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WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« on: September 11, 2007, 03:00:52 PM »
ok i cant see any good reason AT ALL for why exactly we give so much support to israel. all our relationship with that 'country' does us is HARM.

the NUMBER ONE reason why all the middle east hates us is cause we support Israel so strongly.

alot of the middle east may be barbaric, but why exactly do teh jewbagels get to show up out of the blue and say 'all right this is ours now, get off 'our' land, or we will kill you'. i fully understand the arabs' anger towards them and dont get why we assign them so much legitimacy and say israel 'has a right to exist'

WHY exactly ::) because the west feels guilty about the holocaust thats why ::)

it seems to me like we defend them so fiercly only because the jews have so much political clout and money and influence. there is absolutely NO GOOD REASON for our staunch support of them. all it does is make us millions of enemies who make it their lives goal to kill us.

the only way we are going to get the radical islam monkey off our backs is this: pull all our forces out of iraq and afghanistan(why should we be involved in what they do if all they want to do is kill each other-let them settle things for themselves) and then we should ATTACK ISRAEL and wipe their illigitmate little 'state' off the map. guarenteed there would be no more muslims attacking our country.

the core of ALL out middle east problems, at the very basic level, is not afghanistan, or iraq, or iran even, its ISRAEL

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2007, 03:05:40 PM »
Most powerful PAC in America. They get something like $100 in US aid for every $1 donated.

Why do you think camaign finance reform was killed?

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2007, 03:11:54 PM »
Ron's yamaka has fell off due to his rage at this thread.

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2007, 03:19:35 PM »
remember on the southpark movie when that US diplomat stood up at the conference, looked around, adjusted his tie, and said simply, 'fuck canada'??

thats what we need, a strong, rational president to get up and say 'enough is enough, fuck israel iran do what you want with them'

'THEY'RE NOT A REAL COUNTRY ANYWAY'

hahahhaha

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2007, 04:17:23 PM »
haha still no one can come up with a good reason.

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2007, 04:35:14 PM »
All the important departments of my school:

Accounting

Economics

Philosophy

English

ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE JEWS..  :o

Small, but probably the single most powerful unorganized lobby in America.

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2007, 04:36:04 PM »
haha still no one can come up with a good reason.

Because they're atop the apex, silly.

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2007, 06:05:35 PM »
Ron's yamaka has fell off due to his rage at this thread.

Now that was funny.  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2007, 06:24:28 PM »
JM,

BTW, not supporting Israel automatically makes you an anti-semite. :)

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2007, 04:00:30 AM »
Sorry, saying "fuck Israel" and "Iran, do whatever you want with them" is fucking retarded.

Believe it or not a lot of good technology comes out of Israel. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole creation of Israel is a western invention just to develop military might. The amount of military innovations coming out of Israel is absurd!
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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2007, 05:23:08 AM »
yawn at israel

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2007, 10:28:19 AM »
"Total U.S. aid to Israel is approximately one-third of the American foreign-aid budget, even though Israel comprises just .001 percent of the world's population and already has one of the world's higher per capita incomes."

Lemme put it this way: A lot of jews have A LOT of power and money. Hence they can dictate what the US government should do. The vast majority of jews want a strang nation of Israel. That's why they want money flowing from US to Israel.
You have another powerfull lobby in the USA: the weapon lobby. US sells A LOT of guns to Israel at a cheap price. So basically americans are paying for Israeli weapons. Of course the surrounding countries don't wanna appear weak so they also buy a lot of weapons (mostly from the US).
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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2007, 02:14:51 PM »
intenational aid disgusts me... let them clean up their own shit


of course i live in canada where half of my income pays for poor people to sit around and watch tv all day  :P

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2007, 03:38:02 PM »
"Total U.S. aid to Israel is approximately one-third of the American foreign-aid budget, even though Israel comprises just .001 percent of the world's population and already has one of the world's higher per capita incomes."
exactly its bullshit, we give shitloads of money to a nation not even in need, defend them morally and with military backing, and get absolutely NO BENEFIT but in fact HARM from the relationship.

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2007, 06:30:21 PM »
exactly its bullshit, we give shitloads of money to a nation not even in need, defend them morally and with military backing, and get absolutely NO BENEFIT but in fact HARM from the relationship.


AND THEN you wonder why the arabs hate you

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2007, 06:34:44 PM »
exactly its bullshit, we give shitloads of money to a nation not even in need, defend them morally and with military backing, and get absolutely NO BENEFIT but in fact HARM from the relationship.

