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Re: insane JOJ training pics !!!
« Reply #50 on: August 17, 2007, 08:16:19 AM »
Looking at the first pic he's on a lot of something, not sure what exactly but very bloated, yet not watery. Strange...

it's the insane pump via a milos prescription of well timed insulin, gh, anabolics, well timed carbs and giant sets (yeah i know - 'einstein', but it really is a combination of all these things at the right timing).

we've seen this before with luke and co.

when he dries out we'll be able to decifer what he's going to bring with him. until then, smoke and mirrors my friend. ;)

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« Reply #51 on: August 17, 2007, 08:48:06 AM »
WHAT IS THE POINT OF BRINGING MORE OF THE EMPTY BLOOD to the muscle?


Empty blood? Is this like a new outcome of evolution that the world doesn't know about?

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« Reply #52 on: August 17, 2007, 09:05:02 AM »
Empty blood? Is this like a new outcome of evolution that the world doesn't know about?

lol

milos seems to think that if you don't consume food during a workout or immediately before that there will be no nutrients in your blood. ;D apparently guys like ronnie coleman and dorian yates have been doing it wrong all these years. ::)

i guess i could have just skipped human biology entirely because that's a new one to me too.

i wonder if milos ever read about the digestive system and how long the assimilation process takes or that this must actually take place BEFORE nutrients enter the blood stream, with all those books he apparently reads?

what milos is referring to is simply blood sugar levels, which obviously must be kept high pre, during and post insulin injections.


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Re: insane JOJ training pics !!!
« Reply #53 on: August 17, 2007, 10:57:43 AM »
JJ was Serious untapped potential, he looks great. it will be crazy to see how far he can go.

He can go...ALL THE WAY... ;) - Olympia (Sandow) touchdown!

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« Reply #54 on: August 17, 2007, 10:58:17 AM »
Hey MIlos do I get some free training sessions for being a getbigger? I want to see how you train, maybe I can enlighten most of the guys here.

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« Reply #55 on: August 17, 2007, 10:59:39 AM »
He can go...ALL THE WAY... ;) - Olympia (Sandow) touchdown!

I think JJ has the best upper body development of all the current pros....if he can get his legs up (especially is calves) he may be a serious contender

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« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2007, 01:20:13 AM »
I think JJ has the best upper body development of all the current pros....if he can get his legs up (especially is calves) he may be a serious contender

pretty bold statement...I think he would need to get his lat width up before he gets that title

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« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2007, 01:52:44 AM »
lol

milos seems to think that if you don't consume food during a workout or immediately before that there will be no nutrients in your blood. ;D apparently guys like ronnie coleman and dorian yates have been doing it wrong all these years. ::)

i guess i could have just skipped human biology entirely because that's a new one to me too.

i wonder if milos ever read about the digestive system and how long the assimilation process takes or that this must actually take place BEFORE nutrients enter the blood stream, with all those books he apparently reads?

what milos is referring to is simply blood sugar levels, which obviously must be kept high pre, during and post insulin injections.

Are you saying you'd rather pay Milos for arm workout tips, Beast8692?

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« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2007, 09:01:19 AM »
Empty blood? Is this like a new outcome of evolution that the world doesn't know about?

Rather - world doesn't THINK about it...yet.

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« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2007, 09:03:31 AM »
Rather - world doesn't THINK about it...yet.

Just like the great MIKE MENTZER'S THEORY OF H.I.T : THE ONLY TRUE METHOD.
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« Reply #60 on: August 18, 2007, 09:04:54 AM »
lol

milos seems to think that if you don't consume food during a workout or immediately before that there will be no nutrients in your blood. ;D apparently guys like ronnie coleman and dorian yates have been doing it wrong all these years. ::)

i guess i could have just skipped human biology entirely because that's a new one to me too.

i wonder if milos ever read about the digestive system and how long the assimilation process takes or that this must actually take place BEFORE nutrients enter the blood stream, with all those books he apparently reads?

what milos is referring to is simply blood sugar levels, which obviously must be kept high pre, during and post insulin injections.



 ::) ::) ::)

Understand what SATURATION means?

It is distinctive difference of having some or having THE MAXIMAL AMOUNT of muscle building nutrients and hormones in the blood when that same blood is where...oh - in the muscle...WHICH IS ONLY POSSIBLE DURING THE TRAINING!

