The Trainer/Client relationship........ad nauseum.

[DIVISION]

Kenneth asked whether my conversation with said Mormon girl crossed the boundaries of the trainer/client relationship.

I have to say in all honesty, it didn't.

After the session is over, I talk to clients all the time, providing I have time.

You'd be surprised at what type of things they tell me.

Marriages, sex lives, career...

I almost feel like a therapist in some ways.

A few have tried to push for sexual relations on the side, but I've never given in to temptation.

Most just want the extra attention from a man outside of their husband/boyfriend.

Only a trainer can determine what type of repoire they will have with a client, it's not really for anyone else to judge.


DIV

[drkaje]

I'd say keeping things professional is important. A lot of the people use trainers as paid friends at the gym and it also makes people look more serious/interesting than they actually are.

[CQ]

Can't speak for a larger place, but here in the tiny community I live in, a 'relationship' with a client would be a *very* unwise move. It would look very unprofessional. Quite frankly, I would be inclined to fire my trainers if they were sleeping the client(s) and I knew about it. Of course I do live within a conservative society so it may be different elsewhere.

[DIVISION]

Can't speak for a larger place, but here in the tiny community I live in, a 'relationship' with a client would be a *very* unwise move. It would look very unprofessional. Quite frankly, I would be inclined to fire my trainers if they were sleeping the client(s) and I knew about it. Of course I do live within a conservative society so it may be different elsewhere.

I live in Phoenix....in the suburbs..........all kinds of people.

I have a good relationship with both district managers who oversee all of Phoenix so I'm not worried about backlash politics.

A good trainer will always have work......regardless of which gym.

As I said, the trainer/client relationship is a personal one.....

Very much the same as a doctor/patient.



DIV

[drkaje]

I live in Phoenix....in the suburbs..........all kinds of people.

I have a good relationship with both district managers who oversee all of Phoenix so I'm not worried about backlash politics.

A good trainer will always have work......regardless of which gym.

As I said, the trainer/client relationship is a personal one.....

Very much the same as a doctor/patient.



DIV

The personal component is (at best) minimal.

[DIVISION]

The personal component is (at best) minimal.

That's what you think, Jake......   
 



DIV

[drkaje]

That's what you think, Jake......   
 



DIV

To me it's the cases that are interesting. The other stuff usually doesn't factor in to any extent.

[DIVISION]

To me it's the cases that are interesting. The other stuff usually doesn't factor in to any extent.

For me it's the mental aspect of the training that interests me.

Finding a person's motivation and exploiting that to get the results that I want to see.

For some people, it's not about exercise at all, but rather someone to talk to.....

Some people are lonely.

The physical issues I have to work around are a challenge at times and that is what makes it a job....

The psychology of training is what I enjoy.



DIV

[Deedee]

Kenneth asked whether my conversation with said Mormon girl crossed the boundaries of the trainer/client relationship.

I have to say in all honesty, it didn't.

After the session is over, I talk to clients all the time, providing I have time.

You'd be surprised at what type of things they tell me.

Marriages, sex lives, career...

I almost feel like a therapist in some ways.

A few have tried to push for sexual relations on the side, but I've never given in to temptation.

Most just want the extra attention from a man outside of their husband/boyfriend.

Only a trainer can determine what type of repoire they will have with a client, it's not really for anyone else to judge.


DIV

   Did you mean rapport?  Or the French word for pear?

[24KT]

Deedee, did you say your ass was shaped like a pear?

Please show us.   

DIV

Great example of why more women don't post on these boards! 

[drkaje]

Great example of why more women don't post on these boards! 

There not being a new information wouldn't have anything to due with it being a little slow. Aside from men, three women, an alias and the moderators.. who has posted here in months? Gardasil thread aside, that's an important public service.

What you really have to figure out is why Div has you so figured out. Otherwise a word or two wouldn't send you to such a defensive place on an emotional level. Occasionally Div makes an 'analysis'. In general, it's dismissed and quickly forgotten. Then you have the occasions where people get (and stay) upset to such an extent that it's obvious he was dead on. I just find it funny, (in that ironic, twisted way that makes me laugh a bit when bored or my GF is too busy to be annoyed) that the two people who took the greatest umbrage to his observations always assert he is the main reason this board has so few posts.

Personally, I kind of like the 'pear' shape. Rachael  Ray, for example is cute as heck.

As far as psych goes... behavior/thought process modification is my area of intrest. I'm interested in to what extent people can become keenly aware of when their thought process goes awry and how well they can make alterations once aware of the mis-thought.

[24KT]

Jake, I'm not defensive on any emotional level.
I just find the guy boring and annoying as heck.
His schtick is staler than month old bread   

[drkaje]

Jake, I'm not defensive on any emotional level.
I just find the guy boring and annoying as heck.
His schtick is staler than month old bread   

We're still not at the problem's root, LOL!

If your post is true.... why not just ignore Div's posts? Your behavior isn't congruent with what the post's explanation.

First of all... I'm assuming you're clever enough to scroll past Div's posts so there must be some reason the same statement or three evokes such a strong visceral response. Is it your sense of justice? Is one man's opinion so vile and reeking of testosterone that innocent by-readers need warning? Or is it your that your ego can't handle not being taken seriously by someone you feel more than a little superior to?

I'm more curious as to the actual underlying thought process than entertained. Most people never put any thought whatsoever into what they think. There's obviously a reason, I just wonder if you can clearly articulate it.

