Discrepancies in different exercise weights?

[Deicide]

I was wondering if anyone else has major differences in their weights between squats, bench and deadlifts? I have been lifting for about 4 and a half years and started when I was 25, will be 30 soon, am natural and have made good progress, putting on decent mass (got to drop the fat though) but although I think my deadlifts and squats are decent, my bench just has always been lagging behind;

Deadlift 150 kg x6
Squat 140 kg x6
Bench 90 kg x6

Shouldn't the bench be more like 110 kg or something?

Anyone else ever have this problem?

[slaveboy1980]

I was wondering if anyone else has major differences in their weights between squats, bench and deadlifts? I have been lifting for about 4 and a half years and started when I was 25, will be 30 soon, am natural and have made good progress, putting on decent mass (got to drop the fat though) but although I think my deadlifts and squats are decent, my bench just has always been lagging behind;

Deadlift 150 kg x6
Squat 140 kg x6
Bench 90 kg x6

Shouldn't the bench be more like 110 kg or something?

Anyone else ever have this problem?

shouldn't? if you lift 90kg thats what you lift and you try to improve. not more complicated than that.

also how deep are those squats?..most people have a bigger weight difference between deads and squats..

[Deicide]

shouldn't? if you lift 90kg thats what you lift and you try to improve. not more complicated than that.

also how deep are those squats?..most people have a bigger weight difference between deads and squats..

Generally my attitude as well; I used to be embarassed about my bench but whatever; it is the way it is...

Not ass to the ground; standard depth I'd say....maybe I'm just weird...

[slaveboy1980]

Generally my attitude as well; I used to be embarassed about my bench but whatever; it is the way it is...

Not ass to the ground; standard depth I'd say....maybe I'm just weird...

try to use other exercises for a while...start with incline db press or something...and dont do benchpress for a while ..

[triple_pickle]

these are shitty numbers for 4.5 years of training, in any case, don't be afraid to go heavier on the bench press, for example,

do 3-4 warmup sets, 6-8 reps
hit your 90 kgs for 6
do 3-4 more sets with 100 kgs, 2-4 reps with a spotter
3 sets of heavy flyes

two-three days later follow with heavy triceps work, focus on close grip benches

2-3 warmup sets
1 set, 6 reps, add more weight
1 set, 4 reps, add more weight
1 set, 2-3 reps
3-4 sets of dips, 6-8 reps

[Deicide]

these are shitty numbers for 4.5 years of training, in any case, don't be afraid to go heavier on the bench press, for example,

do 3-4 warmup sets, 6-8 reps
hit your 90 kgs for 6
do 3-4 more sets with 100 kgs, 2-4 reps with a spotter
3 sets of heavy flyes

two-three days later follow with heavy triceps work, focus on close grip benches

2-3 warmup sets
1 set, 6 reps, add more weight
1 set, 4 reps, add more weight
1 set, 2-3 reps
3-4 sets of dips, 6-8 reps

Shitty for whom? Do you have my genetics? In any event I find my squat and dead lift just fine as a natural, maybe if I had been juicing the whole time they really would be shitty...

[triple_pickle]

Do you have my genetics?

what are your genetics?  average or below? what's your height & weight?

[Deicide]

what are your genetics?  average or below? what's your height & weight?

I would say my genetics are slightly below average. We have no athletes in the family; everyone was cerebral, literature professors, architects; no jocks or anything like that. I am short at 173 cm. At the moment I am at 85 kilos, need to drop about 7 or 8 though because those are fat. I work hard in the gym though I am not obsessed, I get my protein in each day, 2 grams per kilo, etc. Sure I would love to have great genetic potential but I do the best with what I have been given, nothing wrong with that.

[triple_pickle]

fair enough.  in any case, with those squat and deadlift numbers you should be bench pressing around 120-130 kgs for a single.

[Deicide]

fair enough.  in any case, with those squat and deadlift numbers you should be bench pressing around 120-130 kgs for a single.

Should...I'm working at it, just seems to be a weakness of mine...I neglected to mention that I do have relatively good leg genetics, so maybe that is where the weird discrepancies are coming from...

Are you one of the genetically gifted folk out there?

[triple_pickle]

i am average but consistent, 5'11, 220 pounds, 30 years old.  after 2.5 years of working out my stats are bench press 315, deadlift 505, below parallel squat 405, nothing spectacular but also nothing to be ashamed of.

