Now

[bmacsys]

His finisher was the "Torture Rack".

Does he get any disability form the NFL?  He used to play for the Rams.

Guys that had real NFL careers don't even get disability. Thats Why Butkus and Ditka are trying to raise public awareness about the old time NFL players.

[MCWAY]

His finisher was the "Torture Rack".

Does he get any disability form the NFL?  He used to play for the Rams.

You're both right about the finishing hold.

Luger was in a motorcycle accident a week before the 1992 WBF Championship, thus killing his guest-posing routine at that show. He ended up with an broken forearm that had to be surgically repaired with plates and screws, by the same guy who fixed (fixes) Triple H's knees.

When Luger debuted in the then-WWF (as the Narcissist) in 1993, that running elbow was his finishing move, with the angle that the plates in his right forearm ("unknown" for the first few months, until he knocked out Bret Hart, who later demanded that Luger's arm be investigated) allowed him to render his opponents unconscious.

[MCWAY]

true, but jim (warrior) was a huge draw and college educated with other business options.

His business ventures (including his college speaking tours) are based primarily on the Ultimate Warrior character, which the WWE nurtured and polished.

According to WWE, he was fired three times. The first time, in 1991, was due to a last-minute thread not to perform at SummerSlam, unless he was paid in advance. The second time, in 1992, the offense that got him canned was a violation of then-WWF's drug policy; The third time, in 1996, Warrior did not show up at several live events. He later cited the death of his father as the reason for his non-appearances. McMahon claimed that Warrior gave no one any advance notice of what happened and cited that (as far as he knew) Warrior hadn't spoken with his father in a decade and could less about him. So, in the boss' mind, Warrior just skipped out of his obligations and, when called on it, used his father's death as an excuse.

The Ultimate Warrior was supposed to be part of a six-man tag-team main event at a pay-per-view in Canada (In Your House: International Incident). Ironically enough, when Warrior got his "indefinite suspension", the WWE replaced him with....Psycho Sid.

[MCWAY]

once he came back to the wwe, then he wrastled in wcw and since vince bought them he hasn't stepped foot in a ring.  there is even a vid out there about how bad the warrior has screwed up his own career cause he's a nutcase.  if vince did give him another chance iit's cause he could make $$$ off of him.  that's the only reason

That DVD would be "The Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior".

[HUGEPECS]

I hope Lex the best of luck. at least he's still alive unlike the so-many young wrestlers who bite the dust so early.

[Sexual Mustard]

A good friend of mine actually served Lex Luger tacos when he went into our local taco shop back when we were 14! this was in MN.

[bic_staedtler]

....first watch this

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THEN watch this..if you can handle it (I couldn't)

THEN realize that life can kinda suck.  Get out of it what you can and try not to hurt anybody on the way out!

[Option D]

yes, for the most part, lex was a pumped up primadonna with no personality and void of real wrestling skills. from what i observed, few in the business respected him as a wrestler or a person. he burned one too many bridges.

notice how no one in the business has tried to assist him.

that speaks volumes.

Him and sting owned a gym in cobb county (north west of atlanta) called The Main Event. Goldberg worked there.... sold it in 04 i think//

[MCWAY]

no doubt jim had issue's, but so does everyone in that line of work.

vince's policy is: no one wrestler is bigger than the industry.

i remember when chyna demanded a raise to 800k........poof, she was gone, never to be seen again. vince always wins. 

McMahon states that, as a promoter, it is his responsibilty to present what he has advertised. So, if the marquee or the program has the Ultimate Warrior on it, then barring some unforseen emergency of which he (or some other WWE official) is notified in advance, McMahon expects the Ultimate Warrior to be there, face-painted, arms covered with tassels, running to the ring, shaking the ropes, and clotheslining his opponent silly.

Notwithstanding what happened in the much publicized tragedy last week, Chris Benoit told WWE officials that his wife and son were ill, before the Vengance pay-per-view. WWE let him go home and explained to the audience that Benoit would not be on the card due to his family being ill.

Had The Ultimate Warrior given somebody some notice, instead of simply no-showing, McMahon wouldn't have canned him in 1996, even if Warrior's relationship with his father was as bleak as McMahon claimed it was.