I see that you, and many others, actually don't 'get' the subtext of his posts. That being said.. tons of people post a lot without being understood. Why is it that a person can use a few key words and it's a big deal? And before you ask... no, I'm not going to break his post down anylonger. The one time on the moved post was just to prove a simple point.

[24KT]

It's simply an attempt to enlighten the poor misguided soul, so hopefully the place doesn't turn into the swill we see on so many other boards.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=163009.msg2294260#msg2294260

[drkaje]

It's simply an attempt to enlighten the poor misguided soul, so hopefully the place doesn't turn into the swill we see on so many other boards.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=163009.msg2294260#msg2294260

Admitting you don't know would have been easier.

[~flower~]

  Judi has goldfish!!     

[Original Sin]

I am with Jag 100% on this one.

I am of the belief that if we had less Men posting on here with comments just to get people upset we might actually attract a few more females.  But (some) boys will be boys and if they can't troll in our sandbox they complain about censorship.

Since this board was set up for the WOMEN we shouldn't have to ignore the idiots on here who just post to get certain people riled up, they should go troll elsewhere.

[CQ]

I am with Jag 100% on this one.

I am of the belief that if we had less Men posting on here with comments just to get people upset we might actually attract a few more females.  But (some) boys will be boys and if they can't troll in our sandbox they complain about censorship.

Since this board was set up for the WOMEN we shouldn't have to ignore the idiots on here who just post to get certain people riled up, they should go troll elsewhere.

Funny thing is I think the ratio of men posting here is more than women anyway

[drkaje]

Funny thing is I think the ratio of men posting here is more than women anyway

We want to know what women 'think'.

[Original Sin]

Let me get this straight... you are powerless to ignore certain posters so it would be better if they were banned.

I shouldn't have to ignore those threads or comments, as this is not what the board was intended for.

This is a Girls board set up by Ron to try and encourage more women to post on Getbig. 
Now it's really nothing more then a place for (some) men to tell women how to act, feel, behave or make them feel worthless.

There were a lot more women posting in the begining then there are now.  The board is "broken" in it current state as obviously it isn't working out as was intended.  In my opinion the place needs a good cleaning.

Be thankful I am not a Mod here 

[~flower~]

We want to know what women 'think'.

I "think" that is fine, but I do not think it is necessary to try and get a female perspective with a post loaded with anal sex comments for example. 

[Original Sin]

Funny thing is I think the ratio of men posting here is more than women anyway

Totally correct, it is probably 5 to 1 at best.

To encourage more women (which I almost think is a lost cause now) the "trolling" has got to stop.
Getbig is not a women's place.  I was one of the ladies in the begining that wanted the men here, I was wrong.  Flowers idea of having this board hidden was the correct route.  We could discuss whatever and not be worried about it being dragged to other boards or having to hear about how evil and stupid women are.

[drkaje]

I shouldn't have to ignore those threads or comments, as this is not what the board was intended for.

This is a Girls board set up by Ron to try and encourage more women to post on Getbig. 
Now it's really nothing more then a place for (some) men to tell women how to act, feel, behave or make them feel worthless.

There were a lot more women posting in the begining then there are now.  The board is "broken" in it current state as obviously it isn't working out as was intended.  In my opinion the place needs a good cleaning.

Be thankful I am not a Mod here 

Interesting... it seems you're saying it's impossible for some people to have a relationship with someone if it's not 100% on their own terms. I wonder what quality of off-line relationships people with this particular quirk have.

Ron could (with a few easy clicks of the mouse) set up an invisible women's forum or one that was restricted to posters who could prove they were women. We all know there isn't enough intrest in non-chippping nail polish to keep such a forum viable. Women already supposedly know what they think so it's perfectly understandable why men would find a women's forum interesting. One of the things you have to realize is that we need each other's perspectives to some extent.

I realize most people are never challenged on anything so it's understandable why Div's can confuse/offend a few. That's not the point at all and this dialogue (from my perspective) only tangentially involves his comments. I'm more curious why some people look for a reason to be unhappy and to what extent the dynamics of on-line relationship difficulties represent off-line scenarios.

I do find your use of the term 'broken' telling.

[Original Sin]

Interesting... it seems you're saying it's impossible for some people to have a relationship with someone if it's not 100% on their own terms. I wonder what quality of off-line relationships people with this particular quirk have.

Ron could (with a few easy clicks of the mouse) set up an invisible women's forum or one that was restricted to posters who could prove they were women. We all know there isn't enough intrest in non-chippping nail polish to keep such a forum viable. Women already supposedly know what they think so it's perfectly understandable why men would find a women's forum interesting. One of the things you have to realize is that we need each other's perspectives to some extent.

I realize most people are never challenged on anything so it's understandable why Div's can confuse/offend a few. That's not the point at all and this dialogue (from my perspective) only tangentially involves his comments. I'm more curious why some people look for a reason to be unhappy and to what extent the dynamics of on-line relationship difficulties represent off-line scenarios.

I do find your use of the term 'broken' telling.

I don't have any problem with having discusions, I actually look forward to them.  Unfortunately there are too few that actually do try to remain intelligent and don't just troll.  You are bright enough to see the obvious differences.

btw my use of the word broken was just that, the literal definition, there is nothing to read into it.

[drkaje]

btw my use of the word broken was just that, the literal definition, there is nothing to read into it.

"Relationship's not about love,Just another Funeral".

I beg to differ.