Author Topic: 85s shoulder presses (Read 17570 times)

Option D · « **Reply #150 on:** August 27, 2007, 09:54:56 AM »

Quote from: chris_mason on August 23, 2007, 05:29:09 PM

Anyway...

85s are pretty decent for dumbbell presses assuming it is a full ROM movement.

just the man i wanted to hear from. I do full range like where my elbows go below parallel (to the floor) and i was told that that hurts your delts more than helps

Ursus · « **Reply #151 on:** August 27, 2007, 10:06:40 AM »

i have always done it and been grand.

horses for courses though.

nearing 20 reps. once i get that ill aim for 90lbs for sets of 8-10

Man of Steel · « **Reply #152 on:** August 27, 2007, 10:15:02 AM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on August 24, 2007, 07:22:29 AM

i've pulled 545 for a very hard single at my best.

That's damn good weight!!

Man of Steel · « **Reply #153 on:** August 27, 2007, 10:20:14 AM »

Quote from: Xerxes on August 27, 2007, 10:17:49 AM

I belive you squad. But the amout of food is more important.

Make no mistake, Sarcasm is a big, strong fuggin dude and he's no fool.....he's likes to eat, but knows when enough is enough, but he's not gonna eat like some 23 yr old bb nut that has Muscletech products all over his dormroom LOL!!!

Option D · « **Reply #154 on:** August 27, 2007, 10:20:56 AM »

Quote from: Man of Steel on August 27, 2007, 10:15:02 AM

That's damn good weight!!

i got 5 plates up about an inch and a half once

Man of Steel · « **Reply #155 on:** August 27, 2007, 10:22:16 AM »

Quote from: Goudy on August 27, 2007, 10:06:40 AM

i have always done it and been grand.

horses for courses though.

nearing 20 reps. once i get that ill aim for 90lbs for sets of 8-10

Goudy, I'm tellin you right now, if you're gettin 20 reps on 85s you could slam up 110s (or a bit more) for a few good quality reps no problem. Wrap your wrists and give it a roll with a good spotter some time.

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #156 on:** August 27, 2007, 10:24:19 AM »

I call bullshit on about 80% of the posts here.

90's for 20 my ass

Man of Steel · « **Reply #157 on:** August 27, 2007, 10:26:20 AM »

Quote from: big_mal on August 27, 2007, 10:20:56 AM

i got 5 plates up about an inch and a half once

AHAAHAH!! Don't sweat it bro, deads are no joke.....I quite those fuggin things a long time ago!

Option D · « **Reply #158 on:** August 27, 2007, 10:26:55 AM »

Quote from: Groink on August 27, 2007, 10:24:19 AM

I call bullshit on about 80% of the posts here.

90's for 20 my ass

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yeah these fools lyin...im gonna do the 95s for 12 today at the gym

Man of Steel · « **Reply #159 on:** August 27, 2007, 10:27:43 AM »

Quote from: Groink on August 27, 2007, 10:24:19 AM

I call bullshit on about 80% of the posts here.

90's for 20 my ass

AHAHAHA!!! I didn't wanna say shit, but exactly!!

Option D · « **Reply #160 on:** August 27, 2007, 10:31:18 AM »

Quote from: Man of Steel on August 27, 2007, 10:26:20 AM

AHAAHAH!! Don't sweat it bro, deads are no joke.....I quite those fuggin things a long time ago!

hahahaha

i wasnt even shittin...I saw one dude in the gym do it and he wasnt like overly huge. And im usually pretty stronger than i look. Well he got like 7 reps of 5 plates (495) well i was like "sheeeeeeeeit i can do a couple" man i got over that shit and i tried to pull. Maaaaaaaaan it felt like i was about to pop my God Damn head off. That shit moved about a good inch and i started movin crazy and it just stayed there.

Ursus · « **Reply #161 on:** August 27, 2007, 10:33:29 AM »

who said 90;s for 20?

i never. tho i reckon on a good day i could get 100lbs for a few reps. just a matter of getting used to weight as you say.

i also posted a vid of my 85's how easy they are.

Man of steel. thanks.

also ne time neone has called bullshit i have posted a vid

Man of Steel · « **Reply #162 on:** August 27, 2007, 10:39:34 AM »

Quote from: big_mal on August 27, 2007, 10:31:18 AM

hahahaha

i wasnt even shittin...I saw one dude in the gym do it and he wasnt like overly huge. And im usually pretty stronger than i look. Well he got like 7 reps of 5 plates (495) well i was like "sheeeeeeeeit i can do a couple" man i got over that shit and i tried to pull. Maaaaaaaaan it felt like i was about to pop my God Damn head off. That shit moved about a good inch and i started movin crazy and it just stayed there.

I've done so much stupid shit in gyms across Texas....gotten trapped in a leg press; dropped a db that was too heavy on my face and split my fuggin lip; tripped and fell on a short step in front of 3 hot chicks on elliptical machines; broke a back machine; broke a Smith machine (twice); lost my grip doin shrugs and stumbled backwards; dislocated my knee randomly and was taken out by EMS cause I couldn't get it back in the socket; dislocated my shoulder on heavy db presses and dropped a db on some guys foot; slipped in puddle by a waterfountain and busted my dumbass (that was late night and no one was around, but it still sucked)......I think you get my point.

