Why such low weights when training with Milos???

[Bluto]

I bet you anything Bluto has chicken legs LOL..... Just reading the guy's posts you kinda get an idea of how his physique looks. Sadly some people just don't know how to shut up and learn from people more advanced than they are.

Actually by not shutting up and keep on discussing and asking questions is the way to learn, where as you just buy anything just because a pro says it. You're the dumb one.

As for legs, that's one of my stronger body parts, I currently train them two times a week (not counting MMA training and hill sprints)

[Bluto]

Pull it off...send him his plane ticket.

I'll post 1000+ pictures of Bluto trying to keep up w/ Hide, Milos, Rick and me. It'll be a hoot!

Since the weight being used isn't the same for everyone, but individual, it all comes down to cardio - not strength. That means any sprinter, marathon runner etc won't have a problem keeping up - and beating you.

Their cardio is superior.

[Bluto]

I trained with the Mentzers and now I've trained with Milos (if only 1 workout) and there are few, if any commonalities in thier routines. Milos is high volume-high intensity and Mikes was low-volume high intensity.

Learning HIT directly from training with Mike and ray was WAY more valuable than reading about in a magazine or a book. For everyone that opportunity is gone since Mike and Ray are gone.

You now have an opportunity to learn directly from Milos a completely different concept. He’s offering it openly and I’ve heard every excuse in the book… well I’d have to fly, well I don’t think it will work, well my shoes are to tight, well the sun is in my eyes… jeez I could get drunk on all the whining.

Get on a plane and fly out and train with the man, go home and use his methods for two months. If it doesn’t work for you… so what? You gave it a shot and you can go back to your old training methods. If it does work, you save yourself years of frustration.

I think it's great that Milos give people the chance to train with him, anyone in his area would be a fool not to accept. However - I think it's silly when it's used as some macho bullshit to show how big, strong and tough he is - that he will triple the weight for each excercise etc.

That's just a variation of the good 'ol "oh yeah come to the cage and I'll fight you big mouth!"

Also it looks like Milos is getting a cult following here, anyone questioning anything he says and they snap. I hope Milos isn't religious or garraeth might move into some compound before we know it. 

[Charlys69]

I believe that a "nattie" who is on diet and train that way may shrink his muscles in record time.

But to bring the (steroid)hormomes to the receptors it will work excellent. I doubt that "his pros" get there general musclemass by this way of training. I believe they all build there muscles the same way (progressive overload over a long decade...+ food, nutrition, genetics, med.). To get in shape & and show the striations this "pure feel" training will work. But i don`t believe that it will work for years in a row....

[garraeth]

5 excuses in 5 posts from Bluto...poor porky kid would burn in the Southern California sun 

[LATS]

  yeah.. i woukld like milos to explain the physiology behind it.. not the point that it is painful and will put ya on your knees.. pain does not equate hypertrophy. that is why i am interested in hearing the reason why it works.. not that it is the most "painful" workout you will do.. not saying that it wont work.. just want more information..

[UK Gold]

5 excuses in 5 posts from Bluto...poor porky kid would burn in the Southern California sun 

Answer me this though, 'garraeth', do you really think this kind of traing works for natruals? How many natruals train this way with Milos? If so what were the results?

[garraeth]

Answer me this though, 'garraeth', do you really think this kind of traing works for natruals? How many natruals train this way with Milos? If so what were the results?

It worked for me.



Aside: everyone is kinda everywhere. There's nothing Milos can do right. If he's training pros, he's juicing them with mad amounts like GH15 suggests. If he's training naturals, he's burning them out.

Think about it for one second...why does he keep getting repeat clients and tons of new referrals (naturals and pros -- you just don't hear about the naturals, but I SEE them)? Cuz he's killing pros and burning naturals out? Obviously not.

The lack of brainpower on this board is really surprising sometimes (not you UK Gold, I've read your posts and they are intelligent). And/or the desire to troll rather than learn shows some scary insite into who you really are...

...I gotta get back to work. I'll be training with the #1 bodybuilding trainer in the world in about 3 hours, so have to get some programming done...

[Bluto]

it worked for you? what you accomplished so far besides losing weight?

have you got stronger in the big 3 lifts? if so how much stronger in what time period?

are your arms bigger, or cant you tell because you used synthol?

are you even a natural or "clean" at the moment?

[The Coach]

Since the weight being used isn't the same for everyone, but individual, it all comes down to cardio - not strength. That means any sprinter, marathon runner etc won't have a problem keeping up - and beating you.

Their cardio is superior.

Not real bright are you?? Aside from being wrong about "it all comes down to cardio"........you can't compare a sprinter to a marathon runner. After you learn energy systems 101, then maybe you can come back speak with a little intelligence.

