It was the long digital extensor I believe. I have paperwork around here somewhere, but offhand I don't know where and I am not digging for it now. I also have a link or something somewhere on how distemper vaccine was isolated from joints in dogs. But you know that, you mentioned PA, so isn't that contradicting yourself? There has also been some talk of the distemper vaccine affecting collagen.
I think he could have had a predisposition (his breed, his lineage contributing) to joint/tendon/ligament problems, sure. But I do believe 100% that being overvaccinated facilitated it. He had pano too in the opposite side front leg also, which did not cause him any problems and was found because we xrayed all his legs prior to surgery and it showed on an x-ray. Considering his age, that he was vaccinated so many times in a short period, that the distemper vaccine may affect collagen, I don't think it is a stretch to think that his vaccination history played a BIG role in his tendon tearing.
No, I'm not contradicting myself. There is a tremendous difference between a "joint" and a "tendon" problem. distemper vaccinations have been linked to polyarthropathy---a joint specific problem.
You do know that there is a possible correlation between panosteitis and digital extensor problems don't you? The digital extensor tendons, specifically the long digital extensor is intimately involved with the periosteum (the connective tissue lining of the bone itself). With panosteitis, it occurs in large breeds (Great Danes, laboradors, German Shepards, basset hounds--basically all large breeds over 60 lbs in adult weight) with males having a much higher prevelance --from 70 to 80%.
In this disease the effected area shows increases osteoblastic and fibroblastic activity affecting the endosteum, periosteum, and marrow. There is fibrosis and connective tissue replacement of normal medullary cavity. There can also be the development of a line of new bone growth along the periosteum, thus affecting associated soft tissue structures--including the digitial extensor tendons. Radiographically a fine smooth layer of periosteal new bone may develop, but it blends in and makes the cortex appear thicker. The kicker with this disease is that there is no relationship between the severity of radiographic changes and the clinical lameness and that it is a multi-leg problem. It never occurs on just one leg. Comparison radiographs of the contralateral limbs can be helpful but the bottom line is the disease is a multi-leg problem.
How bout you prove that vaccines are harmless. You can't do that. So how come you dispute anything possibly being attributed to vaccines, yet know they CAN do harm?
Doesn't make any sense to me. [/color]
Flower, quit being stupid. I'm asking you about your dog because I don't know what his full story is. I'm not trying to prove or disprove anysort of an agenda. I'm also giving you my thoughts on his medical condition. You can take it or leave it, I really don't care. Dont' turn this into some stupid pissing contest because I'm daring to challenge your stubborn little mind about vaccinations. You have very, very little real proof that vaccinations have done anything to your dog. You are blaming distemper vaccinations based on conjecture and opinion (tendon vs joint and they MIGHT affect collagen) and ignoring the very real possibility that something else could have caused your dogs problems.
Was he overvaccinated---yes I agree with you that he was. There is no disputing this.
Did it do any harm? I don't think you have enough proof of that as a fact, especially considering breed and what you've presented of his history. From what I've gotten from you you have none of the associated problems with distemper vaccinations and dogs. Blaming the vaccination may not be the correct thing to blame.