AND THEN you wonder why the arabs hate you

Agree with both of you......

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2007, 06:37:30 PM »
you need a good read on zionism, berserker has some good reads but they're pretty much beyond my comprehension  ;D
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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2007, 06:49:39 PM »
Agree with both of you......


beautiful and smart....   :)

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2007, 06:54:10 PM »
Jews do a lot for this country..

Not saying we should give them our shit, but jews are a huge part of NYC(and greater american) and they've certainly done me no harm on a direct level.

Stop bitching, get educated and out into the workforce and try to make a difference. That's all you can do.

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2007, 07:03:22 PM »
Quote from: Camel  Jockey

Stop bitching,[b
get educated [/b] and out into the workforce and try to make a difference. That's all your can do.


get spellcheck    ::) ::) ::)

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2007, 07:10:30 PM »

get spellcheck    ::) ::) ::)

Would still fuck up because I've been drinking some cheapass australian redwine named Black Swan or something.. hahahaha

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2007, 07:12:35 PM »
Would still fuck up because I've been drinking some cheapass australian redwine named Black Swan or something.. hahahaha


get more wine  :)

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2007, 12:50:33 AM »

AND THEN you wonder why the arabs hate you
i dont wonder at all why they hate us

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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2007, 01:22:33 AM »
AND THEN you wonder why the arabs hate you

Yeah the only reason is Israel ::)

you need a good read on zionism, berserker has some good reads but they're pretty much beyond my comprehension  ;D

Oh look, a moslem spouting shite about Zionism ::)

Lot's of intelligence showing in this thread folks!
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Re: WHY do we support ISRAEL????
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2007, 02:57:44 PM »
I believe some of you are vastly underestimating the power that Jews truly have.  I am not one of those that believe wholly in a form of ZOG(Zionist-Occupied-Government), but this particular group of people have their hands in just about every major industry, media enterprise and government bureacracy.  As for Israel having the strongest  lobbying group, this is true, and is one of the strongest reasons we are in Iraq and continue the sabre-rattling towards Iran and Syria.  Sen. Joe Liebermann is a prime example of this(a man who serves the US as his #2), as well as Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff who holds dual Israeli-US citizenships.  However, on the flip-side of things, there are many more Jews as Democrats than Republicans, and almost all of them oppose the current war, people like Dianne FEinstein, Barbara Boxer, Carl Levin, Chucky Schumer, Russ Feingold, and Bernie Sanders.  That right there is just on the political side of things.

In our Entertainment sector, nearly all major media enterprises are owned and controlled by someone Jewish.  Lawrence Tisch of CBS, Michael Eisner of Walt Disney, Inc., Gerald Levin, CEO of Time Warner, Summer Redstone(real name Murray Rothstein) heads up Viacom, and Michael SChulhof heads up Sony Entertainment of America.  The only real big non-Jewish media owner of today is Rupert Murdoch.  However, Mr. Murdoch is a very close friend of former Israeli PM Ariel Sharon. 

Pornography?  Entirely run by Jews.  Entirely.  Al Goldstein, owner of the now-defunct Screw magazine, said it best in his famous quote "The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don’t believe in authoritarianism."  The Godfather of Porn, Reuben Sturman was thought to be the man who WAS the industry.

It is rather obvious(or maybe not)  that many, if not the overwhelming majority, of those outside the political spectrum(and outside the Republicans and Neo-Cons), do not seem to give a damn what happens to Israel.  Instead, if one was not aware of the fearful branding of "anti-semite" to one's name, you would almost think they were working diligently to undermine the values that make up what is Western Civilization.  But why?  Is there a better alternative for these powerful Jewish folks than the very civilization that made them rich in the first place?  Is not the ever-spreadening of Islamic Extremism and rampant anti-semitism enough to make them think about what they do?  Are they that arrogant?

BTW, I do support Israel and its people and believe that the people there deserve to live without the threat of being blown up or attacked by their neighbors and their immigrant residents.  From numerous talks I've had with "Lesser Jews"(a term coined by secularist "True-Blue Jews"), there is a general sense that they are not being truly served by those who represent them and only further endanger the populace there.  IMHO, I always thought Israel should have had its home placed in the northern section of South America, but that was an impossibility.

I always liked discussing this topic, but, unfortunately, at the school I go to, discussions like this are not exactly encouraged.