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Re: The Trainer/Client relationship........ad nauseum.
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2007, 08:09:12 AM »
"Relationship's not about love,Just another Funeral".

I beg to differ. :)

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Re: The Trainer/Client relationship........ad nauseum.
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2007, 08:12:15 AM »
go troll elsewhere. 
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« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2007, 08:37:00 AM »
Whew....interesting thread.
People should be able to post wherever they please. Male or female. We must all remember that this forum is based on people's personal opinions. Just because you don't like what someone has to say or if you don't agree with someone, that doesn't mean that they should be banned or not allowed to post here. That would be biased. As for not enough women posting on here, I think that you can thank the other boards for that. Some of the bashing that has taken place can be very offensive. People calling female bbdr's "men with giant clits", or telling fitness competitors that they have facial hair because of taking too much gas, etc, etc, etc. Thats just simply not right. Division is entitled to his opinion just as I am just as Original Sin is just as Jag is, etc, etc, etc. If there is a true proplem with trolling, PM the individual that you have a problem with and tell them to stop.

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« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2007, 08:50:04 AM »
People are allowed to have their own thoughts and opinions, just because they do does not mean they need to share them.  The women's area has clear rules and negative attacks are not protected.  This is why all the men posting had to read the rules and tell us they would abide by them.  Now I am not saying you can't have a disagreement or conflicting opinion-that is fine, it is the way that individuals go about it that is disrespectful and won't be tolerated.

LOL @ PMing an individual and asking them to stop, I wish we all had the maturity level to handle it this way.  Unfortunately PB we aren't dealing with 100% mature adults and PMing an individual could result in your PM being posted in numerous other boards so they can bash you there. 

You know I love you PB, but you are one of the few who supports and is respectful towards the females on these boards.

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« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2007, 09:17:45 AM »
People are allowed to have their own thoughts and opinions, just because they do does not mean they need to share them.  The women's area has clear rules and negative attacks are not protected.  This is why all the men posting had to read the rules and tell us they would abide by them.  Now I am not saying you can't have a disagreement or conflicting opinion-that is fine, it is the way that individuals go about it that is disrespectful and won't be tolerated.

LOL @ PMing an individual and asking them to stop, I wish we all had the maturity level to handle it this way.  Unfortunately PB we aren't dealing with 100% mature adults and PMing an individual could result in your PM being posted in numerous other boards so they can bash you there. 

You know I love you PB, but you are one of the few who supports and is respectful towards the females on these boards.



There's a thin line between being 'respectful' and encouraging silliness.  :) Someone expressing an unpopular opinion is often taken as a direct personal attack. In those cases it seems people are too touchy. Have I pushed the envelope? Yes, LOL! Was amusing myself at an alias' expense.. some older poster took umbrage and sent a polite PM saying I was being mean. Even though my comments were limited to a specific person I had neglected to consider how actual older women might perceive the comments, LOL!

Since the semester is ending.. all my friends are busy, LOL! I am probably a little more annoying than usual because the first line of people to be challenged (for some strange reason they say annoyed... go figure) when get bored feel generous with my help are occupied. :) Only about a week left and I can give you all a break and annoy people at home. :)

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Re: The Trainer/Client relationship........ad nauseum.
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2007, 10:28:59 AM »
People are allowed to have their own thoughts and opinions, just because they do does not mean they need to share them.  The women's area has clear rules and negative attacks are not protected.  This is why all the men posting had to read the rules and tell us they would abide by them.  Now I am not saying you can't have a disagreement or conflicting opinion-that is fine, it is the way that individuals go about it that is disrespectful and won't be tolerated.

LOL @ PMing an individual and asking them to stop, I wish we all had the maturity level to handle it this way.  Unfortunately PB we aren't dealing with 100% mature adults and PMing an individual could result in your PM being posted in numerous other boards so they can bash you there. 

You know I love you PB, but you are one of the few who supports and is respectful towards the females on these boards.


Thanks, Jen  :)
I try, but in the end its all about simple common courtasy.

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Re: The Trainer/Client relationship........ad nauseum.
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2007, 10:32:44 AM »
Have I pushed the envelope? Yes, LOL! Was amusing myself at an alias' expense.. some older poster took umbrage and sent a polite PM saying I was being mean. Even though my comments were limited to a specific person I had neglected to consider how actual older women might perceive the comments, LOL!

{giggle} Jake, you are such an incorrigible little shit-disturber! I'd love to take a wooden spoon to your tush!

You're referring to that time when you went after Linda, and I sent you a PM aren't you?
Jake, just how old are you, ...and how old do you think I am? really?