[Deicide]

i am average but consistent, 5'11, 220 pounds, 30 years old.  after 2.5 years of working out my stats are bench press 315, deadlift 505, below parallel squat 405, nothing spectacular but also nothing to be ashamed of.

I guess I should be ashamed....

I find that impressive though, after only 2.5 years of working out you are benching ca. 120 kilos, deadlifting ca. 240 and squatting ca. 190...you're better than Ruhl; he said in his first 3 years he was only benching 70 or so kilos...I don't think you have average genetics or...well you know...

[triple_pickle]

I guess I should be ashamed....

I find that impressive though, after only 2.5 years of working out you are benching ca. 120 143 kilos, deadlifting ca. 240 229 and squatting ca. 190 184 ...you're better than Ruhl; he said in his first 3 years he was only benching 70 or so kilos...I don't think you have average genetics or...well you know...

i started working out while in high school but quit my second year in college so when i resumed lifting 2.5 years ago i was not completely new to the subject.  i never touched juice, consistency is the key.

[Deicide]

i started working out while in high school but quit my second year in college so when i resumed lifting 2.5 years ago i was not completely new to the subject.  i never touched juice, consistency is the key.

Would that be for one rep?

[triple_pickle]

of course

[Princess L]

these are shitty numbers for 4.5 years of training

With the information provided, there is no way to make that determination.

[Deicide]

With the information provided, there is no way to make that determination.

What other info do you need?

[triple_pickle]

With the information provided, there is no way to make that determination.

with due respect princess, benching 200 lbs for 6 after 4.5 years of training is shitty unless you are [1] a girl and/or [2] have some physical condition that limits your benching abilities.  trapezkerl's post indicated neither.

[powerpack]

As least the guy is being honest and is not a phantom 500lb bench presser like so many others.
I don't have a spotter so I only go in the 6 to 12 range so I don't know my one rep max on exercises like bench and squats where getting stuck is dangerous.
(I have had to roll a bar down my check moire than once after getting stuck benching   )
But my squats and deads are nearly the same with my bench lagging by about 30%.
I do more or less the same weights as him, I am 40 years old, 5ft7 (1.7m) and weigh 78kgs.
Oh yes my chemical status is legal.

[Deicide]

with due respect princess, benching 200 lbs for 6 after 4.5 years of training is shitty unless you are [1] a girl and/or [2] have some physical condition that limits your benching abilities.

Well I did have to take half a year out of training this year. I try to work hard but I am A) not genetically gifted B) have many other interests (none physical) C) am a book worm with an interest in Body Building...maybe all poor excuses; I don't know...

Ultimately I think it is a waste of time for people to compare and set standards like this, what is shitty and what is not. I am a translator among other things and what if I said, after 4.5 years of studying German you still don't speak with near native ability; that's shitty. For me it would be, but that is me and my language genetics. Blanket statements don't help anyone. Everyone is different. If I spent all my time comparing myself to the people in the gym with better genetics I would get depressed fairly quickly (I know I used to)...though maybe some background information will help; I was a couch potato for 25 years and severely overweight and realised I had to change it and I started lifting (the first year I made lots of mistakes) and found it fun so I kept doing it. So no sports ever until 25, maybe that has something to do with it?

[triple_pickle]

look, it is not that serious.  your question was "is my bench lagging?" and the answer is "yes, it is."  whether you want to do something about it is up to you, i personally never cared much about benching big, never did more than 9 work sets for chest.

[Deicide]

look, it is not that serious.  your question was "is my bench lagging?" and the answer is "yes, it is."  whether you want to do something about it is up to you, i personally never cared much about benching big, never did more than 9 work sets for chest.

I know it's lagging and I will try to take some of the suggestions to heart; after this training cycle I will do dumbbell press for a while...

[Princess L]

with due respect princess, benching 200 lbs for 6 after 4.5 years of training is shitty unless you are [1] a girl and/or [2] have some physical condition that limits your benching abilities.  trapezkerl's post indicated neither.

Maybe so, but initially he really provided nothing to base that opinion on... ie: height, weight, training style, LBM, etc.

Now we know he's basically benching his body weight.  Go from there.  What's the goal?  Look good, chest development, move a lot of weight, growth?what?

[The Squadfather]

hahahaha, how terrible are your genetics when you're a man and 5'7" and 170 pounds.

[Deicide]

hahahaha, how terrible are your genetics when you're a man and 5'7" and 170 pounds.

And then there are those with brain genetics; you don't seem to be one of them...