[MCWAY]

can you not see that jim wanted out of the business?

he could have easily shifted to WCW.

he chose otherwise.

Did you not see that he went to WCW in 1998?

Eric Bischoff tried to renegotiate with Warrior, regarding his future in WCW, off the heels of what Bischoff deemed as one of the worst matches of all time, Warrior's rematch with Hulk Hogan at WCW's Halloween Havoc .(all hyped up by the one match that made the Ultimate Warrior's career: The battle with Hogan at Wrestlemaina VI, in which he defeat the Hulkster, fair and square, for the WWF Championship....while still holding the Intercontinental Championship).

Simply put, Warrior asked for too much money, when his in-ring performance didn't justify it: a two-year layoff, followed by an abysmal performance at Halloween Havoc. His track record with WWE certainly didn't help matters. When Warrior's contract expired, Bischoff didn't renew, despite his expressed desire to keep him long-term (which he emphasized, to refute the claim that Warrior was only brought to WCW for Hogan to avenge his loss at Wrestlemania VI).

You don't go back to a wrestling federation twice (and get fired twice), going to a rival federation two years later, if you want out of the business. Then, there's the little matter of WCW folding in 2001, for signing guys like Warrior, former WWE superstars who were paid big bucks (for their one-time stardom in WWE) but gave pitiful performances in the ring with WCW.

Once McMahon bought WCW, any chance for a 5th comeback for the Ultimate Warrior, pretty much went south.

[MCWAY]

i thought we were talking about jim wanting out in 96, not 98.

nice spin.

Then all he had to do was resign, not fail to show up, when he was advertised at WWF events. That's unprofessional, no matter how much you slice it. And what could have possibly come up in the three or four months, in which he wrestled in 1996, that would make him want to leave?

"Wanting out of the business" means leaving professional wrestling ALTOGETHER, not getting fired from one company and joining another (much less his former employer's top rival) two years later.

Furthermore, Warrior couldn't initially use his now-legal name in WCW, which explains the lawsuit he filed shortly getting canned for the third time. And there's the aspect that, perhaps, WCW didn't have a need for Warrior......until mid/late '98, when WWE started beating WCW in the ratings again.

[Kwon]

Two months away from winning the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, after a show in Blackburn, Lancashire during a tour in the United Kingdom, Eudy was involved in a hotel bar scuffle with Arn Anderson. Sid attacked Anderson outside of his hotel room. Eudy stabbed Anderson over 20 times with a pair of safety scissors. Both were rushed to the hospital and survived the incident, Anderson suffered stab wounds to the face, chest, arms, stomach, and back.

Why use a scissor when you're that strong?

[MCWAY]

Then all he had to do was resign, not fail to show up, when he was advertised at WWF events. That's unprofessional, no matter how much you slice it. And what could have possibly come up in the three or four months, in which he wrestled in 1996, that would make him want to leave?

"Wanting out of the business" means leaving professional wrestling ALTOGETHER, not getting fired from one company and joining another (much less his former employer's top rival) two years later.

Furthermore, Warrior couldn't initially use his now-legal name in WCW, which explains the lawsuit he filed shortly getting canned for the third time. And there's the aspect that, perhaps, WCW didn't have a need for Warrior......until mid/late '98, when WWE started beating WCW in the ratings again.

And, it appears that Warrior hasn't lost his touch. He was supposed to appear on "Hannity and Colmes" tonight, joining a foresnic expert, another investigator, and Debra Marshall, former wife of "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. But, due to an "unforseen technical difficulty", he didn't appear on the show.

Imagine that: The Ultimate Warrior, not appearing where advertised. Now, H & C know how McMahon felt.

[Thin Lizzy]

Why use a scissor when you're that strong?

From reading your posts, my conclusion is that the Warrior wanted out of the business, but he didn't want out of the money that came as a result of being in the business.

[Bossa]

someone mentioned Lugers relationship w/ his family...I don;t know what that is but his son is 6'8" and plays NCAA basketball

[MCWAY]

From reading your posts, my conclusion is that the Warrior wanted out of the business, but he didn't want out of the money that came as a result of being in the business.

