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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2007, 04:11:14 PM »
He's not as hardcore as this guy was in the gym.


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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2007, 04:53:02 PM »
Maybe because Fedor outweighs him by 80 pounds?  ::)

Penn has more God given talent than Fedor.

IS DOESN`T MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS!

and no he has not.

The best fighter in the world can take on ANYBODY IN ANY weightclass, and that my man is FEDOR
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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2007, 04:56:02 PM »
IS DOESN`T MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS!

and no he has not.

The best fighter in the world can take on ANYBODY IN ANY weightclass, and that my man is FEDOR
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You're a moron. Let me guess, you just started watching Pride and think you know what you're talking about? At that level of skill, 80 or so pounds is going to make a huge difference.   ::)

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2007, 04:59:40 PM »
no need to bring fedor into the argument

this god given talent, penn, lost 3 of his last 5 fights.

so much for his skills.  ::)
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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2007, 05:02:18 PM »
no need to bring fedor into the argument

this god given talent, penn, lost 3 of his last 5 fights.

so much for his skills.  ::)

I never said he's the best. He's got some of the worst dedication in the world, which is usually the case with people with amazing natural ability.

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2007, 05:02:45 PM »
no need to bring fedor into the argument

this god given talent, penn, lost 3 of his last 5 fights.

so much for his skills.  ::)

like a lot of people who are born with exceptional talents, BJ gets lazy and doesn't prep properly.  In spite of that, he still managed to give St. Pierre & Hughes a run for their money.  Imagine a BJ Penn with Sherks' work ethic :o
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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2007, 05:04:50 PM »
You're a moron. Let me guess, you just started watching Pride and think you know what you're talking about? At that level of skill, 80 or so pounds is going to make a huge difference.   ::)

no shit :O .

Compare Wins/loss

oh thatīs right, Fedor havent lost!
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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2007, 05:09:11 PM »
like a lot of people who are born with exceptional talents, BJ gets lazy and doesn't prep properly.  In spite of that, he still managed to give St. Pierre & Hughes a run for their money.  Imagine a BJ Penn with Sherks' work ethic :o

He'd be the closest to invincible in the cage that one could probably be.

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2007, 05:13:45 PM »
and if shark had his talent he would be invincible etc.
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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2007, 07:20:28 PM »
I think you guys are smokin' some of that sticky stuff...sherk is way too strong for penn...the ONLY submission benn would be able to get on sherk is a RNC...he is way too stubby and compact to get caught in an armbar, kimura etc.

Plus, I don't think penn wants it as bad..if you see how out of shape he got before the pulver fight you'll see what I mean...he's getting complacent and soft....the pulver rivalry woke him up out of that but I wonder if it was only temporary...

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2007, 07:40:19 PM »
Sean Sherk will never lose a fight at 155.  The UFC will make him go back up to welterweight.  He is invincible at 155, its a joke to even try and put someone in the ring with him at that weight.

He's fighting BJ in Nov.  so he will lose that one

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2007, 07:41:07 PM »

Hello :o  Penn said he is never fighting at 155 again! >:(

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2007, 07:43:26 PM »
I think you guys are smokin' some of that sticky stuff...sherk is way too strong for penn...the ONLY submission benn would be able to get on sherk is a RNC...he is way too stubby and compact to get caught in an armbar, kimura etc.

Plus, I don't think penn wants it as bad..if you see how out of shape he got before the pulver fight you'll see what I mean...he's getting complacent and soft....the pulver rivalry woke him up out of that but I wonder if it was only temporary...

Wow a blind man making claims.  Good job.  BJ was in the best shape ever.  And strength won't do much in the ring with BJ.  Sherk won't last past the 2nd round in November with BJ

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2007, 07:44:03 PM »
He's fighting BJ in Nov.  so he will lose that one

You Hawaiians are as bad as Texans when it comes to hyping your own.

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2007, 07:51:22 PM »
You Hawaiians are as bad as Texans when it comes to hyping your own.

Yea I guess you are right.  The only thing is I'm not Hawaiian.  I just know what BJ does and how he trains.  Sherk may be stronger than BJ but is not better than him in any ground or stand up (maybe close in standup)

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2007, 09:58:37 PM »
BJ will lose on points. BJ's BJJ is not that much better than Francas...better but not worlds appart, and Franca had nothing  on Sherk on the ground other than the guilliotine attempt.

And please stop making excuses for BJ Penn...he could not be the "best ever" if he chose to train. He is a professional fighter and has been so for a decade. He is not the complete package and thats why he keeps losing fights

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2007, 11:45:51 PM »
Congrats on proving that you know NOTHING about MMA. Penn's BJJ is worlds apart from Hermes. Nothing against him, but Hermes is like a Junior USA winner and Penn is like a Mr. Olympia when it comes to jits. That's how far apart they are.

Penn - Sherk will be a war and BJ has to get to him in the first 2-3 rounds or Sherk's cardio will take over. But remember one thing. BJ has routinely submitted guys who outweigh him by 40-50 pounds and will be much better prepared to handle Sherk's strength.