If we met in person, ...my appearance would truly shock you. I'm not as sensitive about my age as you think I am.
I just found your comment towards her, particularly mean spirited, and didn't think there was any valid reason for it.

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Since the semester is ending.. all my friends are busy, LOL! I am probably a little more annoying than usual because the first line of people to be challenged (for some strange reason they say annoyed... go figure) when get bored feel generous with my help are occupied. :) Only about a week left and I can give you all a break and annoy people at home. :)

I'll be counting down the days on my calendar.  ;)
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Re: The Trainer/Client relationship........ad nauseum.
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2007, 02:15:40 PM »
{giggle} Jake, you are such an incorrigible little shit-disturber! I'd love to take a wooden spoon to your tush!

You're referring to that time when you went after Linda, and I sent you a PM aren't you?
Jake, just how old are you, ...and how old do you think I am? really?

If we met in person, ...my appearance would truly shock you. I'm not as sensitive about my age as you think I am.
I just found your comment towards her, particularly mean spirited, and didn't think there was any valid reason for it.

I'll be counting down the days on my calendar.  ;)

Moi?

I leave here the 23rd, LOL!

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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2007, 05:42:48 PM »
Moi?

I leave here the 23rd, LOL!

The 23rd huh? {sigh} I might miss you... then again, ...I might not.  :P   :-*
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« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2007, 06:17:13 PM »
The 23rd huh? {sigh} I might miss you... then again, ...I might not.  :P   :-*

Who will correct your errant thought process while I'm preoccupied annoying others visiting family and friends?

"Much to learn, have you."

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« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2007, 08:30:49 PM »
Who will correct your errant thought process while I'm preoccupied annoying others visiting family and friends?

"Much to learn, have you."

{LOUD SIGH} 
Somehow, I guess I'll just have to fumble through it like a 9th grader trying to undo his 1st bra strap.
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« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2007, 08:36:50 PM »

{LOUD SIGH} 
Somehow, I guess I'll just have to fumble through it like a 9th grader trying to undo his 1st bra strap.

Don't get too giddy, LOL! There's still a week left.

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Re: The Trainer/Client relationship........ad nauseum.
« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2007, 11:33:39 AM »
To answer DIV...

I know how you are man....but as a PT you should be working on the physical aspects of training & leave your study of psychology of your clients outside of the gym or not at all.

just my opinion

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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2007, 10:35:49 PM »
What you really have to figure out is why Div has you so figured out. Otherwise a word or two wouldn't send you to such a defensive place on an emotional level. Occasionally Div makes an 'analysis'. In general, it's dismissed and quickly forgotten. Then you have the occasions where people get (and stay) upset to such an extent that it's obvious he was dead on. I just find it funny, (in that ironic, twisted way that makes me laugh a bit when bored or my GF is too busy to be annoyed) that the two people who took the greatest umbrage to his observations always assert he is the main reason this board has so few posts.

Personally, I kind of like the 'pear' shape. Rachael  Ray, for example is cute as heck.

As far as psych goes... behavior/thought process modification is my area of intrest. :) I'm interested in to what extent people can become keenly aware of when their thought process goes awry and how well they can make alterations once aware of the mis-thought.

Jake,

You're making the mistake of thinking that most people use rationale when reading/replying to posts.  That was your first mistake.  Secondly, you assumed that most people (females notwithstanding) internalize thought process and behaviour modification through analysis. 

Most people don't have the skills, nor volition to do so.

Jake, I'm not defensive on any emotional level.
I just find the guy boring and annoying as heck.
His schtick is staler than month old bread   :-\

I'm so boring and annoying that you find time to respond to me.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

That aftertaste in your mouth is the month old bread you just ate.

We're still not at the problem's root, LOL!

If your post is true.... why not just ignore Div's posts? Your behavior isn't congruent with what the post's explanation.

First of all... I'm assuming you're clever enough to scroll past Div's posts so there must be some reason the same statement or three evokes such a strong visceral response. Is it your sense of justice? Is one man's opinion so vile and reeking of testosterone that innocent by-readers need warning? Or is it your that your ego can't handle not being taken seriously by someone you feel more than a little superior to? :)

I'm more curious as to the actual underlying thought process than entertained. Most people never put any thought whatsoever into what they think. There's obviously a reason, I just wonder if you can clearly articulate it.

I see that you, and many others, actually don't 'get' the subtext of his posts. That being said.. tons of people post a lot without being understood. Why is it that a person can use a few key words and it's a big deal? And before you ask... no, I'm not going to break his post down anylonger. The one time on the moved post was just to prove a simple point.