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« Reply #61 on: August 18, 2007, 09:06:06 AM »
::) ::) ::)

Understand what SATURATION means?

It is distinctive difference of having some or having THE MAXIMAL AMOUNT of muscle building nutrients and hormones in the blood when that same blood is where...oh - in the muscle...WHICH IS ONLY POSSIBLE DURING THE TRAINING!

u still never said ur response to mike mentzer's h.i.t literature and whether u read it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #62 on: August 18, 2007, 09:09:38 AM »
JoJ wont be Mr Olympia he to damn short last short Olympia winner was Samir at 5'7" those days are long over  , Haney 5'11" Yates 5'10" Coleman 5'11" and Cutler almost 5'9" , Victor is in line next !

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« Reply #63 on: August 18, 2007, 09:27:50 AM »
Rather - world doesn't THINK about it...yet.

Probably for the good / valid reason that there is no such thing ;D

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« Reply #64 on: August 18, 2007, 09:56:36 AM »
::) ::) ::)

Understand what SATURATION means?

It is distinctive difference of having some or having THE MAXIMAL AMOUNT of muscle building nutrients and hormones in the blood when that same blood is where...oh - in the muscle...WHICH IS ONLY POSSIBLE DURING THE TRAINING!

Listen mate.

What evidence, if any, do you have that more than 6-10 grams of EAA's have any beneficial effect, pre and post workout?

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« Reply #65 on: August 18, 2007, 09:59:31 AM »
Listen mate.

What evidence, if any, do you have that more than 6-10 grams of EAA's have any beneficial effect, pre and post workout?



Milos doesnt need evidence....he has this:
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« Reply #66 on: August 18, 2007, 10:08:56 AM »
::) ::) ::)

Understand what SATURATION means?

It is distinctive difference of having some or having THE MAXIMAL AMOUNT of muscle building nutrients and hormones in the blood when that same blood is where...oh - in the muscle...WHICH IS ONLY POSSIBLE DURING THE TRAINING!

Seriously speaking, I'd like to see some backup for this cause this is just pure BS, Milos. Your body supplies blood to every organ and tissue all the time, to clear waste products as well as supplying needed nutrients. Your saying that blood will be saturated with nutrients during training is nothing more than an assertion.

There are plenty of other instances. To give you an example, if you injure some part of your body like say a muscle, the tissue becomes inflamed which happens so the blood flow to the area is increased. In such a case too, the blood will be 'saturated' with nutrients.

Besides I don't see what the big deal is in starving a muscle at least during training, so you 'stress' your body that way for that long a time. It's like taking a supplement to suppress Cortisol secretion - it does more bad than good overall.

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« Reply #67 on: August 18, 2007, 11:08:41 AM »
Seriously speaking, I'd like to see some backup for this cause this is just pure BS, Milos. Your body supplies blood to every organ and tissue all the time, to clear waste products as well as supplying needed nutrients. Your saying that blood will be saturated with nutrients during training is nothing more than an assertion.

There are plenty of other instances. To give you an example, if you injure some part of your body like say a muscle, the tissue becomes inflamed which happens so the blood flow to the area is increased. In such a case too, the blood will be 'saturated' with nutrients.

Besides I don't see what the big deal is in starving a muscle at least during training, so you 'stress' your body that way for that long a time. It's like taking a supplement to suppress Cortisol secretion - it does more bad than good overall.

he won't provide proof. already been down that road. offered him $1000- u.s paypal to prove just one of his ridiculous claims and he didn't post on getbig for a month.

what milos does is use insulin, carbs and anabolics combined with giant sets to produce insanely pumped muscles in his pro bbers. that's it. looks freaky on a website but how many pro bbers has he steered anywhere near the olympia title ???

anyone doing these workouts without the drugs might aswell do pushups because they aint getting anywhere near those kind of pumps, take as much protein and sugar as you want, all you're getting is fat with a stomach cramp.

even with all the drugs in the world, the best way to build real muscle that is still there when you're shredded is hard HEAVY straight sets for the majority of year round training. if pink dumbells for mega sets was what's required, why would ronnie be tearing up his body with heavy weights.

yates understood that.

ronnie understands that

milos never did (he also didn't get within sniffing distance of the mr o title).

btw milos, congratulations on enticing joj to your camp. of course everyone knows how joj actually built his physique and that it was already done before you got to him. ;)

careful you don't use him too much in your self promotion propoganda. wouldn't want another silvio. :-[

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Re: insane JOJ training pics !!!
« Reply #68 on: August 18, 2007, 11:28:39 AM »
He can go...ALL THE WAY... ;) - Olympia (Sandow) touchdown!
Milos ,,you should give  Vince  a  call , ask about his new book ,Hope this help :)                                                  Coming Soon ” Goodrum’s Guide to Great Calves”

The most common problem that bodybuilders have developing is their calves My new e-book, “Goodrum’s Guide to Great Calves” will be available for at no charge. This book will outline the training methods I used to develop my trademark calves and will be a valuable asset to anyone who has struggled for years to develop them.

