The Trainer/Client relationship........ad nauseum.

[drkaje]

Jake,

I call it how I see it as with everything in life.

Some people don't want to hear it, but that doesn't change my opinion.

To your question, I suppose it really depends on what people we are talking about.

I would tend to believe that anyone with common sense would only believe what they see or know to be true of someone, not taking typed words on a screen as gospel.

I've spoken with you several times over the phone and I've even vacationed with Junaid, so I know both of you are very legit sentient beings.

Outside of that, anyone could be anything.

I do know that this "Linda" character who spams the Girl Talk forum seems less and less genuine each passing post, though.

I also wonder about "Al-Gebra".



DIV

Div,

Just found your observation interesting and only a few people put it that way. A lot of people demand to be taken seriously on-line. It's only natural to wonder how much of their 'real' personality leaks out in posts. A very controlling guy, for example, is probably dominated by his spouse. A guy who keeps everyone late at work or makes a lot of wrong turns in the car is usually avoiding home.

Some argue that on-line personnas are often an attempt to reconcile off-line issues. I'm curious... to what extent you feel the need to be taken seriously/respected/adored/controlling on-line reflects being ignored/dissed/unloved/controlled off-line?

And, do you feel many people lack a 'voice' off-line? Specifically meaning a method of resolving conflicts with ego intact. Not so much beingin situations where they can't speak up for themselves.

Not sure what the theory would say about IMPD.  

[knny187]

Div,

Just found your observation interesting and only a few people put it that way. A lot of people demand to be taken seriously on-line. It's only natural to wonder how much of their 'real' personality leaks out in posts. A very controlling guy, for example, is probably dominated by his spouse. A guy who keeps everyone late at work or makes a lot of wrong turns in the car is usually avoiding home.

Some argue that on-line personnas are often an attempt to reconcile off-line issues. I'm curious... to what extent you feel the need to be taken seriously/respected/adored/controlling on-line reflects being ignored/dissed/unloved/controlled off-line?

And, do you feel many people lack a 'voice' off-line? Specifically meaning a method of resolving conflicts with ego intact. Not so much beingin situations where they can't speak up for themselves.

Not sure what the theory would say about IMPD.  

I personally have talked to DIV on the phone...& he's a little different how he comes across than on the net...just as I do.
Most of the time..I am completely opposite in person/on the phone than I am on-line.

[Geo]

who is'nt ?

[w8m8]

I only reveal my analysis to clients who inquire, but over months of training someone three times per week or more, you build a rapport.

I'm a confidant of sorts for some, perhaps a conquest for others....

Regardless, my focus is on their training and getting them results, but like anything, there is a time to be serious and a time to have fun.

Personal training is both.



DIV

I'd appreciate a trainer who took some time to know me.
What drives me and what affects me.
I think it could have potential to help with motivation and focus along with the fact I would feel my trainer had an interest in me and my goals not my money or his next clients appointment.
The "personal" touch is maybe a little more appreciated by women or at least that's
JMHO

[knny187]

I'd appreciate a trainer who took some time to know me.
What drives me and what affects me.
I think it could have potential to help with motivation and focus along with the fact I would feel my trainer had an interest in me and my goals not my money or his next clients appointment.
The "personal" touch is maybe a little more appreciated by women or at least that's
JMHO

How about a trainer that would like to know EDIT you intimately?

[w8m8]

I'm not the type to get my panties in a bunch when off color remarks are made

I'd have no problem answering

answering him doesn't mean he's getting any it just means I have no issue when asked those things


I think the environment alone allows a wider latitude of acceptance as far as the type of things that are topics of conversation

self-esteem , self-respect , and an open mind can be condusive to a broader range of personalities getting along

he may not want to ask my mate if I'm pale but I wouldn't stop him from trying

I think finesse should be used unless and until the trainer knows the client

hence the term "personal" trainer

[knny187]

then you'll have no problem

[DIVISION]

Where's the pics from that?   

I had some issues with my apartment and was in another one for about a month until recently, so getting the pics developed wasn't exactly a priority.

They'll be done soon......

It can also be a liability....same as the Dr/Patient, Student/Teacher relationship

I'm smart enough to know the balance, Kenneth.

