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If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« on: September 10, 2007, 07:27:38 AM »
than Ronnie Coleman? What do you think?
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2007, 08:15:10 AM »
Sergio had one of the best frames to build on, and responsive genetics taht BBing will ever see.
I think he had what it take to be #1.
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2007, 08:41:56 AM »
Quote from: trab on September 10, 2007, 08:15:10 AM
Sergio had one of the best frames to build on, and responsive genetics taht BBing will ever see.
I think he had what it take to be #1.

Yeah; every muscle on his body was a genetic gift; just crazy, a freak and if had only worked as hard as Arni, he could have won....
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2007, 09:18:56 AM »
If he were a BB today, he'd have the same "amazing" physique that Ronnie has:

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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2007, 09:29:52 AM »
His arms are Cartoon!  ;D Super natural. Its like ya couldn't fit more muscle on the bones.
And not from the stuff todays boys have access to.

That Tiny waist (28-30"?)  is SO uncommon on a guy with that kind of freak thickness.

He belongs in the Smithsonian...  ;D
If ever there were a Guy that's a good reason for genetic cloning - Sergio's it!
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2007, 11:57:44 AM »
Dillet had genetics as good as Sergio IMO, but not many others.

Sergio with today's drugs would be huge with a bigger waist; whether that would look better's debatable. His waist was tiny enough that he could afford to gain inches and still look good.
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2007, 02:36:42 PM »
Quote from: pumpster on September 10, 2007, 11:57:44 AM
Dillet had genetics as good as Sergio IMO, but not many others.

Sergio with today's drugs would be huge with a bigger waist; whether that would look better's debatable. His waist was tiny enough that he could afford to gain inches and still look good.


Good point about "todays" drugs.
 A "Carefull what you ask for"  thing.
Insulin bloat/ Gut is just not becoming IMO.
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2007, 02:42:34 PM »
Quote from: pumpster on September 10, 2007, 11:57:44 AM
Dillet had genetics as good as Sergio IMO, but not many others.



Yes, Dillet was one that could compare genetically to Sergio.
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2007, 05:00:14 PM »
Quote from: Figo on September 10, 2007, 02:42:34 PM
Yes, Dillet was one that could compare genetically to Sergio.

Not those crazy arms though, damn...
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2007, 09:50:36 PM »
Quote from: Trapezkerl on September 10, 2007, 05:00:14 PM
Not those crazy arms though, damn...

I BEG TO DIFFER !!  :o
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2007, 01:49:13 AM »
Quote from: Trapezkerl on September 10, 2007, 05:00:14 PM
Not those crazy arms though, damn...

Yes, Dillet had very underdeveloped arms....
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2007, 06:34:12 AM »
And smooth....
Dillet is a guy who blows up Giant  and fast on AAS.

He looks terribly out of shape off them.

Dont get me wrong, he's impressive and I put his results over all the underwear model BBers, but
Sergio's far superior on my judging sheet..
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2007, 07:36:25 AM »
Quote from: trab on September 11, 2007, 06:34:12 AM
And smooth....
Dillet is a guy who blows up Giant  and fast on AAS.

He looks terribly out of shape off them.

Dont get me wrong, he's impressive and I put his results over all the underwear model BBers, but
Sergio's far superior on my judging sheet..

Guess he stopped competing? huh? Dillet...?
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2007, 08:22:14 AM »
Quote from: Trapezkerl on September 11, 2007, 07:36:25 AM
Guess he stopped competing? huh? Dillet...?

I Dont know, he was talkin about doing a show, He had been contemplating PDI (RIP?) if Im not wrong.

He did some supplent before/ after Pics of him very out of shape to start. Impressive change in
body comp fast. He's got muscle that just eats it up. He is a impressive mass monster when in shape.
But, I'd bet whatever it takes to bring down the BF% is not exactly nice on the guts.
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2007, 02:29:27 PM »
Quote from: Figo on September 11, 2007, 01:49:13 AM
Yes, Dillet had very underdeveloped arms....

Are we looking at the same picture ?!
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2007, 03:38:29 PM »
Sergio and Priest bring/ brought in taht much arm mass a lot less smooth.
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2007, 05:25:02 PM »
These shots are as impressive as any of Sergio's. Sergio had better aesthetics than Paul; Paul didn't have the refinement that more serious training over time would give, that's one difference.

As far as Dillet's drug response and/or look when not training, ya probably so considering he didn't train hard. gh15 as usual with some accurate comments:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=167709.50

The second half of this video Dillet looking as insane as anyone ever has, period.

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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2007, 10:38:30 PM »
Now please don't misunderstand me guys ... I am a VERY BIG FAN of Sergio's physique, however, to say that Paul is NOT comparable to Sergio is just NUTS ! And when I say comparable I'm only talking about Genetics ... hell, they even had the same Bicep insertions !
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2007, 04:37:55 AM »
Quote from: The_Iron_Disciple on September 11, 2007, 02:29:27 PM
Are we looking at the same picture ?!

Dillet had phenomenal arms, I was being sarcastic ;).

He could have been the Sergio of his day, had he relied on hard-work, instead of drugs and genes. Much like Flex and others, too much potential, no fulfillment.
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2007, 06:40:52 AM »
Quote from: Figo on September 12, 2007, 04:37:55 AM
Dillet had phenomenal arms, I was being sarcastic ;).

He could have been the Sergio of his day, had he relied on hard-work, instead of drugs and genes. Much like Flex and others, too much potential, no fulfillment.

It's funny but this seems to be a rule everywhere all over the world; I have trained in several different countries and I always see the gifted lifters working out less hard than the average ones, eating less attentively, etc. Super genes and super work ethic are a rare combination... :-\
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2007, 11:06:54 AM »
Quote from: Trapezkerl on September 12, 2007, 06:40:52 AM
It's funny but this seems to be a rule everywhere all over the world; I have trained in several different countries and I always see the gifted lifters working out less hard than the average ones, eating less attentively, etc. Super genes and super work ethic are a rare combination... :-\

True, but a lot of guys TRAIN TOO MUCH! A lot can be said for that. Watch Dorian go thru a workout and think about what it really take to stimulate muscle growth. He has his fare share.
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2007, 03:45:51 PM »
Quote from: trab on September 12, 2007, 11:06:54 AM
True, but a lot of guys TRAIN TOO MUCH! A lot can be said for that. Watch Dorian go thru a workout and think about what it really take to stimulate muscle growth. He has his fare share.

I think you and I are on the same wavelenght on how important intensive training is and more importantly how important recovery is...
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2007, 03:56:48 PM »
Quote from: Trapezkerl on September 12, 2007, 03:45:51 PM
I think you and I are on the same wavelenght on how important intensive training is and more importantly how important recovery is...

I wish I'd of been on that wavelength Years ago, and I wish  the  magazines weren't such out right
liars regarding steroids back in the day.

Brief and heavy as possible w/ out injury pay off best.
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2007, 04:27:04 PM »
Agree on brief and heavy, though the definition of that can vary from HIT to moderate sets. Basically comes down to how much work you want to compress into how many sets-just a few or spread it out; the common denominator's efficient use of the sets that are done.

Higher volume can work but it's not as efficient.
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Re: If Sergio Olivia had access to the chemistry of today, would he be even bigger..
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2007, 07:22:29 PM »
Quote from: pumpster on September 12, 2007, 04:27:04 PM
Agree on brief and heavy, though the definition of that can vary from HIT to moderate sets. Basically comes down to how much work you want to compress into how many sets-just a few or spread it out; the common denominator's efficient use of the sets that are done.

Higher volume can work but it's not as efficient.


well he didn't have access to power rod technology...


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