This book will be available in Mid-November. No pre-order is nessesary and will be available in our online store.


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Re: insane JOJ training pics !!!
« Reply #69 on: August 18, 2007, 11:37:40 AM »
Pros calf?? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o




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« Reply #70 on: August 18, 2007, 11:39:25 AM »
Milos ,,you should give  Vince  a  call , ask about his new book ,Hope this help :)                                                  Coming Soon ” Goodrum’s Guide to Great Calves”

The most common problem that bodybuilders have developing is their calves My new e-book, “Goodrum’s Guide to Great Calves” will be available for at no charge. This book will outline the training methods I used to develop my trademark calves and will be a valuable asset to anyone who has struggled for years to develop them.

This book will be available in Mid-November. No pre-order is nessesary and will be available in our online store.



milos should recruit vince for the task of turning joj's calves into cows.

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Re: insane JOJ training pics !!!
« Reply #71 on: August 18, 2007, 12:33:49 PM »
he won't provide proof. already been down that road. offered him $1000- u.s paypal to prove just one of his ridiculous claims and he didn't post on getbig for a month.

what milos does is use insulin, carbs and anabolics combined with giant sets to produce insanely pumped muscles in his pro bbers. that's it. looks freaky on a website but how many pro bbers has he steered anywhere near the olympia title ???

anyone doing these workouts without the drugs might aswell do pushups because they aint getting anywhere near those kind of pumps, take as much protein and sugar as you want, all you're getting is fat with a stomach cramp.

even with all the drugs in the world, the best way to build real muscle that is still there when you're shredded is hard HEAVY straight sets for the majority of year round training. if pink dumbells for mega sets was what's required, why would ronnie be tearing up his body with heavy weights.

yates understood that.

ronnie understands that

milos never did (he also didn't get within sniffing distance of the mr o title).

btw milos, congratulations on enticing joj to your camp. of course everyone knows how joj actually built his physique and that it was already done before you got to him. ;)

careful you don't use him too much in your self promotion propoganda. wouldn't want another silvio. :-[

Aside from the slightly personal attacks, this post is great, brings up some excellent points:

*Where are the facts to support the claims?

Eg, show me one study or credible source that supports the claim that the "high grade" amino acids used in the Sarcev drink is better than regular amino acids bought through bodybuilding.com.
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« Reply #72 on: August 18, 2007, 12:47:09 PM »
Aside from the slightly personal attacks, this post is great, brings up some excellent points:

*Where are the facts to support the claims?

Eg, show me one study or credible source that supports the claim that the "high grade" amino acids used in the Sarcev drink is better than regular amino acids bought through bodybuilding.com.

amino acids are basically pre-digested protein.

a healthy human body will do a far better job of digesting protein and assimilating aminos acids than any laboratory could possibly do and, yes, the body still has to digest those amino acids. they are not going 'straight to the muscles'. that statement right there shows that milos is either very stupid or he is lying his ass off.




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Re: insane JOJ training pics !!!
« Reply #73 on: August 18, 2007, 12:51:21 PM »
amino acids are basically pre-digested protein.

a healthy human body will do a far better job of digesting protein and assimilating aminos acids than any laboratory could possibly do and, yes, the body still has to digest those amino acids. they are not going 'straight to the muscles'. that statement right there shows that milos is either very stupid or he is lying his ass off.




But the question is what you call "straight". I think Milos "the Mad man" Sarcev dont mean it literaly "straight".So to speak ,its a emphasis.
I think he means "Almost".

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« Reply #74 on: August 18, 2007, 12:57:32 PM »
But the question is what you call "straight". I think Milos "the Mad man" Sarcev dont mean it literaly "straight".So to speak ,its a emphasis.
I think he means "Almost".

does he? interesting.

a guy that struggles with the english language is milos' interpreter now. ::)