[Luke Wood]

Luke what else did Milos show you in his office besides his massive legs? Did you get a chance to try some of Milos shake? I heard it's really popular. Good stuff


SGT. D

Absolutely 100% Sarge!! I did try the new KNS supplements that Milos himself formulated!!! The most ADVANCED AMINO ACID supplements ever put together!!!  I have been using the AMINO PRELOAD 45 mins before every workout and the AMINO XXPLOAD during training.

Im sure this was the answer you were look for right Sarge??

[Mars]

How much procent is it better than cell tech?

[Bluto]

Not real bright are you?? Aside from being wrong about "it all comes down to cardio"........you can't compare a sprinter to a marathon runner. After you learn energy systems 101, then maybe you can come back speak with a little intelligence.

im not comparing them, im saying theyre generally have good condition.

are you saying it doesnt matter how good your cardio is for this type of training? even milos admit it is.

so what exactly is it that i say that you disagree with? let me hear it!

[Bluto]

How much procent is it better than cell tech?

29382%!

[The Coach]

im not comparing them, im saying theyre generally have good condition.

are you saying it doesnt matter how good your cardio is for this type of training? even milos admit it is.

so what exactly is it that i say that you disagree with? let me hear it!

No, that's not what I'm saying, but you seem to be talking along the lines that you have to have the conditioning of a sprinter or marathon runner to do this program. Remember, he's going giant sets (there really not giant sets, it's circuit training) with the SAME bodypart not the entire body.

I run my clients and athletes throught power circuits ALL THE TIME especially in season athletes, the difference is I run my circuits with the entire body. When I get back, I'll give an example.

[Bluto]

No, that's not what I'm saying, but you seem to be talking along the lines that you have to have the conditioning of a sprinter or marathon runner to do this program. Remember, he's going giant sets (there really not giant sets, it's circuit training) with the SAME bodypart not the entire body.

I run my clients and athletes throught power circuits ALL THE TIME especially in season athletes, the difference is I run my circuits with the entire body. When I get back, I'll give an example.

no thats not what im saying.

what im reacting to is the macho bullshit that you need to be a big ape to hang with this kinda training when in reality the better shape you are condition wise the easier it is since you'll be outta breath before your muscle is fried.

the weight youre lifting is individual. so there's no strength challenge there - you're not going for any new PR's. so the intensity added to the concept is the little rest. and of course youll get tired faster if there's little or no rest, thats why we DO REST between sets so we can lift more. duh!

[Mars]

29382%!

No way?

[garraeth]

it worked for you? what you accomplished so far besides losing weight?

have you got stronger in the big 3 lifts? if so how much stronger in what time period?

are your arms bigger, or cant you tell because you used synthol?

are you even a natural or "clean" at the moment?

You're nosy.

[Bluto]

You're nosy.

thats allright i dont really care but if you claim it worked wonders you should go into detail about it

[garraeth]

thats allright i dont really care but if you claim it worked wonders you should go into detail about it

Why?

[Bluto]

Why?

to check if your bullshiting or not

from what i understand you mainly talk about losing weight

so if thats the main thing that happend to you then you could've just hit the stairclimber and it would result the same

[chris2489]

No one should be getting mad at Bluto because he's asking questions. Like he said that's how you learn, or in some cases prove yourself right.

Anyway, most intelligent BB'ers realize that the key to getting bigger is by progressively getting stronger with good form, hitting a muscle frequently as possible while stimulating maximum growth, adequate rest and nutrition.

Now with Milos training I don't see how you can hit a muscle more than once a week, in some cases even longer. That is low frequency, so it goes against one key point of getting bigger.

By doing all that volume and giant setting, super slow, squeezing, etc. will slow down strength progression. Another key point not followed.

I do see some benefit to Milos training though. It will get you in great cardiovascular shape and boost your metabolism which is good for losing weight.

[TheDoctor]

Bluto i could not hang with Milos either now natural or chemically enhanced 3 or so years ago i like my methodical training,Arnolds Encylopedia of Bodybuilding is my Bible training 6 days a week, with nice long rest periods in between sets.
Every one has there style, im sure if i did more cardio took no rest between sets and pratically burned myself out i could hang with some of Milos natural students but not the Man himself.
Milos style remindes me of what Sergio Oliva went through with Arthur Jones i am suprised nobody has brought this up.Sergio looked the best he ever did in the 72 MrO with some white guy beating him ive forgot his name.

[garraeth]

to check if your bullshiting or not

from what i understand you mainly talk about losing weight

so if thats the main thing that happend to you then you could've just hit the stairclimber and it would result the same

Huh?

[dearth]

can someone tell me how performing a marathon workout with ridiculously light weights is supposed to be anabolic?
This Milos workout sounds like a glorified cardio session.