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Bluto · « **Reply #50 on:** July 11, 2007, 07:18:02 AM »

Quote from: OneManGang on July 11, 2007, 05:57:42 AM

BJ is not better before proven better. All the nonsense about "motivation" is not a proof of BJ's superiotity, but proof of unlimited nuthuggery by whorshippers here (the same people who also whorshipped the likes of Bruce Lee and Rickson Gracie).

BJ is not the champ in any organisation. He lost against GSP and he was TKO'ed against Hughes.....end of story. Come back with the "best P4P" whorship when BJ has won the title and defended it a dozen times.

exactly. all they keep crying about is how talented he is. bj can do this. bj can do that. well who GIVES A FUCK? guy has lost 3 outta his last 5 fights. that's a fact!

and this "prodigy"

prod·i·gy /ˈprɒdɪdʒi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[prod-i-jee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -gies.
1. a person, esp. a child or young person, having extraordinary talent or ability

will be 30 next year!

americanbulldog · « **Reply #51 on:** July 11, 2007, 02:14:39 PM »

Quote from: OneManGang on July 11, 2007, 05:57:42 AM

BJ is not better before proven better. All the nonsense about "motivation" is not a proof of BJ's superiotity, but proof of unlimited nuthuggery by whorshippers here (the same people who also whorshipped the likes of Bruce Lee and Rickson Gracie).

BJ is not the champ in any organisation. He lost against GSP and he was TKO'ed against Hughes.....end of story. Come back with the "best P4P" whorship when BJ has won the title and defended it a dozen times.

Lets see, BJ won the Mundials (BJJ World Championship), won the UFC Welterweight title, won the K1 title (beating Bang). NEVER HAD HIS GUARD PASSED IN MMA, BJJ OR SUB GRAPPLING (Hows that for proof of superior BJJ) and this was against a couple of world title holders and one ADCC champ. Fought a 205 lber who is still undefeated and lost a close decision (he had Machida rocked at one point). At this point he is 1-1 against Hughes, lost to GSP but beat Serra (current champ). You can call objective reasoning as blind nuthuggery, but I call what you see as analysis as hate. BTW, have you ever had the chance to roll with BJ? Definitely an eye opener, and you will see, feel first hand why he is known as the prodigy.

Bluto · « **Reply #52 on:** July 11, 2007, 02:18:31 PM »

bj lost 3 outta his 5 last fights and is fit as a doughnut.

Bluto · « **Reply #53 on:** July 11, 2007, 02:22:34 PM »

bj will lose against sherk!

but at least he's a prodigy right ?

americanbulldog · « **Reply #54 on:** July 11, 2007, 02:54:27 PM »

^^^We'll see "doughboy."

Bluto · « **Reply #55 on:** July 11, 2007, 03:33:55 PM »

bj is the doughboy i cant wait to see how fit he will look compared to sherk haha i bet he will prepare for the fight at this place

Voice of Doom · « **Reply #56 on:** July 11, 2007, 03:43:28 PM »

Ya...but the question remains...does anybody LIKE watching Sherk fight??? He makes Mark Kerr's and Ricardo Arona's technique look exciting. He's the king of lay and pray. He's one dimensional and can't finish anyone...he's dominating his division because that division is weak, end of story.

And for the record I love Fedor, but he doesn't have enough competition. He's like Tyson or Lewis never having that arch rival. But he's young and someone might emerge. I would like to see him fight Cro-Cop again if Mirko can get his head back together.

The best pound for pound fighter is Dan Henderson. He's got the work ethic, wrestling, and knockout power. He can move back and forth in weight and hold his own. If you haven't seen his fight with Big Nog...check it out. Regardless of the outcome he's the real deal. And he's in a division with some depth on both sides of the Pacific.

Bluto · « **Reply #57 on:** July 11, 2007, 03:48:18 PM »

i kinda like watching a specimen like sherk but he does lack one more weapon in his toolbox as far as excitiment goes, its too bad he's not a natural ko puncher or something like that but i love his athleticism

henderson is great im considering going to england to watch him fight but the ringside tickets are sold out

americanbulldog · « **Reply #58 on:** July 11, 2007, 04:28:14 PM »

Quote from: Voice of Doom on July 11, 2007, 03:43:28 PM

Ya...but the question remains...does anybody LIKE watching Sherk fight??? He makes Mark Kerr's and Ricardo Arona's technique look exciting. He's the king of lay and pray. He's one dimensional and can't finish anyone...he's dominating his division because that division is weak, end of story.

And for the record I love Fedor, but he doesn't have enough competition. He's like Tyson or Lewis never having that arch rival. But he's young and someone might emerge. I would like to see him fight Cro-Cop again if Mirko can get his head back together.

The best pound for pound fighter is Dan Henderson. He's got the work ethic, wrestling, and knockout power. He can move back and forth in weight and hold his own. If you haven't seen his fight with Big Nog...check it out. Regardless of the outcome he's the real deal. And he's in a division with some depth on both sides of the Pacific.

Henderson is deceptively strong. I am a full two inches taller, and outweighed him by 15 lbs, and he was shucking me like a ragdoll this past Sunday. If any of you have a chance to attend a Dan Henderson seminar, I HIGHLY reccomend it. His ground and pound method is fantastic, trapping one hand, hitting to open the guard, the hipping in to get an even more dominant position.