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #163 on:** August 27, 2007, 10:49:24 AM »

Quote from: Man of Steel on August 27, 2007, 10:39:34 AM

I've done so much stupid shit in gyms across Texas....gotten trapped in a leg press; dropped a db that was too heavy on my face and split my fuggin lip; tripped and fell on a short step in front of 3 hot chicks on elliptical machines; broke a back machine; broke a Smith machine (twice); lost my grip doin shrugs and stumbled backwards; dislocated my knee randomly and was taken out by EMS cause I couldn't get it back in the socket; dislocated my shoulder on heavy db presses and dropped a db on some guys foot; slipped in puddle by a waterfountain and busted my dumbass (that was late night and no one was around, but it still sucked)......I think you get my point.

I'm sure Iv'e posted this before but it apllies here.

Me and my buddy were doing weighted dips between a chair and a bench, using a loaded curling bar for the weight.

After the set my friend put down ONE LEG and his other leg acts as a fulcrum, the weights slide off one side and BLAM!! knocks him the fuck out, opening a nice gash on the side of his head.

It was one of those moments that your'e laughing your ass off and trying to help at the same time.

Man of Steel · « **Reply #164 on:** August 27, 2007, 10:58:33 AM »

Quote from: Groink on August 27, 2007, 10:49:24 AM

I'm sure Iv'e posted this before but it apllies here.

Me and my buddy were doing weighted dips between a chair and a bench, using a loaded curling bar for the weight.

After the set my friend put down ONE LEG and his other leg acts as a fulcrum, the weights slide off one side and BLAM!! knocks him the fuck out, opening a nice gash on the side of his head.

It was one of those moments that your'e laughing your ass off and trying to help at the same time.

AHAAHAH!!! I don't care how much stupid crap I've done in the gym.....I see that and I'd be rollin on the ground.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #165 on:** August 30, 2007, 07:23:28 AM »

Quote from: EL Mariachi on August 23, 2007, 05:03:12 AM

Goudy is talking here about deep press, touching the shoulder, a lot of monsters here claim to push big weights, my quess is you do quarter reps if you press the 120's.

yes they are doing american presses (half and quarter shoulder presses) + goudy has not used steroids...and steroids increase shoulder pressing strengh alot....

The Squadfather · « **Reply #166 on:** August 30, 2007, 07:30:59 AM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on August 30, 2007, 07:23:28 AM

yes they are doing american presses (half and quarter shoulder presses) + goudy has not used steroids...and steroids increase shoulder pressing strengh alot....

hahahaha, yeah because we all know that when you inject a steroid they send a message directly to the deltoid muscles to immedialtely press more weight but the steroids don't send that message to other bodyparts.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #167 on:** August 30, 2007, 07:35:40 AM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on August 30, 2007, 07:30:59 AM

hahahaha, yeah because we all know that when you inject a steroid they send a message directly to the deltoid muscles to immedialtely press more weight but the steroids don't send that message to other bodyparts.

no but its something i have noticed in guys who start using steroids..their shoulders often grow the most (compared to a natural)...shoulders and upper traps often seem to balloon up fast....i think it has something to do with number of receptors in the muscle.

BigCypriate · « **Reply #168 on:** August 30, 2007, 07:44:57 AM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on August 30, 2007, 07:35:40 AM

no but its something i have noticed in guys who start using steroids..their shoulders often grow the most (compared to a natural)...shoulders and upper traps often seem to balloon up fast....i think it has something to do with number of receptors in the muscle.

I think it's more to do with the fact they as soon as they start using, they change their training schedule to benching 5x a week

SS · « **Reply #169 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:00:17 AM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on August 30, 2007, 07:35:40 AM

no but its something i have noticed in guys who start using steroids..their shoulders often grow the most (compared to a natural)...shoulders and upper traps often seem to balloon up fast....i think it has something to do with number of receptors in the muscle.

it's prob cause they aren't too scared to shoulder press when on.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #170 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:03:23 AM »

Quote from: BigCypriate on August 30, 2007, 07:44:57 AM

I think it's more to do with the fact they as soon as they start using, they change their training schedule to benching 5x a week

yes thats one part of it def, but i think that "aas receptor density" is higher in the shoulder and traps area...same with quads...but its not like i got any scientific proof...just an observation i have made.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #171 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:04:41 AM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on August 30, 2007, 08:03:23 AM

yes thats one part of it def, but i think that "aas receptor density" is higher in the shoulder and traps area...same with quads...but its not like i got any scientific proof...just an observation i have made.

Option D · « **Reply #172 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:08:26 AM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on August 30, 2007, 08:03:23 AM

yes thats one part of it def, but i think that "aas receptor density" is higher in the shoulder and traps area...same with quads...but its not like i got any scientific proof...just an observation i have made.

What the hell. Im not sure im buying this one. That shoulders just get hella swole. And damn sure not quads. Because there are many ironage guys with no legs to speak of

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #173 on:** August 30, 2007, 08:10:27 AM »

Quote from: big_mal on August 30, 2007, 08:08:26 AM

What the hell. Im not sure im buying this one. That shoulders just get hella swole. And damn sure not quads. Because there are many ironage guys with no legs to speak of

well you have to work them of course...

Overload · « **Reply #174 on:** August 30, 2007, 09:41:57 AM »

I didn't read the entire thread after Goudy posted his video but the dude is strong as hell for his age and the amount of time he has been training. he is also a lifetime natural. consider his height and how long his arms are, you can tell he could probably press the 100's with good form for a few reps. i know juicers who can barely half rep the 100's and they have been training for a long time.