I think we both know what the answer is, Jake.

I don't take Judi seriously and much of her image is simply a facade constructed for ego purposes.

She can't stand someone who doesn't take her as seriously as she takes herself.

Pretentiousness personified.

I "think" that is fine, but I do not think it is necessary to try and get a female perspective with a post loaded with anal sex comments for example. 

Amy,

At least you've spoken to me over the phone, so you know I'm the same guy on here as in real life.

I realize most people are never challenged on anything so it's understandable why Div's can confuse/offend a few. That's not the point at all and this dialogue (from my perspective) only tangentially involves his comments. I'm more curious why some people look for a reason to be unhappy and to what extent the dynamics of on-line relationship difficulties represent off-line scenarios.

I do find your use of the term 'broken' telling.

It's more interesting to argue with the topical essence of my posts, than read them for what they are, which takes some level of intelligence.

Even when I say something crude, there is usually something else behind it.

People want their on-line ego taken seriously, not questioned.......but taken at face value.........which I just don't do unless I know the person offline.

I know how you are man....but as a PT you should be working on the physical aspects of training & leave your study of psychology of your clients outside of the gym or not at all.

Kenneth,

I only reveal my analysis to clients who inquire, but over months of training someone three times per week or more, you build a rapport.

I'm a confidant of sorts for some, perhaps a conquest for others....

Regardless, my focus is on their training and getting them results, but like anything, there is a time to be serious and a time to have fun.

Personal training is both.



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Re: The Trainer/Client relationship........ad nauseum.
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2007, 10:47:18 PM »

  Judi has goldfish!!
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lolololz

perfect timing !

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« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2007, 06:10:21 AM »
Div,

Your post made me wonder: To what extent would you guess internet personalities are taken seriously off-line as 'real' people?

I found the observations about people demanding to be taken seriously and fear of being 'pounded' funny yet thought provoking. In ~flower's~ defense, most women are very sensitive about their body size so it's perfectly understandable why she would be resistant to the idea of having more weight added. :)

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« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2007, 08:39:42 AM »
Amy,

At least you've spoken to me over the phone, so you know I'm the same guy on here as in real life.

True, but if posting on a board where those comments will not be appreciated, I think you could show a little restraint without compromising who you are.

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« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2007, 08:41:35 AM »
I found the observations about people demanding to be taken seriously and fear of being 'pounded' funny yet thought provoking. In ~flower's~ defense, most women are very sensitive about their body size so it's perfectly understandable why she would be resistant to the idea of having more weight added. :)

More weight added?   ???

 For as often as you like to mention me in your posts, I am starting to believe you are my top minion.     

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« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2007, 09:24:27 AM »
More weight added?   ???

 For as often as you like to mention me in your posts, I am starting to believe you are my top minion.     

  drkock, flowerite   ;D
 
   

It was in response to Div's post, LOL! he mentioned your being pounded and I figured you were healthy enough already.

I do find your use of the term flowerite amusing considering who first coined the phrase.

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« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2007, 09:35:15 AM »
I do find your use of the term flowerite amusing considering who first coined the phrase.

 you did, why do you think I used it.
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« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2007, 09:47:25 AM »

 you did, why do you think I used it.
   ;D

I totally get why you wouldn't want weight added to the gluteal region.

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« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2007, 09:53:43 AM »
I totally get why you wouldn't want weight added to the gluteal region.

because I have a FAT ASS!!

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« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2007, 02:23:53 PM »
Div,

Your post made me wonder: To what extent would you guess internet personalities are taken seriously off-line as 'real' people?

I found the observations about people demanding to be taken seriously and fear of being 'pounded' funny yet thought provoking. In ~flower's~ defense, most women are very sensitive about their body size so it's perfectly understandable why she would be resistant to the idea of having more weight added. :)

Jake,

I call it how I see it as with everything in life.

Some people don't want to hear it, but that doesn't change my opinion.

To your question, I suppose it really depends on what people we are talking about.

I would tend to believe that anyone with common sense would only believe what they see or know to be true of someone, not taking typed words on a screen as gospel.

I've spoken with you several times over the phone and I've even vacationed with Junaid, so I know both of you are very legit sentient beings.

Outside of that, anyone could be anything.

I do know that this "Linda" character who spams the Girl Talk forum seems less and less genuine each passing post, though.

I also wonder about "Al-Gebra".



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« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2007, 02:27:38 PM »
I've even vacationed with Junaid



Where's the pics from that?    >:(

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« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2007, 03:57:45 PM »


Personal training is both.



DIV

It can also be a liability....same as the Dr/Patient, Student/Teacher relationship