Fury · « **Reply #59 on:** July 11, 2007, 04:40:38 PM »

I actually enjoy watching Arona fight. If anyone knows anything about BJJ then watching his matches is like a free clinic. The guy's ground game is flawless. He can go crazy when he wants to. Not that I'd expect any of you TUF clowns to have seen Arona/Sakuraba, probably the most brutal beating in MMA history.

onlyme · « **Reply #60 on:** July 11, 2007, 07:07:40 PM »

Quote from: OneManGang on July 11, 2007, 05:57:42 AM

BJ is not better before proven better. All the nonsense about "motivation" is not a proof of BJ's superiotity, but proof of unlimited nuthuggery by whorshippers here (the same people who also whorshipped the likes of Bruce Lee and Rickson Gracie).

BJ is not the champ in any organisation. He lost against GSP and he was TKO'ed against Hughes.....end of story. Come back with the "best P4P" whorship when BJ has won the title and defended it a dozen times.

He beat the shit out of both guys. Separated rib in Hughes fight at the end of the round and thats the only reason Hughes won and he knows it. BJ was the World Champ and the only american to win the World Chamionships in BJJ in Brazil. Sorry you lost your fight in this one. And Sherk will end up the same way as Pulver. Then BJ will go up in weight. You must have forgot about BJ fighting in every weigth class up to heavyweight and doing quite well. Nice try though

onlyme · « **Reply #61 on:** July 11, 2007, 07:11:26 PM »

Quote from: Bluto on July 11, 2007, 02:22:34 PM

bj will lose against sherk!

but at least he's a prodigy right ?

hahaha lets put a mizly $100 on it.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #62 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:02:48 AM »

For all the BJ haters.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2igtx_bj-penn

Bluto · « **Reply #63 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:43:20 AM »

does sherk have the best chin in all mma? BOOM he ate knee after knee and kept on fighting!

what a warrior!

OneManGang · « **Reply #64 on:** July 12, 2007, 05:10:51 AM »

LOL! The american poodle claims BJs guard has never been passed. Well when Hughes owned him I can't recall BJs legs embracing Hughes body. Hughes had him pinned and the "God" could not escape

BJ is very good, but he has not done enough to be called the best P4P. Maybe he will one day, but he certainly has not showed enough yet.....*consistensy*..cough cough

Bluto · « **Reply #65 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:48:04 PM »

MindSpin · « **Reply #66 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:51:30 PM »

Quote from: Bluto on July 12, 2007, 01:48:04 PM

What's your point

Bluto · « **Reply #67 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:59:43 PM »

the point is that it's a chipmunk fighting a shark

MindSpin · « **Reply #68 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:13:06 PM »

Quote from: Bluto on July 12, 2007, 01:59:43 PM

the point is that it's a chipmunk fighting a shark

oh...

onlyme · « **Reply #69 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:31:03 PM »

Quote from: Bluto on July 12, 2007, 01:48:04 PM

Bluto, you have to be kidding right. BJ blows him away in every aspect of MMA except his body. But that means nothing. I think we understand your love for the male body but in MMA means nothing.

Grundle · « **Reply #70 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:33:44 PM »

BJ has zero discipline and the worst conditioning in MMA. In a 5 round championship fight, all sherk has to do is get it to the 3rd or 4th and BJ will stall like an '82 Pinto.

LurkyLurker · « **Reply #71 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:43:05 PM »

Quote from: Bluto on July 12, 2007, 01:59:43 PM

the point is that it's a chipmunk fighting a shark

That's a squirrel.

These are chipmunks:

americanbulldog · « **Reply #72 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:16:11 PM »

Quote from: Grundle on July 12, 2007, 02:33:44 PM

BJ has zero discipline and the worst conditioning in MMA. In a 5 round championship fight, all sherk has to do is get it to the 3rd or 4th and BJ will stall like an '82 Pinto.

Not that I am a proponent of MMAth, but BJ RNCed Hughes who dominated Sherk at 170. BJ was killing GSP until he gassed, who TKOed Sherk. BJ has beaten Matt Serra (current UFC welterweight champ), schooled Rodrigo Gracie (ADCC champ) and Renzo on the ground. You posted about stopping the bodybuilding theme and start more MMA oriented subject matter. Last time I checked MMA has nothing to do with aesthetics. (Fedor is the best heavyweight, and he looks like Baby Huey)

onlyme · « **Reply #73 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:23:16 PM »

Quote from: OneManGang on July 12, 2007, 05:10:51 AM

LOL! The american poodle claims BJs guard has never been passed. Well when Hughes owned him I can't recall BJs legs embracing Hughes body. Hughes had him pinned and the "God" could not escape

BJ is very good, but he has not done enough to be called the best P4P. Maybe he will one day, but he certainly has not showed enough yet.....*consistensy*..cough cough

hahaha Hughes only passed him cause he had 2 separated ribs. Dude do some research before making a fool out of yourself again.

onlyme · « **Reply #74 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:27:25 PM »

Quote from: Grundle on July 12, 2007, 02:33:44 PM

BJ has zero discipline and the worst conditioning in MMA. In a 5 round championship fight, all sherk has to do is get it to the 3rd or 4th and BJ will stall like an '82 Pinto.

A couple things though. He will never be able to last more than a couple rounds with BJ and BJ drives a Hummer and Sherk drives the pinto. And don't under estimate BJ's conditioning. I see him everyday training in the morning, late afternoon and sometime night too. He runs between 5 and 8 miles a day and is down on the mat and ring for hours. And he will be in even better shape for Sherk. Unless you see him train and see what he does then really you have no basis to comment negatively on his conditioning now. He barely broke a sweat against Pulver and had him from the first punch. And was in control enough to let the arm bar go and triangle. Sherk is going to be in for a very bad night.