BJ will lose on points. BJ's BJJ is not that much better than Francas...better but not worlds appart, and Franca had nothing  on Sherk on the ground other than the guilliotine attempt.

And please stop making excuses for BJ Penn...he could not be the "best ever" if he chose to train. He is a professional fighter and has been so for a decade. He is not the complete package and thats why he keeps losing fights

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2007, 01:53:22 AM »
penn will lose. just the way he lost 3 outta his last 5 fights.
i bet you guys thought he would've won them too - turned out he didn't.

that will make his record even worse - 4 losses in 6 fights. go penn!  ::)
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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2007, 02:07:35 AM »
hahaha lmao at all the queers in this thread  ::)

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2007, 03:31:28 AM »
BJ will lose on points. BJ's BJJ is not that much better than Francas...better but not worlds appart, and Franca had nothing  on Sherk on the ground other than the guilliotine attempt.

And please stop making excuses for BJ Penn...he could not be the "best ever" if he chose to train. He is a professional fighter and has been so for a decade. He is not the complete package and thats why he keeps losing fights

Are you high?  BJ Penn is a MUNDIAL World champion.  He WAS NEVER SCORED UPON when he won the Mundials.  He has never had his guard passed in competition, whether it be BJJ, sub grappling, or MMA.  His jits is MUCH better than Hermes.  The only one comparable to his jits (prolly better because he focuses on it) is Marcelo Garcia.  He is the complete package, his motivation is what has killed him. 


Bluto, you claim to be such an MMA expert, want to be a moderator, did you did into the stats and actually watch any of those fights and loses.  BJ is 11-4-1.  His losses are to Matt Hughes (whom he was beating handily), GSP, Lyoto Machida (at 205 and this dude killed Ace Franklin, and I think has a chance to upset Shogun), Pulver (which he avenged). 

Lets see who he beat.  Matt Hughes (who beat Sherk by UD), he destroyed him on his feet, was killing him in the GNP and RNCed him for the win.  Matt Serra (UFC welterweight Champ), Caol Uno (destroyed in the first fight), Din Thomas (KTFO right after Din KOed Jens), Takanori Gomi (he punked him on his feet, and when he wanted to took him down and RNCed him) who at the time was considered the best P4P fighter, Bang Ludwig (made him look silly) right after Bang KOed Jens, Rodrigo Gracie (put on a clinic on an ADCC winner and successful Bushido fighter), he passed Rodrigos guard at will, got dominant position, Renzo Gracie, made Renzo's jits look normal, and Jens the former 155 champ. 

Like him or not, BJ's talent is evident.  When he wants to (Hughes1, Gomi, Ludwig, Thomas, Uno1) he is the best P4P fighter in the world.  When his training isn't the greatest, (Pulver1, Uno2, Serra, Machida, GSP) he is a talented fighter who can still finish the fight.  I know there is a lot of BJ hate here, but call a spade a spade.  Randy, and Matt both say his wrestling is out of this world.  When you see him toy with Charuto, you know his jits is sick.  Most people don't think his striking is that great, but he has HEAVY hands, and a helluva chin.  His wrestling is severely underated. 

IF BJ is motivated, he rolls over Sherk like he did Hughes.  If he isn't, he is in for a long night, and another UD loss. 

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2007, 04:03:00 AM »
is it more intense than milos training  ???
Thats what i was thinking im sure Sherk would keep up with one of Milos natural advanced student training easy.Could Milos follow Sherks training routines.Who knows
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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2007, 04:26:39 AM »
all im saying is that bj will lose against sherk.
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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2007, 05:30:38 AM »
all im saying is that bj will lose against sherk.

hahaha, you just got absolutely rocked by Americanbulldog, which isn't surprising. It's a good thing Chuteboxe has banned you from the MMA board, it's a lot better without your useless bullshit in there.  :D

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2007, 05:57:42 AM »
BJ is not better before proven better. All the nonsense about "motivation" is not a proof of BJ's superiotity, but proof of unlimited nuthuggery by whorshippers here (the same people who also whorshipped the likes of Bruce Lee and Rickson Gracie).

BJ is not the champ in any organisation. He lost against GSP and he was TKO'ed against Hughes.....end of story. Come back with the "best P4P" whorship when BJ has won the title and defended it a dozen times.

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Re: The Muscle Shark Training
« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2007, 07:14:12 AM »
hahaha, you just got absolutely rocked by Americanbulldog, which isn't surprising. It's a good thing Chuteboxe has banned you from the MMA board, it's a lot better without your useless bullshit in there.  :D

huh? all he did was talk about his fights. i know it, ive seen them. there's nothing to comment on. who wants another 2 pages of you calling bj a prodigy? this isnt new and brings nothing to the table.

as for the mma board - it's shit. ufc 72 there wasnt a single thread discussing it - no predictions, no comments - nothing. the board turned useless. i got there on the day of the fight and was like "what the fuck?!" NOBODY discussing the fight of the evening! turns out nobody there, except me, gave a shit about UFC.
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