Nothing is compromised and I'm not having sex with them.

Some argue that on-line personnas are often an attempt to reconcile off-line issues. I'm curious... to what extent you feel the need to be taken seriously/respected/adored/controlling on-line reflects being ignored/dissed/unloved/controlled off-line?

And, do you feel many people lack a 'voice' off-line? Specifically meaning a method of resolving conflicts with ego intact. Not so much beingin situations where they can't speak up for themselves.

As I said before, Jake, people who don't self monitor their behaviour and the subconcious drives behind it usually seek out other avenues of manifestation.  The persona someone projects online in many ways may not be the true self as perceived by others in the real world and the inability for those to reconcile the offline vs. online persona probably leads to the need for an alter-ego.

I personally have talked to DIV on the phone...& he's a little different how he comes across than on the net...just as I do.
Most of the time..I am completely opposite in person/on the phone than I am on-line.

I'm only different because of the times and situations when you've talked to me.  A few glasses of wine and a steak and I'd probably be more of what you'd envisioned.  Catch me before I'm going to work and I'm a bit more straight and serious.

I'd appreciate a trainer who took some time to know me.
What drives me and what affects me.
I think it could have potential to help with motivation and focus along with the fact I would feel my trainer had an interest in me and my goals not my money or his next clients appointment.
The "personal" touch is maybe a little more appreciated by women or at least that's

The personal touch is appreciated by everyone in my experience.  The point is letting a client feel comfortable as to make them receptive to the training.  You'll get more results that way with women especially, as opposed to men. 

I'm not the type to get my panties in a bunch when off color remarks are made

I'd have no problem answering

answering him doesn't mean he's getting any it just means I have no issue when asked those things

I think the environment alone allows a wider latitude of acceptance as far as the type of things that are topics of conversation

self-esteem , self-respect , and an open mind can be condusive to a broader range of personalities getting along

he may not want to ask my mate if I'm pale but I wouldn't stop him from trying

I think finesse should be used unless and until the trainer knows the client

hence the term "personal" trainer

Once I've trained someone for months, you'd be surprised (or maybe not) at what type of things come up in conversation.

The term "personal" can be pretty deep.....

I don't usually like to train the type of women I'm attracted to (pale) because it's too distracting.

I'd rather train tan blondes with blue eyes because I'd never even think of sex while training them.


DIV

[drkaje]

Div,

Your answer is about what I expected.

What do you think of the IMPD people?

[Deedee]

We want to know what women 'think'.

If you did, you would say it without ""   

[drkaje]

If you did, you would say it without ""   

You shouldn't be such a cynic.

[DIVISION]

Div,

Your answer is about what I expected.

What do you think of the IMPD people?

It's obvious that IMPD is a variation of borderline personality disorder with the more serious cases falling under disassociative identity disorder.

It really depends on the motives and level of obsession the person has with the character they project and to what degree they feel the "need" to convince others.


DIV

[w8m8]

It really depends on the motives and level of obsession the person has with the character they project and to what degree they feel the "need" to convince others.


DIV

Do you also take into consideration how many gimmicks they have ?

I'd think that'd be part of the diagnosis 

Can they be thought of as cross posters if they have gimmicks under both sexes ?

curious that's all  I'm a reformed lurker not a gimmick

[drkaje]

Do you also take into consideration how many gimmicks they have ?

I'd think that'd be part of the diagnosis 

Can they be thought of as cross posters if they have gimmicks under both sexes ?

curious that's all  I'm a reformed lurker not a gimmick

I have a hard time believing multiple gimmicks isn't a sign of mental disease.

[w8m8]

my thoughts as well

don't understand the whole idea of not really being authentic either

sort of ties in with another thread > "Do you worry about what others think of you"

[DIVISION]

Do you also take into consideration how many gimmicks they have ?

I'd think that'd be part of the diagnosis 

Can they be thought of as cross posters if they have gimmicks under both sexes ?

curious that's all  I'm a reformed lurker not a gimmick

Once a lurker, always a lurker, IMO.

People who lurk tend not to speak and that in itself makes me wonder.

Gimmicks are only the manifestation of an alternate identity, one that obviously is percieved to be different enough that a different handle is needed.

That speaks to DID.



DIV