Steve "Brooklyn Brawler" Lombardi said something to that effect in The Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior DVD:

"I don't think Warrior had the love for the wrestling industry. I think he had love for the fame; I think he had the love for the money; I think he had love for bodybuilding. But, I'm not quite sure if he had the love for the WWE"

As stated earlier, if he wanted out of the business, he could have simply resigned (and given some notice). The Ultimate Warrior got fired THREE times by WWE for holding the company up for money before SummerSlam, failing a drug test, and not appearing where he was advertised.

Then, there's the little matter of the now-defunct Warrior University, the wrestling school he opened in Phoenix, Arizona. That doesn't sound like someone who wanted out of the business to me.

On top of all of that, he changed his name from Jim Helwig to "Warrior"; If you worked for McDonalds and wanted to get away from that company and the fast-food industry, you don't get fired for violating company policy, legally change your name to "Quarter Pounder" or "Big Mac", and sue to be able to use the assumed name to make money for yourself.

[MCWAY]

someone mentioned Lugers relationship w/ his family...I don;t know what that is but his son is 6'8" and plays NCAA basketball

I did. Luger's actions cost him his marriage and damaged the relationship with his kids (which he may or may not have fixed or reconciled). And, we know about the tragedy involving Miss Elizabeth.

[Hurricane Beef !]

WTF, did dude spend his million$'$ on?

This is what The Beef wonders. Lex was making millions per year and was at the top of his game for a long time.

The Beef

[MCWAY]

This is what The Beef wonders. Lex was making millions per year and was at the top of his game for a long time.

The Beef

Taxes, legal fees (after brushes with the law), an extravagant lifestyle, and alimony/child support payments can wipe the millions away rather quickly. Plus, many multi-million dollar contracts only add up if the contract is completely fulfilled. If Luger got canned before that, he doesn't get the rest of the money.

One of Luger's biggest professional blunders occured in 1994. He was slated to win the WWF Championship at Wrestlemania X. But, shortly before the big event, Luger (while drunk) spilled the beans to reporters that he was winning the title. When the WWF brass heard about it, they quickly changed the plans and had Bret Hart (who, along with Luger, was the "co-winner" of the Royal Rumble, the match that determines who gets a title shot at WrestleMania; Luger and Hart were the last two men and they eliminated each other at the same time) win the championship, despite losing to his brother, Owen, earlier at WrestleMania.

It ain't that hard to squander millions of dollars in America.

[BayGBM]

It ain't that hard to squander millions of dollars in America.

So true.  Ah well, there is always gay for pay. 

[Parker]

the only man to bodyslam 500 lb yokozuna

he always claimed 4% bodyfat too

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Ahmad did as well..On a US Carrier (I believe)

[MCWAY]

jim sued and won the rights to the name and character. vince finally lost one.

comparing jims situation to naming yourself  "big mac or quarter pounder"?

dude, go get therapy, you need it bad.

Dude, try reading and comprehending, before you make comments about others needing therapy. The context of my statement was a reply to claims of Warrior wanting to be out of the business, that business being pro wrestling.

If one wants to be out of pro wrestling altogether, you simply resign and stay away from wrestling. You don't open a wrestling school; you don't get fired for violating company policy, specifically not showing up at arenas where you've been advertised. You don't sue to use your wrestling character name (after you've legally changed your name to that character) to make a living. And, you don't, if getting away from wrestling were your top priority, sign with the rival company of your former employer (WCW).

The only thing that McMahon lost was exclusive rights to the Ultimate Warrior character. He can still use the Ultimate Warrior character, without paying Warrior one thin dime. (How do you think he made The Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior DVD?). Conversely, Warrior can use the character without giving WWE any compensation.

[Kwon]

Good for him!

The Ultimate Warrior-character was great.

[Wombat]

He's 49 now.  Game over. 

And to think Kernal Sanders of KFC didn't start franchising KFC until he was in his late 60's

[Kwon]

And to think Kernal Sanders of KFC didn't start franchising KFC until he was in his late 60's

Colonel.